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  1. It amazes me how many people think that the government is the one that gives us freedom. Freedom comes from our creator. If anyone feels that we have not lost any freedom, then they themselves are enslaved to the government.
    6 points
  2. Huh? Makes no sense. You always had the freedom to stay in the cottage. To now say you have the freedom to read and write is a lie because you always had that freedom as that was always your choice to be in or out of the cottage. Sounds a lot like what Hitler did to gain control. To now call staying in freedom is a lie because you always had that freedom to travel or stay home. That's the mentality I see in dictator leaderships
    5 points
  3. Spoken like a true dictator
    5 points
  4. The only hostility I see is coming from those who believe they have a moral superiority over those who choose not to get the jab(s). Beginning with the White House (sending out a "strike force," pushing for social media and texting to be tracked for "false" information) and trickling on down to people who choose to close their eyes to the deaths caused BY the vaccines. And I know a WHOLE LOT of Trump haters from both parties who will not get jabbed. Possible sterility. Neurological problems. Heart problems, including inflammation. And more. Yeah, folks should really want to inject things into their bodies that can cause that, right? sigh...Again, the hostility is actually coming from those who are trying to guilt or otherwise pressure people into bowing to the god of big pharma, Bill G, and socialism.
    5 points
  5. Hi My fellow Brothers and sisters in Christ. First I apologize my writing is not so great anymore. After years it has declined as my health. I have Lupus mixed connective tissue disease rumitoid arthritis severe Reynolds phenomenon fibromyalgia and emphysema as well mild heart issue. I'm 39 years old my health problems started at the age of 24. It has been a great impact on my life but by Gods good grace I'm here still writing today Amen! But over the last 6 months or so I have felt bad to worse. So many of the things I was still able to do slowly going away and becoming more difficult. I have 4 children at home 2 girls as well 2 boys and a great wife that stays by my side best she can. We attended grace Baptist Church here in Ohio as often as possible Wednesday nights for a hour service as well sundays from 10 until noon lunch at noon until 1. Then more preaching until 2. Are Church is a small country Church but the members we have are so loving and caring. As well my Pastor definitely Blessed to attend each service my health allows me to in The Lords House for worship and fellowship. I'm fully disabled and have been since my illness started and my wife required stay home by government help me through my hard days. Makes everything really hard on the family but Gods good grace we make it. I'm here again new to internet asking if you all please keep me In your Prayers with my appointments coming up as well my health declining now for doctors wisdom and most of all Gods healing hand to help me get better. Pray for my family The Lord help them as well through all of this. Please pray for a fellow Pastor and brother and sister in Christ they moved from Ohio to Texas after retirement a year ago now she is battling cancer really bad and in late 70.s early 80.s. As well my Aunt Karen in Arizona battling cancer the second time this time much worse as well a Baptist and sister in Christ. And another very loving aunt Hilda Baptist and sister in Christ going through serious health problems. All of us need Prayers from all. Thank you everyone.
    4 points
  6. @jeff_student_of_Jesus.....Strange, I recall a Bible verse that says that only the sick need a physician...SCIENCE! Luke was a physician....SCIENCE! Science is not necessarily bad in and of itself. Medicine (pharmaceuticals) are not necessarily a bad thing. I'm diabetic and have to use insulin. I wouldn't die if I didn't take it, being type II, but it is necessary to regulate m my blood sugar, as are the other two medications for the diabetes. I use an inhaler for my asthma and COPD. Again...medication that is necesary for me to breathe. I believe you're incorrect in your assumptions that people who put their trust in science are wrong. There are some scientific breakthroughs that have been very beneficial to mankind. Maybe you need to be rethinking your premise.
