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  1. We received a call from my wife's younger sister, Pat, that their older sister, Diane, had been found dead in her apartment. She apparently passed away yesterday or late the day before. My niece had been trying to get ahold of her for several hours and hadn't gotten any answer. So, she asked he husband to go and check on her. He found her dead. My sister-in-law was an alcoholic, had type II diabetes, had suffered a stroke, had a pacemaker, and wasn't in good health. She would have been 65 on December 7th. My nieces are torn up as their father, my ex-brother-in-law, passed away on October 27th from a four year battle with cancer. This is the third family member in a month that has passed away. My wife is taking this very hard. We don't believe there will be a funeral, as Diane wished to be cremated. There probably won't be a memorial service. If there is, we will have to make a trip to Pittsburgh, PA. Please, be in prayer for us. Diane wasn't saved as far as we know. Her daughters aren't either. We've witnessed to them several times. Also be praying for my nieces to see their need for the Lord during this time. Thanks in advance. BT
    3 points
  2. My nieces are doing fair. The youngest one is still "touch-and-go" at times. She was pretty close to her mother. The older one is doing very well. Her relationship with her mother was very strained as she always told her mother the truth about her condition...alcohol, refusing to take her meds, and not eating correctly. We had made plans to go up to spread Diane's ashes (and her ex-husbands as well...he died on October 27, just one month before Diane) but, her oldest daughter said they're going to scatter them in June. So, that gives us time to prepare. Vivian and I are going to have to travel 8 hours SE to Union, SC to pick up the remaining sister, and then go 10 hours N to Pittsburgh. So, we were thankful for that. We didn't want to get caught up in Pennsylvania in the snow. Thanks for asking, LuAnne. It's been a hard month losing our ex-BIL, a cousin, and then Vivian's sister.
    3 points
  3. Yes, LuAnne, I had totally forgotten to ask about your D-I-L and the baby! I'm so sorry and hope you'll forgive my lack of concentration. How are they doing? We're still praying here.
    3 points
  4. Yes, although you have to consider the source. TGL cannot seem to post anything that is not controversial. As far as he is concerned, the more controversial the better. Sorry TGL, but I, and I suspect others, are getting a bit tired of this kind of posting.
    3 points
  5. What about the all-church picnics that most churches had back in the "old days?" Because they traveled so far for church - on horses or in buggies - it was better to stay and eat at church so they could have another service...and guess what? They played, too. Tag. Races. Horseshoes. Etc. Nothing wrong with having a bit of playful fun as fellowship. Worship is a serious thing and ought to be taken so. But where is it written in scripture that church members can't enjoy some fun after they've worshipped together?
    3 points
  6. Sorry I hadn't seen this til now... DIL (Sarah) seems to be beyond the sickness hurdle, we are all hoping. She's had a couple of consecutive good weeks (other than a cold). She has found a midwife and has had a couple of good meetings with her. And she/Josh recorded the baby's heartbeat and sent it to me. I cried...such a blessing to hear it! She only has one baby in there, though, which is quite alright. We still don't know boy or girl, but I have a feeling we're gonna find out on Christmas Day (we are having them and her parents over for Dinner that afternoon, so that would be a good time for a gender reveal surprise, eh? ).
    2 points
  7. Please read the following verse And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD. Genesis 18:22 It plainly says that Abraham was standing "before the Lord" too, but I do believe it was on this earth, not Heaven. Again, neither of the two Job narratives say that the "sons of God" or Satan were "in Heaven" as well.
