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The Ordinances of Heaven Job 38:33, “Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth? An ordinance is an established law or rule. Astronomer and mathematician, Johannes Kepler 1571-1630, verified that the sun and the planets are governed by scientific laws, or ordinances. Johannes Kepler was a devout Christian. Kepler believed that God created the universe as the Bible says He did. Psalm 119: 90 & 91, “Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth. They continue this day according to thine ordinances: for all are thy servants.” All of the ordinances of the physical universe were estab…
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This is interesting - @DaveW, have you heard about this? In September 2018, a 20-strong team of palaeontologists and volunteers gathered near Karoola homestead in Central West Queensland to rescue a slew of dinosaur footprints (figure 1).1,2,3Over 20 days, they excavated endangered tracks from a dry creek bed and moved them some 100 km to the Australian Age of Dinosaurs Museum near Winton, founded by Executive Chairman, David Elliott. Australian vertebrate palaeontologist Dr Stephen Poropat of Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne is leading the research work. The tracks were first exposed 20 years before when floods altered the course of the creek. Al…
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I used to admire Kent Hovind. A great deal of his work on Creation vs Evolution is very sound and helpful. However, his integrity was called into question, for me, when he was sent to prison. When he was released, he immediately and obsessively began the process of re-starting his Dinosaur Adventure Land. By watching his daily videos, more and more of his quirkiness in conspiracy theories were becoming apparent. His wife divorced him, he remarried a divorced woman (claiming God told him to) and has recommended others do the same. He obsesses about his court case and Dinosaur Adventure Land and he openly and unapologetically antagonizes and ridicules atheists …
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I was thinking about something that bothered my last night. Some of you may have heard about how the Bombadeer beetle, or other creatures with unique characteristics that refute evolutionary process, for example the long neck of the giraffe: It is my understanding that the giraffe has two different organs in it's neck, 1 to keep blood in the brain, and another to keep blood from flowing into the brain, these two organs must both be present in order for the giraffe not to die when raising and lowering it's head. therefore the 2 organs and the neck of the giraffe must "evolve" at the same time. I have often heard this used to debunk darwinian evolution. 1. where did the m…
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As a scientist and researcher, and as a missionary for fifty some years... I have to tell you from ebing in maybesix or seven evolution/creation forums or supposed discussion boards, that evolution is unscientific and has no basis in biology, genetics, chemistry, math or physics... Evolution is totally bogus and a forced religion. This is why it is forced and not allowed to be questioned and why evolutionists have no idea what they believe nor why. They have no proofs, and no evidence. They say they do, but cant produce it when challenged. Whereas creationism is scientific and is based on laws and cycles and adaptations, instincts, balance, harmony...all given…
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For a Christian, the phrase, "What came first, the chicken or the egg?" is a simple answer: the chicken of course! Genesis 1:21 - "And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good." For an evolutionist, the answer is .... complicated. I saw this video on youtube and thought they did a good job describing how a chick can breathe inside it's egg. The entire process of a chick forming is very intricate, but looking at just the shell of the egg and how it was created to protect the forming chick inside as well as provid…
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The 7 days of Genesis & 7,000 years old earth view (Ps. 90:4, II Pet. 3:8)), have you heard this? A full Download here of all historical citations - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=88323982112145612890 For instance (summary): In Matthew 13, Jesus gives several related parables, about the work of a laborer, sowing in the field and then reaping. According to Holy scripture, the workweek is six days long, with one of rest at the end (Exodus 20:8-11; &c). Therein, the ‘field’ is identified with the “world”, and the sowing of the gospel seed for those six days. The harvest is the end, but notice in St. Matthew 13:3…
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HOW OLD IS THE EARTH? By Bill Sizemore February 20, 2009 NewsWithViews.com Many Christians are under the impression that if you believe the Bible, then you must believe that the earth is 6,000 years old. But is this so? Christians come to the 6,000 year conclusion, not based on something the Bible says about the age of the earth, but by tracking the biblical genealogies from Jesus back to Adam, which add up to about 4,000 years, and then adding in the 2,000 years from Christ until now. From a biblical perspective, this approach tells us approximately how long man has been around, but as we shall see, it does not necessarily tell us how long the earth has be…
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This is a true story from my area... Recently, a group of college students from a nearby university volunteered to "help" at a nearby elementary school. Unbeknownst to the school's administration, the college students spent their time preaching evolution to the children. They even had an "altar call" when it was over...asking that if they (the elementary children) believed what they had just heard, to just raise their hands. Apparently all but one child was "saved" ... In other words, all but one child raised their hands to acknowledge that they believed in evolution. I'm not sure at this point what (if any) repercussions will…
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One of the problems of not accepting a literal interpretation of Genesis is that, Genesis being so foundational for so much of what we believe, we can easily go astray on vital matters. 3 examples will suffice: 1. Edmund Gosse was born to a Christian couple in 1849. His mother went to be with Christ when he was still a boy. His Father raised him in the "nurture and admonition of the Lord" and he made a strong profession of faith in Christ. However, he had serious problems accepting Genesis and, eventually, went right away from the Lord. 2. Charles Templeton was a preacher alongside Billy Graham in the 1940s. However, he started to doubt Genesis and this…
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Problems with Evolution (I hope this works......)