    4 points
  7. The "freedom" to make the best of one's cage is not freedom.
    4 points
  8. One of my nieces in Illinois has had the coronavirus for the past 14 days. She is in the hospital and is receiving injections in her stomach, is on oxygen, and will probably be in the hospital for the next week or so. She has a young son who has been exposed to the virus, as has my sister and her husband since my niece lives with them. We were supposed to go to Illinois to meet a brother whom we just discovered last year, but, it looks like we won't be going there, instead going to Indiana to see my birth father. I didn't want to drag the coronavirus over to him since he's dying from stage 4 emphysema. Please pray for my niece and her son, and for her mom and step-dad. They have already had the virus, but that was a while back. Also for my mother who is 79 and has heart problems and lives up in the same town. She's been exposed again. She knows the Lord and is ready to go if he calls her home. I'm sure they would all appreciate your prayers. Also pray for Vivian and I as we go to see my birth father in Indiana and present the Gospel to him once again. Thank-you.
    4 points
  9. I have been witnessing to my birth father and my bonus mom for several years, and my birth father had continued to ask queestions. He is dying of stage 4 emphesyma, and he doesn't have mjuch longer to live. He knows the choice that needs to be made, but has been reluctant to make any decision. He is a former Marine, and is very set in his ways. His other children from this marriage have all been incarcerated at one time or another, and are leading very worldly lives...one brother being in Orlando, hooked on drugs, the other brother living in the Louisville, KY area, just miles away from our father, shacked up with a woman, and my 1/2 sister, also living in the Louisville, KY/Clarksville, IN area also hooked on prescription drugs. My nieces and nephews by my brothers and sisters on this side of the family have all been witnessed to, but they were raised mainly by my birth father and his wife, and have the same reluctance to accept the Gospel of Christ, one of them telling me she was a member of a coven of witches. Please continue to pray for all of these. My wife and I are planning on making a trip up to the Corydon, IN area to see my father and bonus mom. It would be the first time in 26 years I have seen either one of them. We do communicate via phone nearly four times a month. I need to see my father before he passes away. Your prayers are coveted. Thank you.
    4 points
  10. My medical decisions should be between my doctor and I.
    4 points
  11. Salyan

    The Day of Creation

    I agree that an exact date isn’t needed, but there is value to establishing that ‘in the beginning’ Was 6000-ish years ago rather than millions of years.
    4 points
  12. We decided to have one thread about Covid instead of having countless threads covering the same topic. Since this still a hot topic in the world today we don't want not talk about it regardless of beliefs. Whatever you opinion is on covid, this is where you we'll talk about it. All new threads will be closed so please post covid-19 related topics in this thread..
    3 points
  13. Our present and previous administration has failed us with the vaccine. They turned the vaccine into a political agenda and Biden lied about the vaccine just the other day in the CNN town hall meeting (not the part where he rambles about the men on the moon and aliens), and his administrations has not been transparent about the vaccine. It's all been about votes. Sad!!! Thus the hesitancy. I honesty believe this would be different about the vaccine if our politicians told the truth from the beginning.
    3 points
  14. Great answer! Yes freedoms are given by God. God uses governments at His discretion to defend those freedom. For a government to do nothing when laws are violated is the same as condoning the illegal activity and threatens the freedom of the people of that nation. Government here in the states is doing nothing on multiple fronts. I won't take advantage of the current administrations lack of mental prowess to act on behalf of their own citizenry, others have aided and abetted them (i.e. Clinton, Obama, G.W. Bush). I pray for their salvation instead.
    3 points
  15. It also gave you the freedom (excuse) to not attend without drawing criticism. Hebrews 10:25 (KJV) Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
    3 points
  16. Since Covid has a 99.8% recovery rate, it is safe to say that almost no one has died from Covid alone. By the way, the 99.8% recovery rate includes those that died from complications brought on by Covid and/or pre-existing conditions. Most that died died from complications brought on by Covid, would likely have also died from the seasonal Flu; of which, over time, many more have died from than Covid.
