Members John81 Posted January 14, 2011 Members Posted January 14, 2011 That would be called separation,would it not? Indeed! Which seems to be why there is the question of whether we will have to change what we call ourselves and if so, what would be a good name or descriptive.
Members trc123 Posted January 14, 2011 Author Members Posted January 14, 2011 That would be called separation,would it not? Yes, and separation would mean not identifying with that group any longer which may best be achieved by changing the man made label associated with it...........
Administrators HappyChristian Posted January 14, 2011 Administrators Posted January 14, 2011 Yes, and separation would mean not identifying with that group any longer which may best be achieved by changing the man made label associated with it........... Exactly...
Members John81 Posted January 14, 2011 Members Posted January 14, 2011 I was looking over the names of many IFB churches and noticed that most I looked at don't call themselves IFB in their church name and most didn't have anything about being IFB on their church sign either. There sure are a lot of Calvary Baptist and Bible Baptist IFB churches out there!
Members JerryNumbers Posted January 14, 2011 Members Posted January 14, 2011 "Jesus' Churches", if we're talking about local New Testament churches, have gone by several names throughout history. Ana-Baptist, Baptist, Independent Baptist, etc. My church goes by the title of Independent Baptist, but under the heading it says "A Bible Believing Church". Many Independent Baptist pastors are not, which would lead me to believe their congregations are not either. Titles are good to clarify things, but when people within that group start to stink it up there's nothing wrong with re-defining things. Yes, Jesus' true churches have gone by several different names, and many of those names was given to them by their enemies, it was not names they put on their self. The name Ana-Baptist is a very good example of that, they were given that name because they would not accept the baptizing of the false churches during their days, and anyone making a profession of faith, and wanting to become members of their churches had to submit to being scriptural baptized. I might add, them not accepting the baptizing of the false churches caused the false churches to hate and persecute them. Plus its quite easy to see where the name Baptist come from. The name Independent and fundamentalist seems to have been a name they put on their self.
Members Brother Rick Posted January 14, 2011 Members Posted January 14, 2011 That's true, Jerry. Here's a good chart on that. LINK
Members mrjeff Posted December 14, 2014 Members Posted December 14, 2014 I truly think a new name is needed, given our culture and how so far it is removed from Biblical truth...and continues to do so. A name such as Baptist deals with history and doctrine, while independent suggests a lack of affiliation with a particular group (in theory at least). But for the label "fundamental," what does this indicate? It begs the question, "What are the 'fundamentals?'" Let me suggest either "Biblicist" or "Foundationalist" which is a term that would indicate a slightly different take on "fundamental." God's Word states: "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?" As we see foundations crumbling all around us, we must work to restore those foundations by bringing people to the bedrock foundation for all that Christians believe: creation. That is how God began His Word, and that foundational issue is key to the rest. When people do not perceive how God is and how He relates to all of His creation, most importantly how He relates to mankind, we can and will be incorrect on everything else in His revelation. Creation is the "Master's Key" that unlocks every "door" of God's perspective on every issue that we face in life. There must needs be a group rise up like unto the men of Issachar in the Old Testament who have "understanding of the times" in which we live, and who are willing to take the necessary steps to make a greater impact upon this culture. If changing to a new name will divert from confusion and bring one to more of a Biblical viewpoint, I am willing. That is the very least we ought to be willing to do.
Members Invicta Posted December 14, 2014 Members Posted December 14, 2014 http://nation.foxnews.com/justice/2011/01/07/westboro-protesters-overwhelmed-100-patriots Maybe we need to become Patriot Baptist Notice the pic was more of the biker types than real Americans. ( I was scooter trash at one time myself) Â Excuse my ignorance, but why would anyone want to picket a funeral?
Members heartstrings Posted December 14, 2014 Members Posted December 14, 2014 I truly think a new name is needed, given our culture and how so far it is removed from Biblical truth...and continues to do so. A name such as Baptist deals with history and doctrine, while independent suggests a lack of affiliation with a particular group (in theory at least). But for the label "fundamental," what does this indicate? It begs the question, "What are the 'fundamentals?'" Let me suggest either "Biblicist" or "Foundationalist" which is a term that would indicate a slightly different take on "fundamental." God's Word states: "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?" As we see foundations crumbling all around us, we must work to restore those foundations by bringing people to the bedrock foundation for all that Christians believe: creation. That is how God began His Word, and that foundational issue is key to the rest. When people do not perceive how God is and how He relates to all of His creation, most importantly how He relates to mankind, we can and will be incorrect on everything else in His revelation. Creation is the "Master's Key" that unlocks every "door" of God's perspective on every issue that we face in life. There must needs be a group rise up like unto the men of Issachar in the Old Testament who have "understanding of the times" in which we live, and who are willing to take the necessary steps to make a greater impact upon this culture. If changing to a new name will divert from confusion and bring one to more of a Biblical viewpoint, I am willing. That is the very least we ought to be willing to do. I like that name; ''foundationalist''. It's very Biblical But even in a day when every ungodly country/western star, and every rotten televangelist calls himself a "Christian" that is no reason not to settle simply for that designation. Because the one simple, common denominator with the power to set the real meaning of the name "Christian" apart from this world is that we love one another. This is the "Spirit" Jesus meant when he met the woman of Samaria at the well when He said "in spirit and in truth". It's essential to be "Berean Christian" and to be foundational or ."fundamental" in our "truth" but there must also be the "spirit" of 1 John chapter 3, to really set apart the "men from the boys" . When "Truth" and "spirit" work together, it's very powerful.  Psalm 133  Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity! 2It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments; 3As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the LORD commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted December 14, 2014 Moderators Posted December 14, 2014 for the sake of the conversaton, most already knowing my position, a term I could go with is "foundational". I had thought about renaming my church "Foundation Baptist Church". Also we could still be IFB. Another might be "Pillar and Ground Baptist", referring to the church being the house of God, the pillar and ground of the truth. "I am a PGB" Â But generally I still don't see a reason to change.
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Moderators Ukulelemike Posted December 15, 2014 Moderators Posted December 15, 2014 Maybe we should do like the World Wildlife Foundation did when they sued the World Wrestling Federation for use of "WWF". Oh wait, we can't, because we're independent.
Moderators Salyan Posted December 15, 2014 Moderators Posted December 15, 2014 Excuse my ignorance, but why would anyone want to picket a funeral? Â Because they're Westboro Baptist - they are a family sect that makes their money off of lawsuits and love to tell the world that God hates them all. Basically they're wackos who give all IFBs a bad name.
Moderators OLD fashioned preacher Posted December 16, 2014 Moderators Posted December 16, 2014 Because they're Westboro Baptist - they are a family sect that makes their money off of lawsuits and love to tell the world that God hates them all. Basically they're wackos who give all IFBs a bad name. Oh joy, just found out Westboro is coming to our town this month to boycott a Charismatic church here. Â Â And just last month I was telling a preacher that it's been a long quiet spell.
Members Miss Daisy Posted December 16, 2014 Members Posted December 16, 2014 they came to my town a few years ago to picket the funeral of a man who died who had been in the military in his YOUTH
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