    2 points
  8. He teaches against a certain type of hyper-dispensationalism but he still over divides and wrongly adds to salvation. Anyone who adds man's efforts, works or law keeping, in ANY dispensation to gain eternal salvation is wrongly dividing a work that belongs to God alone. Eternal salvation of the soul by GOD has ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be by Faith in Christ Alone. Though they may not have known the method of salvation (on a Cross) nor received the promise before us (had to wait with Abraham) they always had faith on the object of their salvation which was Christ. Anyone who teaches otherwise is wrong and hyper-dispensational. You can follow him if you want but I stand by my statements. Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
    2 points
  9. Jim_Alaska

    Dr. Gene Kim

    God has placed me where He wants me in a local New Testament Church. Why would I seek any other source of teaching and edification? I believe that God knows what is best for me and I see no reason to second guess Him. Having said that; in all of my forty plus years as a Christian, I can honestly say that I have never felt led of God to listen to, or seek out any other pastor or preacher than my own. As for these other preachers: 1 Corinthians 5:6 (KJV) Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
    2 points
  10. Jim_Alaska

    The Chosen

    There is a lot to be said about being careful about what you expose yourself to. Too much confidence in our own abilities, strengths and knowledge can be a trap. 2 Peter 3:17 (KJV) Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
    2 points
  11. Haven't smoked in over 40 years. Funny you should ask. My DIL asked me that very question last night, right after asking what I thought about drinking wine. From the tone of the conversation, I suspected she wanted something to pounce on So, I told Her I WOULD Not answer the question. She tried to tempt me to answer like 2 or 3 more times but I still refused So she came from another angle and asked had I ever smoked or drank beer. To that I answered "yes". I then turned to my son and asked, have you ever seen your daddy drink or smoke? He answered, "no". Over 40 years on drinking too. I wasn't going to lie about my past, but both she and my son know where I stand on drinking. She only wanted something to argue about. But she said no more about it. Let me say, in conclusion: neither smoking, nor drinking is going to send a Christian to Hell *if he's already truly saved*. But they'll damage your testimony, invoke the chastening from the Lord, and likely send you to Heaven early.
    2 points
  12. The Trinity is three distinct persons in the Godhead. It is not three personalities (like God had multiple personalities), or three different modes of God that He takes on at different times - the Father is not the Son or the Holy Spirit, the Son is not the Father or the Holy Spirit, and the Spirit of God is not the Father or the Son - they are distinct from each other. Each member of the Trinity is separate and distinct, yet one God - that is what the Bible teaches, even if others cannot fathom it or explain it. We need to accept what God says by faith.
    2 points
  13. Seems like a good song, I enjoyed listening to it.
    2 points
  14. I don't care for the term "persons" when describing the trinity. The main reason is because of how it comes across to critics of true Christianity. I remember watching a debate from the late 80s between Jimmy Swaggart and Muslim apologist Ahmad Deedat. It was hard to watch listening to Deedats attacks on the bible because he equated the term 'persons" with polytheism. Also the Jehovah's witnesses are rather skillful at casting doubts when they talk to someone who considered themselves Christian but no almost nothing about the Bible.
    2 points
  15. @Rando, it would be impossible to "define that doctrine." And why is it a "must?" We are human beings with a limited understanding of the trinity. Our finite minds will never, while in the living, human body, be able to adequately understand and explain the trinity. We're not infinite beings, nor are we all knowing. God alone is this. The challenge of Biblical Christianity is to strive to become more like Christ, and to be spreading the gospel. It is not mandatory, nor is it necessary to fully understand the doctrine of the trinity to live the Christian life. It IS, however, a very interesting subject and worthy of investigation.
    2 points
  16. I've been getting a lot of requests from people who run ministry sites for help, or data that will allow them to create their own online Bible on their site. So I decided to make it more readily available. I grabbed the domain https://osBible.org which now redirects to my GitHub repository containing a number of MySQL table downloads as well as a few simple scripts for accessing the data. I'll be adding more scripts as I have time.
    2 points
  17. @BrotherTony I will be putting together a commercial for our church (around Feb) and I was actually looking to hire someone for a voiceover for the 30 second video. If you are interested I'll contact you when ready. Can't pay a lot (not going to retire off it ) but definitely compensate you for your time. I hit like on my own post for @Napsterdad
    2 points
  18. Aren't they all Christians, or referring to Christians. I wouldn't think that anyone should have a problem with the terminology "Christian."
    2 points
  19. I don't care what the Republican Party accepts or doesn't accept. I am not a Republican. Tony has it right when he said, "Republicans and the Democrats are one party...two sides of the same dirty coin". I am independent. I vote for the candidate who holds to or has performed closest to the Bible. If that candidate is not a part of the 2-party system, that doesn't bother me; neither am I. No candidate will ever meet all criteria, but you have to vote for someone, or as I said earlier, you're part of the problem. As to this question, I have been to many countries through my military and civilian careers and, of those, America is still the best.