    3 points
  17. As I had posted in one of the forums (believe it was the prayer forum), I went to Illinois this past weekend to meet a brother my other siblings never knew we had. He was found through a blood test by 23 and Me when my baby sister from that side of the family took the blood test to find out if she had any issues in her blood. Little did she know that it would lead to us finding out about this sibling. So, it was by the grace of God that we found out. It had been a lifelong dream of Shawn's to find his birth father. He had taken the tests in hopes of finding out who he was. He was disappointed to find out that Dad had passed away in 2000 from colon cancer, but, was greatly excited by the discovery that he had many siblings from his father's second marriage! My sister Becky, from Pekin, IL, and my sister Michele, whom had flown from Augusta, GA to Peoria, IL, and my wife and I, who of course, drove up to Pekin, IL from Murfreesboro, TN were the only ones who could make the trip to meet Shawn, but this was good! We got to face time with our brother, Mike and his wife Melenda (from outside of Tampa Bay), which made Shawn's day! He has received a very warm, loving embrace from my family. My mother has adopted him as her second son, in line of succession, me being the oldest. Shawn is one year younger than I, with Mike following two years behind Shawn. We showed Shawn around that town we grew up in, ate at our fathers favorite diner in Pekin, IL, the Busy Corner Grill, and spent several hours talking with him at Becky's house and at the hotel where we both stayed during our visit to Pekin. It was a GREAT visit, PTL! We are praying that Shawn and his family (his daughter, son-in-law, son and daughter-in-law, mother and grandchild) will come to know the Lord Jesus Christ. We covet your prayers as we continue to get to know Shawn and the rest of our newfound relatives in Boise. Thank you.
    3 points
  18. Unfortunately, Jesus is not the person you were speaking to here. It’s only us, and we can’t read your mind. Your response above, although slightly condescending, utilizes a much more straightforward sentence structure than usual. We would be grateful if you could continue that trend.
    3 points
  19. Why me? To elaborate on my answer to Tony, I took the question as general - we the people, rather than specifically Christians. The question of whether we are actually being persecuted for our faith is much harder to answer at this point. But generally - and in my area of the world (because it's also location-dependent), yes. Canadian citizens are guaranteed free passage within Canada - yet this last few months saw us forbidden from entering different provinces - either at all, or without quarantining or vaccination. Canadians are guaranteed freedom of religion, assembly and association in our Charter of Rights - yet in Alberta (which has been the freest province - it's kind of the Texas of Canada ), we have seen limits on church attendance - as low as 5 distanced people - which were not similarly put on other corporations. This is a limit on our freedom of religion, assembly & association. We have been forbidden from having other people - even close family members - in our homes. This is a limit of our freedom of association. We have been forbidden from having outside gatherings of more than people. This is a limit on our freedom of assembly. The Charter allows for these rights to be temporarily removed for pressing reasons (such as a real pandemic), but the government must prove the need for these. In Alberta, several court cases have asked the government to provide this information THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD BEFORE LIMITING ANY CHARTER FREEDOMS, and they do not have it to provide. They stall, ask for more time to gather it (after 14 months of Covid!), and ultimately provided nothing. This means that they have unlawfully removed our Charter rights. In the last few months, our government in Alberta (whether provincial or federal) have restricted, removed the ability to, or required government permission to: Go to church with more than X people - smallest number being 5 (Alberta was the freest province for this. BC, Ontario and Manitoba have had months where churches were not permitted to be open at all.) Sing to God Sing at all Visit family/friends in their home Visit family/friends outside their home Go to a funeral Attend a wedding Check on or visit seniors in their nursing homes Leave your nursing home (if you're a senior) Have family with you as you die Have family with you in the hospital as a child or maternity patient Receive medical care without masking (even if you're allergic to masks or asthmatic or otherwise incapable of wearing one) Visit our national parks/camp outside Purchase necessities Go to school Go to work Open your small business to make a living (particularly restaurants, personal care and gyms) Protest Hold an event/stampede/parade/concert/literally anything Hug your grandma Stand within 6 feet of someone else (this is actually a health order - a kind of law - that we aren't allowed to do this) Travel freely between towns (Alberta has actually been one of the better ones for this - merely 'discouraging' rather then enforcing. In Ontario, they were actively restricting movement between municipalities within the province. With police checks and everything! Travel freely between provinces (Alberta is actually okay for this - BC has discouraged travel with limited enforcement. The Maritimes have closed their borders to visitors and now the unvaccinated completely.) Leave the country by land (can't do it, period.) Enter the country (to fly into Alberta as a Canadian citizen requires a $3000 3-day stay at a sub-par secured hotel facility. If you have failed to get the right test before returning, you may be removed to an undisclosed location for the full quarantine period. This is a requirement - you are not free to go home without risking severe fines. Oh, but if you're not a Citizen? You don't have to do this. It's only for Canadian citizens.) Leave your home after traveling even if not sick Breathe freely This isn't even a full list... I KNOW there's more I'm not remembering, but there's been so many for so long - I'm forgetting them all now! We're not full-blown communist yet, but looking at this list, we hit totalitarian several months ago. Regardless of one's position on the dangers of Covid, allowing a government to exert this level of control is dangerous.
