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John Young

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John Young last won the day on June 25 2016

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  1. John Young

    Anyone in your church not a Dispensationalist?

    I'm referring to basic reading and facts of scripture. It has nothing to do with Dispensational theology. First ignore the word "jew" for a moment. You do not need that term to understand the concept between Christ's church and the Israeli State. Biblically Israel is a servant nation. Anyone in that nation by the circumcision of Moses is a servant of God. Its priesthood is Levetical and only for those in the nation. Leviticus 25:55 For unto me the children of Israel are servants; they are my servants whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. Biblically the church is a Priesthood and family of God. You enter it by believer's baptism. Its Priesthood is a continuation after the order of Melchizedek and is for any believer in the world. Galatians 3:26-28 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 1 Peter 2:5 ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 6:20 whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? Now "Jew" as you said is a religion but it is also a culture of displaced people. Similar to how the Slavic (Russian) Baptist Church here in Spokane, WA is a church and a Russian culture. You don't have to be Slovic to join but most are and if you join you will pick up a lot of Russian traditions and habits as well. Now to be clear the Slavic church is Russian and many (not all) of their people are Russian descent but they are not in Russia, nor are they Russia. When Israel was dissolved as a nation in the dispersion to Babylon, their identity switched from national to their synagogue or OT church. At the time of Christ the Jews were the only correct teachers of salvation as Christ said: John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. Also Israel had been reconstituted in Jesus day as well (Acts 5:21 And when they heard that, they entered into the temple early in the morning, and taught. But the high priest came, and they that were with him, and called the council together, and all the senate of the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought.) but the Jews religion was not just in Israel nor was it all Israeli: Acts 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. And all the believing Jews Joined the NT Church in the Apostles generation. Only those Jews rejecting Christ remained in their OT synagogue church and formed the Jewish false religion we have today. Now in Acts 15 the believing Jews confused Israel and the NT Church. Because they had been in their displaced Israeli church they identified Church and Israel as being the same, So they said the Non Israeli had to Join the nation by circumcision of Moses in order to access the salvation of Christ. Acts 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judæa taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. What you need to understand is that the church is not a spiritual Israel but rather the priesthood of the Kingdom of Heaven. The Kingdom of Heaven is the spiritual nation that the church will be a priesthood for. Mark 1:14-15 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. Israel and its Jewish religion had first chances to enter and indeed the believing did but the unbelieving did not. Acts 1:5-8 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. So you see the church is NOT a "spiritual Israel" but Israel will receive the kingdom when Christ returns to take control of that nation as its King and cut the wicked off from it. Romans 9:27-29 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: 28 for he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. 29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. Romans 11:25-27 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 for this ismy covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
  2. John Young

    Anyone in your church not a Dispensationalist?

    What you are referring to is replacement theology which basically confuses Church and State. Israel is a nation. Its father is Jacob. They are a servant people by flesh. The church is a priesthood its father is God, they are sons by Spirit. It is possible to be saved and not part of Israel. It is also possible to be saved and part of Israel. It is also possible to be lost and part of Israel. Acts 15 shows clearly Jews were of Israel and Christ but the Gentiles were just of Christ without needing to be of Israel at all.
  3. I've spoken to him on facebook a few times. We disagree on theology and on his online persona direction if you will but I actually like him somewhat and knows he is a genuine christian who wants people saved. Having watched his ministry over the years, I can tell you he is very smart and I would say he knows exactly what he is doing. One friend of mine likened him to the Donald Trump of the IFB world. He he knows how to pick the "right" enemies and build an online audience around it and then capitalizes on it. Notice his positions carters to the average online "nut" that no average IFB guy would typically reach and he has been able to reach them and mobilize them somewhat into soul winners, followers, or hecklers who will in turn draw in more. He is not actually interested in if the average IFB guy likes him online but that it gets views from the greater online world. Again I'm not saying I agree with his methods but whatever he is, he is not definitely not ignorant. (For example, the above video would not have been shared normally hut because the inciting crude language, now its being shared. It does not mater if the one sharing it likes it or not. every share helps make the "controversial video" go viral to reach those who would not have seen it otherwise. then when it goes viral the news picks it up and the more it reaches.)
  4. John Young

    Live Streaming Church Services

    Here is a good Youtube video of a quality live stream tutorial showing all the components for a church set up with the sound system. Both the cell stream and camera computer setups are shown.
  5. John Young

    Live Streaming Church Services

    We don't live stream but we do upload and post the sermons because our space does not have internet. We use a Cannon Vixia HF R62. It has a 52x optical zoom and a aux audio input that can be plugged into your sound system if needed and a hmdi plug for the computer live stream feed and a slot for an SD card for manual uploads. The camera can be bought online referbished for around $160. The newer models go for around $250 but are basically the same. The cheapest and easiest is just to have a good cellphone in the front row directly streaming with the Facebook or Youtube but for quality sound and video the camera will work in the sound booth connected to a video processing box (it takes the HD processing load off of your computer) that is then connected to a quality computer connected to the live stream.
  6. The church plant I currently pastor has about 12 right now and we post our sermons as well. As few main reasons we do it is because it is a cheap and easy way to evangelize and get our message out to those we minister to, it gives us an openness and accountability to our home church and community, so even if they do not attend they will know what is being taught and done in our church. Because the church is a second generation church plant of Steven Anderson's church. Faithful Word Baptist Church sent out Donnie Romero to start Steadfast Baptist church in Fort worth Texas and they sent out Adam Fanin to start Steadfast Baptist of Jacksonville,FL. He is not yet an ordained pastor but consider him an evangelist out of their church. The church is still under the authority of Steadfast of Fort Worth.
  7. John Young

    Anyone in your church not a Dispensationalist?