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I was having a discussion with a new friend a few weeks ago and the subject of Theistic Evolutionism came up. Apparently, she believed in it, but I didn't know that. She asked me if I thought that it was possible for God to have used Evolutionism to bring about things. I told her, "Not the God of the Bible." She asked me why I said that and I replied, "Because Evolutionism has a long string of deaths bringing man into existence, but the Bible says that one man brought death into existence. (Romans 5:12, 15, 17, 1 Corinthians 15:21). I didn't make a presentation out of it; I said it in about 30 seconds or so. I wasn't expecting the affect it would have. She jus…
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I heard this over thirty years ago on a late night AM radio station. (Genesis 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." The very first verse of the King James Bible contains a trinity of trinities consisting of time, space and matter. "In the beginning" = Time (Past Present Future) "God created the heaven" = Space (Length Width Height) "and the Earth" = Matter (Solid Liquid Gas) I just love things like this.
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Someone shared this video on facebook and I thought it was interesting. I had not heard of the Caddisfly before, but apparently fly fishermen have! What I found interesting is that the Caddisfly larvae have the ability to build themselves a protective covering, binding it together with a sticky silk they produce. In the video they call it "evolution". However, when I looked these critters up on wikipedia, they've been found in fossil records that date back over '250 million years ago', with nary a change. My thought is, why did the Caddisfly larvae 'evolve' the ability to secrete sticky silk to bind together debris for protection, rather than 'evolve' a shell like a sna…
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Scientists are now breathing life into the concept of chimeras by creating organisms containing the cells of humans and animals. Several teams in the US are inserting human tissue into early pig and sheep embryos. The journal MIT Technology Review estimates that 20 such hybrid embryos have been produced, an early proof-of-principle step towards growing human organs inside animal tissue. The hybrid embryos have been observed in early development but, crucially, are never brought to term. The Salk Institute in California, together with the universities of Stanford and Minnesota, are among the institutions pioneering the as-yet-unpublished research. http://www.ft.com/intl/c…
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My phone just showed me this site: http://religionnews.com/2016/06/11/why-some-evangelicals-changed-their-minds-about-evolution/ A group going to churches to promote the idea that science and the Bible are not mutually exclusive, but only because the Bible doesn't mean what it says. I agree that the Bible and science are not mutually exclusive but that is because the more you study science, the more you find that it fits with the Bible actually says.
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What a Creator we have! I got this in my email this morning. God's diversity in creation is amazing. The article has pictures that show some of what the Mimic can do. http://creation.com/mimic-octopus "In 1998 a fantastic creature was discovered off the coast of the island of Sulawesi in Indonesia. The Mimic Octopus (Thaumoctopus mimicus) is the first living thing ever observed to imitate the shape, colour, texture, posture and behaviour of several other animal species. It performs multiple impersonations as it crosses the ocean floor."