    3 points
  20. I fear that both sides (including me) are beginning to devolve to name calling, and this thread is going in circles. In the interests of keeping us civil, I’m going to lock this thread. Bill, more than one moderator have expressed a desire to see fewer (or no) Covid threads. I won’t lock any other current threads (unless they similarly devolve), but as requested earlier, you are to refrain from beginning any new Covid threads. If you do so, they will be hidden, and you may receive a warning. Let’s see if we can find common ground in God’s Word and take a break from all this fear-mongering from both sides.
    3 points
  21. I fail to understand why anyone would get an (a) experimental injection (not formally accepted for permanent vaccine use) that (b) already has more reported adverse affects than all vaccines ever to (c) protect them from a flu with a better than 99.9% survival rate (and that’s counting all the deaths wrongfully attributed to Covid), that (d) has a decent, cheap alternative treatment available, and that (e) a good number of us have already had, survived, and developed permanent antibodies for. What truly frightens me is the blind trend to trusting this experimental injection, and resisting such obvious alternative measures for resistance such as antibody testing. But then they couldn’t train the whole world to accept and even force global acceptance of a ‘vaccine’/injection/identifier. Smacks of preparation for the Mark. Christians should resist this mindset if only for that reason! (puts on moderator hat) Bouncing Bill, you are spamming our board with Covid threads. There are other things to talk about. I strongly suggest you try a new topic for future posts.
    3 points
  22. Two separate missionaries in Taiwan (which is on soft lockdown now) have recently had people saved through their online services. One was a lady watching the online Sunday school service with her daughter and called the missionary to come to her house to explain salvation in detail and she was saved. The other was similar, watching the online service with her daughter and was saved. The gospel being preached is the main thing no matter if it's in person or online.
    3 points
  23. To me there is nothing like carrying a Bible in my hands. For a few reasons. It is easier for me to read paper than digital screen. I have a very short attention span. Where was I? oh yeah... Don't need to charge it. It is a great conversation starter when carrying a Bible in public. I have noticed in our church that people that use their phones as Bibles, don't pay attention as much. May have to do with notifications and so forth. I am not against the use of digital Bibles or technology, I just find their is nothing like having God's Word in your hands.
    3 points
  24. This thread is NOT about whether to get the vaccine or not, but it's about the government control on the vaccine. Also I will not apologize for not trusting the government and trusting Science instead. Please stop turning every thread into the vaccine. The purpose of this thread is the door to door of the government's efforts. This type of decision should be discussed between myself and my doctor, not Joe Biden's minions. I have absolutely no problem at all with you or anyone getting the vaccine. I guess I just would like for you to treat me with the same attitude. I do thank you for your concern. I do not believe anyone that does not get the vaccine wishes ill on anyone whether they refuse or take the vaccine.
    3 points
  25. Stop calling this a vaccine, none of the "vaccine's" vaccinates anyone. J&J even admits it. (not talking about you Bro Tony)-
    3 points
  26. PastorMatt

    Kindness

    Yes, there are a lot of organizations that exists that don't show kindness...BLM for one
    3 points
  27. While churches should never try to make an "online virtual church" (not a real church) they also shouldn't exclude any type of media because the great commission compels us to use all mediums to reach the world for Christ. To exclude TV radio, tracts news papers, online video, or audio podcast, etc. just to protest a part of the modern world would be a mistake. In the world but not of the world includes being salt and light online as well as at the door step.