    2 points
  20. TGL, you seem very good at pointing out the negative aspects of Christian individuals, groups and associations, and even seem rather proud of that as implied in another thread "Thank you Jim, I know that my posts many are not things we would like to talk about, and some are very negative, but somebody have to speak out and share the negative". Identifying the negative is definitely necessary for correction, but aside from just pointing your finger at the problems what are you proactively doing to fix the problems. You say Christian Colleges are not doing their job, and I doubt you'll find any here that will not acknowledge the liberal shift in many of the Christian Universities, but what are you doing about this to make it better? In fact, what are you proactively doing to fix any of the multitudinous negative issues you bring to this forum? Knowing what the failures are is meaningless if you are not making an effort to fix those failures.
    2 points
  21. We should not be concerned about whether or not someone has “conservative” views or “liberal” views. We should be concerned about whether or not they have biblical views.
    2 points
  22. Wow, what a confusing mess this thread discussion has become. The original question appears (to me at least) to be a question about the "calling" and/or "desire" for pastoral ministry (for the responsibility to pastor a flock of believers). Yet quickly the discussion was clouded and confused by a multitude of passages concerning: (1) God's call of lost sinners unto faith in Christ for eternal salvation; (2) God's call upon all believers to be His children with all of the benefits thereof; (3) God's call of all believers to witness/preach the gospel unto the lost world; and (4) God's call of certain individuals to serve in the ministry of apostleship. Now, it appears to me that #1, #2, and #3 of my listing above have no bearing upon the subject of the original question. However, it also appears to me that the phrase "called to preach" allows for a great deal of confusion in relation the original question and #3 of my listing above, because the same phrase "called to preach" could apply for two different contexts of subject. On the one hand, "called to preach" might refer to God's call of all believers TO PREACH the gospel unto the lost world. On the other hand, "called to preach" might refer to God's (supposed) call of certain individual believers to pastor a flock of believers. This is where Biblical confusion becomes possible. When an individual asks for Scripture concerning the call of certain individual believers "to preach" (to pastor a flock of believers), and Scripture concerning the call of all believers "to preach" the gospel unto the lost world is provided -- this is Biblical confusion. ALL believers are indeed called of God "to preach" the gospel unto the lost world, and the Scriptural passages which speak to this matter make such clear. However, NOT all believers are called to pastor a flock of believers; and pressing Scriptural passages from the wrong context upon this matter only confuses the Biblical doctrine of pastoral ministry. Thus I would contend that in discussions such as this thread presents, we should quit using the phrase "called to preach," and should rather use the phrase "called to be an apostle, prophet, evangelist, or pastor/teacher" (using the list from Ephesians 4:11). Now, in relation to this subject, Brother Rando has called for a definition -- What is a "calling"? Generally, a calling can either be an invitation to partake of some experience or an appointment to experience some privilege or to engage in some responsibility. In relation to the specific subject of the divine "call" to pastor a flock of believers, I would contend that this "calling" should be defined as a divine appointment to engage in the responsibility of pastoring. With such a definition before us, I believe that New Testament passages can indeed be provided to support the Biblical existence for such a "calling," as follows: Acts 20:28 -- "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." 1 Corinthians 12:18 -- "But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him." 1 Corinthians 12:28 -- "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues." Ephesians 4:11 -- "And he [Christ] gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers." Now, from these passages it is worthy to note that all three members of the Godhead are specifically referenced as being involved in the "calling"/appointment process. In addition, it is worthy to note that some of the passages reference the "calling"/appointment of apostles, prophets, evangelists, and pastors/teachers in the same context. Thus it would seem that the "calling"/appointment of the New Testament apostles would have at least some bearing on the subject (as per #4 from my lising above). Indeed, I would contend that the matter of divine "calling"/appointment is indeed a Biblically valid doctrine. However, the question might then be raised -- By what means is this "calling"/appointment revealed?
