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Everything posted by Genevanpreacher

  1. Except Alan's lie of "the Lord said...". Alan makes up a new doctrine, and yes, WW, anything taught IS doctrine, and Alan is perverted in his Bible study just enough to prove the masses reading this thread that we must all be fools.
  2. You have to be the vainest minister I have ever come across Alan. You can't answer those verses I asked about can you? I added nothing to God's word, but you have added multiple imaginations to support your very weak opinion of what you interpret that the scriptures mean. How dare you be so firmly hard shell about saying that "Nothing" I said was worthy of studying!!! I DO NOT reject, and HAVE NOT rejected in ANY shape or form, neither of your 2 references named above!! AND to say this - "Genevanpreacher wants the scriptures to say the words of the prophets and the words of
  3. And, Alan, the Lord Jesus did open their minds before he left, to understand the scriptures - which included Psalms - "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures" Don't you think this is HOW they got the idea to replace Judas? Open your eyes a leeeetle wider.
  4. And Alan, just where am I twisting the Lord Jesus' words?? Show me wrong. The apostle's had the Holy Spirit. The same Holy Spirit that would guide the disciples, called apostle's, into all truth - "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall she
  5. Alan, if you would read a little in more detail, you would see that I am not arguing that Paul was not an apostle, but I do say he was not, nor ever shall be, one of the 12 disciples, which the Lord Jesus called 'apostles' - And not 'Apostles', as a title. You say the Lord called him, (or called him to be), one of the 12 apostle's. There is no verse, or set of verses, in your Bible that states such, and to say there is, is deceitful to those reading this thread. (Why anyone else would support you is astounding - As well as surprising.) Let me quote you Alan - "Brethren, The
  6. Nope. Not one verse you quoted said that. Not one time does the scriptures say that Paul replaced Judas...not once! Yet Alan says it does. Keep looking though. Maybe it's there...maybe. Or maybe you believe a man made doctrine.
  7. So I guess that's an amen to throwing out the facts and reliability of what the word of God actually says. You all are just amazing.
  8. As for the silly idea that the 12 apostles were not led by the Holy Spirit before pentecost - the Lord Jesus gave'm him - well, here, once again let God tell us - in John 20 - 21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:" And as stated before, the actual English word means 'sent for a particular reason', then we all are apostles. For who would deny that the 'great commission' is not for us all? 19 Go ye therefore, and t
  9. Alan, I did not reference Bro. Green because he is a man, and not the word of God. That's all. I care not for some 20th century mans opinion. Respected or not.
  10. Thick headed? Maybe. I am just tired of 'men of God' saying the scriptures mean grape juice when the drink was indeed alcoholic. Otherwise why the warning in 1 Timothy 3:3 and 3:8, of which nobody has touched on? A book about the supposed English translations from various languages of men stating different views on 'wine' makes no difference to me. There are just as many 'testimonies' to the contrary from other men. Of course the Temperance society was going to explain why there were two different interpretations, one to show Jesus drank juice, and one that states alcohol is evil. Ju
  11. Anyone 'called' is given the 'apostleship' just like Paul did. We are also called to be apostles. Look carefully below - Romans 1 - 1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: 5 By whom we have received grace and a
  12. Acts 14:14 - "Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,..." The word "apostles" just means someone 'sent'. From about the 12th century this word existed, and meant anyone 'sent' for a cause. Scripture in the above verse proves that out, and disproves that Paul was the 'so-called' 12th apostle. In the NT anyone who was 'sent' out to do the Lord's work was an apostle, but not necessarily of the original 12 disciples, which the Lord Jesus called apostles.
  13. Are you the originator of this thoughtline? I have NEVER heard this before your last thread, and I find it FANTASTIC that very few have called you on this. I believe the scriptures teach, as they say. Matthias was chosen. Paul was the Gentile preacher and Peter the Jew's preacher. Paul even is recorded in Galatians 2 as such, separated from Peter's ministry. 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; 8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the ci
  14. And look at all the 'acts' ... Philip was not an Apostle. Barnabas was not an Apostle. Stephen was not an Apostle. Or were they? Yes, but not of the 12.
  15. And quotes from history translated from a language most do not understand? And printed during a ministry drive for the National Temperance Society. For the 'support' against alcoholic beverages. Hardly a balanced Bible study kinda people. Meanwhile...what about 1 Timothy 3:3 & 3:8 as questioned above?
  16. Then why the warnings in 1 Tim 3:3 and 3:8 for a bishop and a deacon to not be "given to wine" and "given to much wine"? If it weren't harmful in being 'given to wine' or 'given to much wine', since it was 'fruit juice', why would they bother paying heed to these verses? The implications are that these words for 'wine' mean alcoholic based.
  17. You are of course allowed to have your own opinion. I just wish you weren't so high and lifted up on this site. Then people might be able to really learn. Instead they get a little learning mixt up with a little trash. Your vanity has been much magnified this day Alan, and that surprises me not one iota. Paul the 12th apostle? What a joke.
  18. Well here's another great 'christian' attitude.
  19. Read my last post please. And when did I say that - "You said the replacement HAD to be at the last supper".
  20. This is just your opinion with no support at all in the scriptures. Matthias was the replacement for Judas, regardless of when the Holy Spirit showed up at Pentecost. The Spirit showed up, not for giving wisdom on who would replace Judas, but for the wisdom on what to say to spread the gospel to all those in Jerusalem on that day. As for your comment about Peter "speaking in all of his Spirit-less carnality" - that is just plain not true. If it had been before the Lord showed himself after his death, I would possibly agree, but Peter had been converted after he saw Jesus Christ alive. As
  21. Yes, Alan, evidently I must've been. I should have made a softer answer, but can't change the past. I try to stand for accuracy, and unless I am just ignorant on a subject, I try to keep my mouth shut. If I have, what I think would be helpful information, I try to say it with authority, and try not to look like a fool. Sometimes I fail. Sometimes I don't - some here just view it as a failure. But you know WAY back when you stated that Paul replaced Judas as the twelfth 'apostle', you lost any resemblance of being knowledgeable enough to state other things with authority. Yet, that do
  22. I am the same WW. Til someone started talking about it on OB, I never heard of it. And that someone was RSS robot. I think that kinda info useless.
  23. I wouldn't want it either. Mostly this stuff is charismatic sounding useless info, given from questionable sources and opinions based on nothing. The ministry is comparable to conspiracy theory type sites, and I don't understand why it's such a main thread here on OB. Regardless of Mr. Swindoll. I am curious though - why do you think he is a "heretic"?
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