    2 points
  28. I used to go a lot but not much anymore. Especially, because I live in the sticks now. Street preaching or even door to door is not for everyone, IMO. Everyone should find the best way for them to get out the gospel.
    2 points
  29. Also a 12 page booklet entitled "God's Way of Forgiveness for Your Sins" that I have compiled myself and that our church has printed by Bethel Baptist Print Ministry in London, Ontario. This booklet contains two primary sections: I. The first five pages - God's Way of Forgiveness for Your Sins (with the following subpoints, and corresponding passages typed out) 1. You must believe the truth of God's Word that you need God's forgiveness for your sins. You must acknowledge that you have sinned against God. You must acknowledge that you deserve God's judgment. You must acknowledge that you cannot save yourself. 2. You must believe the truth of God's Word that God the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, is the only way of forgiveness and salvation -- through His shed blood, sacrificial death, and glorious resurrection. You must believe that the Lord Jesus Christ died for you and for your sins and sinfulness. You must believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is God the Son, and that He rose again from the dead. You must believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the one and only way of forgiveness and salvation from your sins. You must believe that the Lord Jesus Christ can and will save you from your sins. 3. You must obey the commandment of God's Word to believe and call upon God the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, as your personal Savior from sin. You must personally choose from you heart to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. You must personally and purposefully call in faith from your heart unto the Lord Jesus Christ, asking Him to save you from your sins. You should call upon the Lord Jesus Christ in faith and receive Him as your personal Savior right now. (After a few corresponding passages to the last truth, a "Sample Prayer" is included along with the following note: "This prayer is not magical. If you do not mean this prayer from your heart, it will do you no good.") II. The sixth page - My Decision for Christ (An explanation that the decision to receive the Lord Jesus Christ as personal Savior makes one a child of God. A place to record their spiritual birth date. And some corresponding passages to the above truth.) III. The seventh through tenth page - Counsels to The New Born Child of God (with the following subpoints, and corresponding passages typed out) 1. Know that you have eternal life and that you are secure forever in the Lord's hand. 2. Joyfully obey your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in being baptized Biblically as a believer. 3. Give yourself as a living sacrifice to your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to live your life wholly for Him. 4. Speak to your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ every day in prayer. 5. Read from and meditate on the Word of God every day. 6. Faithfully obey the counsels and commands that your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ gives to you from His Word (the Bible). 7. Attend a Biblically faithful church (a church that preaches, teaches, and stand for the truth of God's Word) whenever it has services. 8. Confess your sins in prayer to the Lord and ask His forgiveness, whenever you disobey the counsels and commands of His Word. 9. Tell others how the Lord Jesus Christ saved you from your sins, and seek to lead them to receive Him as their personal Savior also. IV. The eleventh page - An invitation to Melvin Baptist Church. V. The twelfth page - a blank page. _____________________________ Front Cover
    2 points
  30. That's a tough thing to answer. You got to go with how God leads you that's all I can say.
    2 points
  31. Bill, you really are obsessed with Covid arent you? You can post links from liberal websites (who most likely are financially invested in vaccines) all you want you won't change anybody's mind in here especially via "authoritative sources" nobody trusts. If any of us in this forum gets the vaccine it will be because we feel time has proven the vaccine to be safe or the government points a gun at our heads. Your figure wagging will never work.
    2 points
  32. So much for social distancing. the thing they condemned churches for doing ....and the thing liberals say doesn't work for reaching people.... they are now going to do! lol
    2 points
  33. SureWord

    Street Preaching

    Me and a pastor friend, his brother and my boss from work would street preach in downtown Utica, NY. We'd stick strictly to the gospel. There was a Catholic bookstore nearby and I went in there to look around and asked where the KJV bibles were and the clerk said they keep those back in storage. Should have figured.
    2 points
  34. I've gotten nowhere with my parents. Sometimes I think the Calvinists are right. My father couldn't care less about God, the Bible or the afterlife while my mother shows interest but she cannot except that Jesus was the incarnate God and virgin born.
