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John Young

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  1. Not really sure this is pertinent to the discussion but I wonder if sound and site work differently in the spirit world (no physical body) than in the Physical world. A few examples would be when on earth, Paul, John, Peter, The 70 elders of Israel on Mount Sinai, etc., were given temporary spiritual sight into heaven.
  2. "Hell" is an English word, "Sheol" is not. It is a Hebrew word transliterated into roman letters from Hebrew letters. If it was translated into English then the correct English word would be "hell".
  3. You are moving the focus of faith off of Christ and onto his acts. This is called "moving the goal post". We are not saved "by our faith in the death, burial, and resurrection" but rather by our faith in Christ. The acts of Christ in HIS Death Burial and Resurrection provided the way of salvation but knowledge of those facts does not save. Rather, our faith is IN CHRIST places is into HIM and only then do we become partakers in His salvation. OT believers IN CHRIST receive the same Blessings without full knowledge of HIS acts to provide that salvation, just as much as do we NT believers who ha
  4. You are not saved by your knowledge and facts of HOW Christ saved us. Rather you are saved by faith in Christ. The OT believer had faith in Christ for their salvation and were saved by that faith alone. John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
  5. The same can be shown for Moses (Hebrews 11:24-27), and David (Acts 2:30-31, 4:25-28), and many other OT saints, that they trusted in Christ (the coming messiah). Something to note as you read the gospels, the amount of people who were looking for "The Christ" to deliver them BEFORE Jesus died on the cross. They were not looking for the cross or some generic promise that God gave about the nation but rather looking for their savior. The wicked wanted to destroy him, the faithful wanted to submit to him. If you do a word study on "Christ" in the Gospels, before Jesus was sacrificed, you will se
  6. John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Hebrews 11:17-20 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18 of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19 accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. 20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was fou
  7. This is generally true but technically it was not the cross. They Looked forward to the Christ who would one day come and save them. However, they did no know that the cross would be the method until after he rose again. John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
  8. Understanding The Psalms A handbook for Spiritual Christian Growth Book 1 (Psalms 1-41): How to Be Blessed by God (Downward Blessing) Book 2 (Psalms 42-72): Learning To Trust God (Upward Trust) Book 3 (Psalms 73-89): The Believer's Worldly Struggle (Outward Reality) Book 4 (Psalms 90-106): Going to God for Protection (Inward Faith) Book 5 (Psalms 107-150): Learning to Praise God (Pressing Onward) "The Psalms" is a harmonious collection meant to be meditated upon and mastered in progresive order, to foster spiritual growth and understanding. Learned as a whole, greater truth
  9. What I said is in harmony with scripture, showing that The Father worked through Christ (by Christ's Works) to secure our eternal salvation and that he is now working in us, the believer, to convey that salvation to others (by our works). Christ's Works secured the salvation and our works convey his salvation to others and thu this conveyance the Father delivers faith and draws the person. 2 Corinthians 5:17-19 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to hims
  10. Our Faith before man in any time period can only help others if conveyed by works but no amount of our own works can save our souls. We are saved by faith alone conveyed by the works of Christ alone. We were saved and given faith by the works of Christ and our faith conveyed by works will help give faith in Him to others. Faith in our works cannot save our souls, only faith Christ's works can do that. James 2:18b KJV I will shew thee my faith by my works.
  11. You may want to rethink your words and do a bit of self reflection on your private doctrine then. Logic, reason, and scripture would dictate that you are the one who is wrong if all of Christianity disagrees with you.
  12. The method of salvation has always been not of works. Any amount of Works for salvation in any period of time is an insult to the Grace of God. Romans 11 makes this clear where Apostle Paul shows from three periods of time that Salvation is not of any works. He uses Israel entering the land, David's prayers, and the 7,000 faith in the time of the kings, and our present time to show it is of Grace alone. And this only in Romans 11. In fact Paul uses OT scripture in all his books to prove By grace through faith in Christ alone! Romans 11:5-10 5 Even so then at this present time ALSO there
  13. Trolling is meant to incite reactions and controversy but not a decision. What Christ did was specifically done to separate the chaff from the wheat and provoke the wheat to bear fruit.
  14. In general I tend to agree, however, I believe the acceptable form was verbal transmission from father to son. It wasn't until Moses that it was officially written down in a book form (papary and ink) so that the new nation could have the record of their history as part of their covenant with God. Deuteronomy 32:7 KJV Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask thy father, and he will shew thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee. Exodus 24:3-4,7-8 KJV And Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord, and all the judgments: and all the people a
  15. Glad to see you are a Saved KJV Christian. In regards to your questions about the earth, Answers in Geneses has some good information. In fact they did an interview yesterday with Dr. Danny Faulkner who is a Christian Physicist and Astronomer. In it they give a broad overview of the topic and some of the issues. You can start with that interview here:
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