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A whale fossil was discovered on a mountain in California on September 4... The fact that a whale fossil was found on a mountain isn't necessarily the focus of the article; they focus on HOW it got there. The article opens by explaining how it got there, and it closes by (once again) explaining how it got there. Link to article --> Evolutionary article that spins one whale of a tale! This makes much more sense to me and is a better explanation... Genesis 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
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Hi all! This topic isn't so much about arguing the merits of evolution versus creationism, but rather for me, an outsider (as a "believer" in evolution), to understand what it is exactly members of this forum believe about the theory of evolution. I appreciate any input and here are a list of suggested content to be discussed: what do you think evolution is? Why do you reject evolution? What do you think a theory is? What led you to be interested in this topic? Why do you think evolutionary theory is popular in biology? Can you define a "kind"? To what extent can a creature evolve if you believe it's possible? Why is there an extent to which a creature can evolve? And, o…
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What does the Evolutionist say about Creation? What does it matter to us? When I come to studying the Bible I don’t really give a hoot what other people believe, be they Pope or be they Darwinian, in that, what others believe doesn’t change that which it true. So with that in mind lets have a brief look at The Day and Night of Genesis, and then a few thoughts on the topic to finish. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good…
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Mt. Kitt observatory is not far from where I live. I suspect that this "search" will eventually yield "results" before the Tribulation. Nearly 200 scientists are attending the conference, called "The Search for Life Beyond the Solar System: Exoplanets, Biosignature & Instruments," which runs from March 16 through 21 in Tucson, Ariz. The Vatican Observatory is co-hosting the conference with the University of Arizona's Steward Observatory. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/17/is-alien-life-vatican-observatory-science-conference/ And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie 2 Thessalonians 2:11
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I found this article very interesting. Since I help with Creation Club here, I receive emails from various creation groups. This one is headquartered in England. CMI - Creation Ministries International - has some interesting articles on creation, but this one kind of veers from that. It is a sad read, chilling, really. But it is interesting...evolution causes folk to believe they are nothing special. And so why not kill or commit suicide or do drugs or on and on...This young man was such a one as to buy into that thought. I'm quoting the whole article so that if someone can't open the link they can still read it. (Credit goes to CMI) http://creation.com/will-cor…
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There was a new poll that came out last week that showed that most Americans, by 51%, reject the big bang. Similar numbers for evolution and man made glOBal warming hold true too. This got alot of traction and a hot debate (with plenty of name calling too) on other forums I frequent, but I've not seen it mentioned here. I tried ot post it last week but I was having issues with the forum letting me post links to that artical. I've posted on below ( I hope) to the artical mentioned in the Huffington post. Yes the huffpo is very left wing, but it will show you how they feel about us if you read the coments below the artical. So what's your take on this? Some Chri…
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'Jaw-dropping' breakthrough hailed as landmark in fight against hereditary diseases as Crispr technique heralds genetic revolution A breakthrough in genetics – described as “jaw-dropping” by one Nobel scientist – has created intense excitement among DNA experts around the world who believe the discovery will transform their ability to edit the genomes of all living organisms, including humans. For the first time, scientists are able to engineer any part of the human genome with extreme precision using a revolutionary new technique called Crispr. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/exclusive-jawdropping-breakthrough-hailed-as-landmark-in-fight-against-heredi…
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It has been held by evolutionists that tissue and blood vessel cannot survive for the millions and billions of years that have been since the "banging" of time. They would likely be right on that, and no-one can seriously argue the point simply because no-one has been around that long to prove or disprove it. However, an interesting thing came to light a few years ago (I just saw it today)... She is excited because her research is based on the false foundation of a big bang millions/billions of years ago...she has revised her (and the "scientific realm) thoughts that soft tissue and blood vessels cannot survive millions of years. 80 million, in point of fact. …
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http://debatelive.org/ I will watch it.
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His Banner Over Me Was Love, and in awe of such a marvelously wonderous thing, what can I do, but love Him who first loved me? Creation - Genesis 1 & 2, teaches the plan of Salvation & Redemption, but how many knew this? Jesus Christ & the Gospel, how many know what they really are to us, or really understands what is therein? So precious few, so very precious few. O, many think they know, but fall so short of realizing what was/is freely given unto us. O, many indeed love Jesus with all their heart, but yet still not know, and I believe, even hopefully, that is about to change. 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godli…
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Evolutionists claim the earth existed for millions of years before man "appeared". Theistic-Evolutionists (who claim to believe the Bible) also claim that the earth existed for millions of years before man "appeared". They do this by jumping through "Original Language" hoops in the Old Testament mostly. You know...day doesn't mean day...etc., etc., etc............ I'm under no impression that this Biblical evidence will change the mind of a God-rejecting evolutionist, but I do wonder how in the world a Theistic-Evolutionist gets around this... Luke 1:67-70 67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying, 68 Blessed be …
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I have a question that I have had for some time. I am new to this board since the ffboard is now dead so dont assume all my posts will be this reaching. I ask it because the ramifications from it can explain a lot but few are willing to even consider the why. Why did all the breathing animals have to die? It was man who sinned yet the judgment was on everything breathing. The bible says in Gen 6:1-13 that all flesh was corrupted and violent. Both man and the animals needed to be destroyed. Why? I have some ideas that seem to fit but would like others opinions on the matter first. Thanks
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Hi All, Just wondering when you folks think the devil was created. Personally Because of Ezekiel 28:15 and a Genesis 1:5, I Believe he was created after the first day and before Genesis 3 Verses are Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. The Devil was created in a day, first day was in Genesis 1:5. Any Bible based Opinions are appreciated. Bro I.