    I don't consider myself a Dispensationalist and I allow non-dispensationlist in our church. We hold to a Stewardship Theology. Though I have a feeling that the issues you have are not actually with dispensation theology itself. The fact that you bring up the "Jewish question" and then relate it to dispensational theology shows you have been primed against the theology even before you actually know what it is. Probably by a person who holds to Replacement theology. Not being able to defined replacement of Israel with the church from the scriptures directly, they have to confuse the issue by appealing to "Jewish religion" and the "historical Christian view" Which is just another term for catholic theology. Catholic theology believes they are the "Spiritual" State of Israel. Baptist, on the other hand believe in the separation of Church and State. Even in the OT Church and State were separate.
  8. John Young

    I'm Saved!

    I put non-denominational.... I do consider myself Baptist but I don't consider that a denomination... Though I am thinking about switching my denomination to "Independent right wing fried chicken eating radical baptist" or something.
  9. John Young

    Is Time To Talk Impeaching Trump

    Seems to me it is time to talk removal proceedings for "tooldtocare". Why do you join a Baptist site yet only post leftist political rhetoric?
  10. Leviticus 20 gives the Penalties for committing the Abominations listed in Leviticus 18. The primary sin from which the rest flows is the abomination of "whoring with Molech". This basically was the giving of their new born babies to be killed by burning over a fire on the hands of a metal Idol called Molech. This evil practice was done by people who wanted to get rid of their unwanted children in exchange for the idol to give them good crops. This practice was popular with promiscuous men who did not want the responsibility for the child or mother. God commanded the most severe penalty for such whoremonger. Not only was Molech outlawed any man spreading his seed in the land and giving it to Molech was to be put to death and if he was not then wrath would also be against his family and nation. In this sermon we see how allowing such men in the land will result in and lead to the other societal abominations as well. This chapter deals with the penalties for molestation, fornication, adultery, hatred of parents, homosexual acts, bestiality, and witchcraft. In this sermon we explain how each nation has a duty to keep the whorish men of Molech from destroying their land or the land will spew us out and God's wrath will be on our nation. Preached: April 29, 2018 Sunday Morning. By Pastor John Young, at Edgecliff Baptist Church, Spokane Valley, WA.
  11. John Young

    Was Simon the Sorcerer saved?

    I had a good time preaching this a few weeks ago. The text says he is a believer but that he desired a power that did not belong to him and was becoming bitter. Its similar to a lot of Christians who want to serve God in certain ways or in a certain office but are not qualified to serve in that way. We get our term Simony (the buying of church offices) because of Simon.
  12. John Young

    The Sinner's Prayer/ Asking Jesus into your heart

    While "Ask Jesus into your heart" can be considered poor terminology, I do not think it is bad theology. I believe its is based on this passage Galatians 4:6-7 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. 7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Giving it this sense that the sinner becomes a Child of God by God sending forth the Spirit into our hearts, it is not wrong, when paired with a clear gospel message, to ask God, in prayer, to give us His Spirit and make us His child.
  13. John Young

    Activity on Online Baptist

    Same thing here. Its a good problem to have I guess!
  14. God is long suffering and forgiving towards sinners, giving them many opportunities to repent and do right. However, God lets us know that there are certain immoral actions that cannot be allowed to continue openly in a just society. In Leviticus 18 God explains the baseline moral requirements for the nation to be allowed to remain in His Holy Land. In this sermon we show the moral sins God particularly hates. Including Abortion, Infanticide, Incest, Molestation, homosexual acts, Bestiality, and etc. The passage explains that if they are not put away from the people then God will visit the iniquity of these sins on us all and the land itself will "vomit" them and us out of it. We also deal with the Sodomite Agenda to deceive society in these matters. Attempting to make these things acceptable in our land. Preached: April 15, 2018 Sunday Morning. By Pastor John Young, at Edgecliff Baptist Church, Spokane Valley, WA.
  15. John Young

    Revelation Bible Study.

    I'm still interested in doing one but I doubt it will be any time soon. I currently still have several other projects I'm working on for church that I have to finish before I can get to It. I will also be working on a larger project on "The Word". Basically how God transmits His Word by the Spirit to Spirit filled Men who speak and write it down, and how God preserves it for every generation, and how the devil tries to corrupt the Word, how many modern bible versions ignore how God's proper transmission methods, etc. I may integrate the study on the various terms into that study. The particular study referenced would be how the Bible uses those particular terms rather then how men use them generically.
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