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Is "James the preacher" among this bunch?

2 Thessalonians 3:10............ if any would not work, neither should he eat................

First of all, I would point out, the Biblical meaning of the word "liberal" is actually good. But the World has perverted it and uses it for evil. Be that as it may; a real Christian does not "follow a multitude to do evil". A real Christian does not use his votes to promote things like sodomy and the wholesale slaughter of children.

Atom 1: I found it....now it's mine Atom 2: hmm...that's ionic

14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Calvinism shares alot of its 'theology' with Islam; a selfish god devoid of love. A god in the likeness of sinful man. The only real god with those attributes is the god of this world...the Devil. Muslims will kill you for saying things like this; I wonder how far staunch Calvinists would go?

Neither Calvin, Spurgeon, nor any of those other dudes were around when I got saved on May 11, 1986; just the Word of God and the Holy Ghost.

Sure is. But Calvinism sure isn't.

God created some to go to Hell for His "glory" and we can't accept that because "God's ways are higher than our ways". (even though Genesis chapter 3 says we have "knowledge of good and evil"). Hey, even LOST people know that's evil.

......for the "glory" of God.

If a person gets saved, he then becomes one of those predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. But before that same man believes on Jesus and gets saved, he's not predestined to anything: He's on his way to Hell.

It's not what we think but what the Bible says. The Bible says that "God so loved the world" not some of the world. The Bible says that "God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked". The Bible says that "God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance". The Bible documents that people can hear the Gospel, be convicted, and then reject it of their own free will. And God has documented that He loves people who He knows will reject Him. I can give you more but I'm kind of busy right now.

A preacher friend of mine says it's pretty prevalent in Black churches.

Luke 18:13 King James Version (KJV) 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. Sin Righteousness Judgement You must deal with "sin, rigteousness and judgement". You must turn to God from your sin, knowing that God is going to judge you in Hell and that you DESERVE it. . I've heard it put like "taking God's side against yourself".

.......and why specially "prepare" a great fish to swallow him if it was just going to swallow and kill him like "great fish" normally do?