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I have a question that I hope someone here can help me with. Through the Gospel of Matthew along with the writings of Josephus and Tertullian we can place the birth of Jesus sometime between 7 - 2 B.C. He had to be born before Herod the Great died which many place in March of 4 B.C. Based on the above and known errors in the Gregorian calendar (which cannot be entirely and accurately quantified) I have come to the belief that Jesus was born some time in the fall of 2 B.C. and Herod died in 1 B.C. following a lunar eclipse (see Josephus), but I am not dogmatic on these dates. Here is the question. In Luke's account Jesus was born during a census decreed by Augustus dur…
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Our public schools and even the media assume that evolution is fact, and not theory. I, for one, am tired of the innuendos and references to the "billions" of years that the process was supposed to have taken. I hope this "spoof" can be useful to someone in combating the dangerous and foolish teachings that are promoted in our society today, among young and old people alike. The Way it Was? Once upon a time, eons and eons ago, (no one knows how long ago it was), there was a mass of energy (no one knows where it came from) floating around in nothingness (no one knows where). After about a zillion years, it exploded and particles of this energy scattered throughout …
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Arguments for the Existence of God I. Cause Isa. 43:7, 21; Eccl. 12:13; Micah 6:8; Acts 17: 26-28; 1 John 3:23; Rev. 4:11; (Eccl. 9:9), A reason for creation. Purpose; a plan must have a “planner”. II. Design Gen. 1:26; “After our image”. Creation shows a progression from good, to better, to best. This is accomplished by design; growth does not happen accidentally. III. Being Isa. 45:22, 46:9; Hos. 11:9; Ex. 3:14; Job 38 (entire chapter); Gen. 1:26, 2:7; John 1:3. Where did life come from? What is light made of? How could the separation of waters happen accidentally? IV. Intellectual Nature Rom. 2:15 The ability to think and …
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I asked this in another thread; but because the question was a bit off topic from the original post no provided any opinion or answer. In which Biblical time period do most Bible scholars (the good IFB ones) believe the dinosaurs existed? Was it Adam and Eve's days or just prior to Noah's flood? Have there been any human remains or fossils found near the dinosaurs fossils at the same geological strata?
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(PhysOrg.com) -- Neanderthals used makeup and jewellery challenging the idea that they were cognitively inferior to early modern humans, according to research published in the Proceedings in the National Academy of Sciences today. Radiocarbon dating by researchers at Oxford University suggests that pigment-stained and perforated marine shells were almost certainly used as pendants by Neanderthals in Spain 50,000 years old. ... (more) http://www.physorg.com/news182439329.html yep, they have the capability as modern humans. just that ideas haven't evolve yet so that's why they seem "stupid" (according the title of the article). Sometimes I think animals are just as brig…
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I thought I'd try to see how pictures and illstrations will work on this new format. Haven't seen it elsewhere yet. A human sandal print stepping on a trilOBite. PrOBlem; trilOBites are supposed to have become extinct 180 million yrs ago. A fossil leaf extending through several layers of varves...which are supposedly laid down slowly over millions of yrs. So much for that theory. Agate Springs, Nebraska; Thousands of animals found fossilized together in one place. Did all these animals migrate to the same high elevation 4,500 ft and die together at the same time and become fossilized instantly because nature led them there? Or were they creatures seeking high…
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One of the most brilliant minds, if not THE most brilliant, in modern history, wrote these words... "This most beautiful System of the Sun, Planets and Comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being ... He is Eternal and Infinite, Omnipotent and Omniscient; that is, his duration reaches from Eternity to Eternity; his presence from Infinity to Infinity; he governs all things, and knows all things that are or can be done." ~ Sir Issac Newton, General Scholium/Principia*(1729) Vol. 2, pp. 388-90 " The extraordinary mind and works of Sir Isaac Newton are, no doubt. part of the fullfillment of Daniel's prophecy: "But thou, O…
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I have never heard anyone present such valid arguments for the Existence of God better than William Lane Craig. Paul writes in Romans 1:20, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" Well, William Lane Craig validates and expounds on this with arguments that are irrefutable such as morality and the creation of the universe. The Existence of God Love, Madeline