    2 points
  23. If you read the Bible and study where the churches first met, it was in the homes of the believers. They would meet in the homes to study, preach, teach, break bread, to take the Lords Supper, and anything else that would benefit their members. Let's not be blind to what really went on. It was to uplift and undergird the lives of it's members in the Lord. There's nothing whatsoever that should stop this in secular ventures as well. And to be frank, many of these practices have been going on for many years. I am in my 60s, and the "karate" and other martial arts were in the churches at that time. So were carnivals, and trunk or treats/fall festivals. I think many are making "much-ado-about-nothing" where many of these things are involved. Trying to shame, overrun, or force anyone to accept someone else's convictions is abhorrant. Let the Holy Spirit be the one to convict. It isn't beneficial if it's our belief coming out of someone else's mouth and heart.
    2 points
  24. If this is the case, and they're not preaching against certain issues and circumstances that are unbiblical in nature, they shouldn't be in the pulpit. That's between them and their pastors. There are many small, large, and medium churches all over this country that haven't bowed the knee to Baal. I hate to say it, but, I believe you intentionally look at things through a dark lens. We should be able to discern, but, we also should be positive about what the Bible says. Yes, it does say that in the last days the love of many will wax cold...and I believe that is happening right now. I believe there is a falling away from the things of the Lord in all age groups. I also believe that the Lord will keep his word when he said that the gates of Hell wouldn't prevail against the church. Evil has been in existence since the beginning (Garden of Eden), and it will continue until there is a new heaven and a new earth. Yet we are to be putting on the whole armor of God and standing against the wiles of the devil. I am...are you?
    1 point
  25. I'm watching it as a study and for purposes of warning. It is an hugely popular series and there are many people being influenced by it. Many people's only exposure to biblical stories are through the perverted lens of the entertainment industry. I want to be prepared to refute the errors and nonsense and tell them the real stories. It's not just the lost who are being manipulated.
    1 point
  26. Jim_Alaska

    The Chosen

    So, given the inconsistencies, heresy and "made up stuff", why watch it at all?
    1 point
  27. Proverbs says: " It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Even after 6000 years I don't believe mankind has discovered all of God's "concealed things" nor nailed down every truth, else all true Christians could agree on on everything. For instance, experience tells me that you will likely disagree with me on the meaning of the following verse...... "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?" .....because the way it reads to me is, that no angel has ever been a "son of God.
    1 point
  28. Unfortunately, that doesn't surprise me at all. An old preacher used to say something like "rat poison is mostly good wholesome corn"; it's that tiny percentage of poison that kills the rat.
    1 point
  29. Much of what Steven Furtick preaches is problematic. I had several friends ask me to listen to a cluster of sermons they sent me to, and I listened. On the surface, much of what he says SOUNDS plausible and Scriptural, but when you listen more closely and compare scripture with scripture, it's not at all doctrinally sound. His rock and roll lifestyle and promotion of his sons lifestyle of the same is problematic. He seems to want to be as close to the world as he can be but still look "Christian."
    1 point
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  31. It's been years since I've heard this song! I love it! That is it, PastorMatt! We used to have an evangelist that would sing this, as well as a professor at Fellowship Baptist College! )
    1 point
  32. Christian just means 'follower of Jesus Christ' I know someone in the town square here in Christchurch (Cathedral Square) back in the mid 2000s.. would set up a sign saying he was not a christian, but a follower of Yeshua. Doing the thing of making christian to be not the word for a believer.. going back to original terms.. But in this kind of legalism, they would probably call people who designate themselves as christian, as not even saved! Also, they would probably attach a bunch of other doctrine to being a follower of Yeshua and not 'christian' that is not biblical. But anyway.. as most of us would know.. followers of Jesus were given the nickname 'christians' in Acts: Act_11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. I am a follower of Christ.. therefore 'Christian' is all good!
    1 point
  33. Ah, I see. I didn't recognize that. I apologize. I don't watch TGL's reactions as they're often quite confusing.
    1 point
  34. Your voice is always over me. you do have plenty of experience.
    1 point
  35. That’s not strictly true. You did get banned once before, but you came back.
    1 point
  36. Trump's supposedly gonna announce his VEEP pick on the 15th. He's been blasting DeSantis because he knows that DeSantis is actually a real threat to the house of cards Trump has built. While there will never be a perfect man running for POTUS, I do think - at this moment in time - that DeSantis seems like a good choice. As long as Trump doesn't suck all the oxygen out of the room as he did with Cruz.