    2 points
  35. What are you taking about? here's him taking the test... to be fair, this is the test...
    2 points
  36. I say this with respect, but it is all over the news (even some liberal news outlets) that the rich have gotten much richer. If you need me to post links then I will. Government closes down small business and then gives people stimulus money where the majority went to the rich. The only places open was big business to spend the money. This is another topic. Please don't respond here so we can keep this on track. Pleas start a new thread if you wish to discuss how the democrats purposely increased the wealth gap between the rich and the poor. Back on topic, has anyone see the news story where a perfectly healthy 13 year old boy that died 2 days after getting the vaccine? No worries the CDC is investigating and the death will probably go down as something other thank covid death. CDC investigating death of 13-year-old boy after second covid shot (yahoo.com)
    2 points
  37. Quarantine of the sick and not the healthy. Implementation of basic social distancing while keeping in mind civil liberties. Encouraging social commitment etc. The lockdowns were not normal. Rather they created intentional bottle necks and hot zones and unnecessarily harmed people's lives, health and businesses. Such as limiting of store hours forcing people into crowded times and making people stand in line or forcing those with shared units and shared air-conditioning systems into staying with infected people. ect The last one alone is why the numbers and reactions were more sever among nursing homes and assisted living and those in tenement apartment buildings.
    2 points
  38. Breaking news: Leaked picture of the first guy that went door to door in Biden's attempt to vaccinate.
    2 points
  39. The Church in the Wildwood: Promotes the false idea that the 'church' is the building the actual church meets in, rather than just a sanctified building. I agree with the Battle hymn of the Republic: In all honestly, however, it is called "the battle hymn of the REPUBLIC", meaning in truth, it isn't designed to be a hymn to or of God, but for the State, so in that, it is at least honest in its title, though speaking a lot of false doctrine, (as has been mentioned before, as well as other problems), it ought to be avoided. Another song uses the same tune, called the Circuit-Riding Preacher", which I much prefer. Brighten the Corner Where You Are: Maybe not a lot of bad theology, but overly-simplistic, too repetitive, more allegory, no clear mention of Christ, the gospel, salvation, God, just too vague.
    2 points
  40. Please don't think the corruption stopped where you conveniently stopped in your stats.
    2 points
  41. BrotherTony

    Kindness

    The point wasn't about "White Supremecy." I mentioned the NAACP as well, but that was overlooked. I do realize that the ACLU has represented SOME Christians, but they are few and far between. They represent more actions AGAINST Christianity than for it. I have friends and relatives who are members of the ACLU. As far as "Christianity Today," they are more of a liberal rag to me. I don't really read them often, though I used to when I was growing up 40 to 50 years ago. Antifa would be another, along with the Democratic Party.
    2 points
  42. A perfect good example is cdc's website... COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective at preventing COVID-19 disease, especially severe illness and death. COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of people spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. This is contradicting to say the least. If the vaccine is effective at preventing covid then why say it helps severe illness. death, and spread. You HAVE to have covid for that to even take place. It is their subtle way to say it will not prevent you from getting covid, but will help in symptoms. Science has proven that the antibodies does the same thing. btw, I'm not against anyone who feels the need to get the vaccine
    2 points
  43. Eh. I think this is an issue people become Pharisees about. I do not believe it’s good to listen to music purely devoted to romance, or drugs which is most music for time millennium but also I do not think listening to slice of life music is bad. I do listen to mostly Christian music, but a good slice of life song is better than a bad Christian rock song or whatever is on the ‘Christian radio’
    2 points
  44. I certainly hope Konstantin has learned a serious lesson.
    2 points
  45. PastorMatt

    Church Attendance

    We are small which allowed us to stay open easier during the "Pandemic". During the Pandemic our numbers were down, but the last 3 months we have been averaging the best numbers that we have in the 5 years of our church's existence.
    2 points
  46. @Konstantin, you still here?
    2 points
  47. Date setting is easy and creates great interest....until it is proven wrong. "In the beginning" is good enough for me; if God had wanted me to know just when that was, He would have told me.
    2 points
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