    1 point
  37. Happy Veteran's Day to you, Napsterdad! My own biological father, brother, three nieces, two nephews, and a cousin or two have served as well. We're so proud of them and thankful for their service to our country and to the Lord. I love this day of honouring our veterans.
    1 point
  38. I believe the elections of November 8, 2022 have proven that Mr. Trump is a liability to the Republican Party. I believe many others are finally seeing this for the first time. The inability of many of the Trump supporters to gain office helped to prove that Mr. Trump isn't helping anything. I believe Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley would be a great POTUS! I'd vote for either one. I still would be hard pressed to vote for Mr. Trump again.
    1 point
  39. I used to be into New Age type beliefs. I'd meditate to be 'one' with things in nature and the supposed 'divine' and to be one with animals. I hesitate to join in with martial arts now, because I'm wary of mysticism being taught through them. If I wasn't sensitive to it, I may never actually notice it in a karate class, but I know the background of most martial arts is mystical. What got me off the New Age stuff was reading Christian apologetics, and being convicted by Jesus to get serious about my faith (I believe i was saved before trying the New Age stuff) There are self defense classes out there that have no spiritual element whatsoever. Just used for discipline and confidence. I could find one of them.
    1 point
  40. "The first apostles"? Were there more apostles than those identified in the Bible? I believe the days of the apostles are over (for over 1900 years); therefore, no one is an apostle today. Was Matthew 28:19-20, Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen, written only to the apostles? Or perhaps only to the apostles and those "readers that are in high places. Hopefully they’ll have convictions and take actions"? Do you have no convictions? It seems apparent that you at least have convictions enough to point out what is wrong with other Christians. Don't you have convictions enough to help them see, and hopefully correct, their errant behavior? Remember that when your one finger is pointing out error in others, the other three fingers are pointing back at you. You may not have a large sphere of influence, but God's sphere is boundless. Edward Kimball ("just one man") shook the world for Christ when he went to buy a pair of shoes (see D.L. Moody).
    1 point
  41. Praying this morning and was prompted to check in on your D-I-L and her baby.
    1 point
  42. Roman emperors were not elected. They gained office either by inheritance or by a military coup, with a small few attaining emperor by Senate approval.
    1 point
  43. You state that they're "Christians" and then ask if they're "lost" for voting for a liberal governor. Of course they're not lost. Misled maybe, but not lost! Why ask such a question? Voting for a person who doesn't support what most Christians do doesn't negate ones salvation. It may show their lack of growth as a Christian...but Christians aren't perfect.
    1 point
  44. People can graduate from Bible colleges and hold unbiblical views. Men can pastor churches and hold unbiblical views. Credentials are pretty meaningless to me. I’m interested in what an individual actually believes.
    1 point
  45. This doesn’t seem like an appropriate post, somehow.
    1 point
  46. Oh, but they are, my friend. The only huge difference is that they are meeting in a localized church building instead of the homes. Yes, there were many disagreements between the apostles and those who worked with them. This is natural in families. And it's natural here as well. Whenever a place has two people or more, there are bound to be some levels of disagreement. It doesn't necessarily equate to bickering or fighting. It's a heathy thing if done correctly Let me ask, Morales, did I mention apostles? I don't see where I did. I mentioned "the believers." This isn't limited to apostles. Hope you're having a blessed day, brother.
    1 point
  47. There are many nits to pick in this subject I guess. It is bordering on the ridiculous. "Bible"" is not in the Bible either, nor is local church, so I guess they just don't exist.
    1 point
  48. God uses who He chooses to complete the task (His will). Abram, Moses, Saul, David, Nebuchadnezzar, examine their lives and you'll find they were imperfect too. James must have demonstrated a characteristic which God decided would fit His purpose. It worked! we have the preserved Word of God for English speaking people.
    1 point
  49. It is pretty obvious to us events are speeding up and most of us know what those events are speeding toward. They are speeding to the Great Event of the Lord Jesus' coming for His bride, praise God!
    1 point
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