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Arguments for the Existence of God (Scientific and Biblical) I. Cause Isa. 43:7, 21; Eccl. 12:13; Micah 6:8; Acts 17: 26-28; 1 John 3:23; Rev. 4:11; (Eccl. 9:9), A reason for creation. Purpose; a plan II. Design Gen. 1:26; ?After our image? The creation shows a progression from good to better to best. This is done only by design. Stages if growth do not happen accidently. III. Being Isa. 45:22, 46:9; Hos. 11:9; Ex. 3:14; Job 38 (entire chapter); Gen. 1:26, 2:7; John 1:3. Where did life come from? What is light made of? How can separation of waters happen by evolution? IV. Intellectual Nature Rom. 2:15 The ability to think…
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Enjoy this 10 minute video. =) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZxUGop-p3k&feature=related In Christ ~ Molly
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Well, it's been awhile. But I just returned from a trip in the southwest with my wife and I got a close look at some very interesting things I would like to share with my friends here on Online Baptist. First picture: Agate Springs, Nebraska (talk about the middle of nowhere? Wow). There is a great fossil bed there where in more than one place fossils of animals are found by the thousands buried together at high elevation. This picture was taken through the big picture window of the museum at Agate Springs while I was talking to the park service host. She gave me the usual evolutionary explanation that the animals died there after fighting over one of the few remain…
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........Koko, JoJo and Bonzo Architects? Somebody needs to point out to this guy that even 'lower' forms of life like honeybees, birds, beavers and termites build things which are FAR more complex and have much more highly 'advanced' design than a chimpanzee can do. I watched a nature film which showed a crab grabbing sea anemones and carefully placing them onto it's shell, to protect itself from predators. Another one showed a bird actually sewing leaves together, stitching them with strands from spider webs to make it's nest. Speaking of spider webs; what about the engineering that goes into one? What about the perfect rows of hexagons in a honeycomb? Or the amazing…
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God or science? A belief in one weakens positive feelings for the other A person's unconscious attitudes toward science and God may be fundamentally opposed, researchers report, depending on how religion and science are used to answer "ultimate" questions such as how the universe began or the origin of life. What's more, those views can be manipulated, the researchers found. After using science or God to explain such important questions, most people display a preference for one and a neutral or even negative attitude toward the other. This effect appears to be independent of a person's religious background or views, says University of Illinois psychology professor J…
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Hi everyone. Here's a link to probably the best site I've found online with scientific information from the creationist viewpoint. Most of the stuff is downloadable. The "Evolution Cruncher" is really nice. Enjoy! http://www.evolutionfacts.com/index.htm Bill
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I just saw this in an Answers From Genesis newsletter: Q: Did Jesus allow for a gap? A: If you carefully study the words of Jesus, He made it plain that there can?t be a gap of billions of years between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. In Mark 10:6, Jesus said, ?But from the beginning of creation God made them male and female.? In these very words, Jesus clearly teaches that Adam and Eve were created in ?the beginning of the creation??not after billions of years had passed. Also, the expression ?beginning of the creation? rules out any ?re-creation? or ?second start? as taught by many gap theorists. There is much more here: http://www.answersingenesis.org/creatio ... theory.a…
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[bible]1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? 2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? 3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? 4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? 5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens? 6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? 7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears? 8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more. 9 Behold, the hope of him…
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Welcome aboard, Helen. We only have one son, but are thankful that he is serving the Lord. Fellowship with like-minded folks is always sweet. -
If we really want to split hairs we shouldn't call it the KJV or the AV since it was not called that in the beginning. Neither title caught on until years later. Not until 1814 was it even called the KJV -
Acts 2 [19] And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: [20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: [21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Not the synoptic gospels but authored by Luke nonetheless.
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Yes, Sureword, the changes in 1762 and 1769 were correcting printing errors and standardizing spelling - so for all practical purposes, the 1769 is the same as the 1611, but with those changes (which do not change meaning). I think if we need to clarify it because we are speaking about our English Bible’s history (and perhaps even discussing some of the modern attempts at editing the KJV to show that these other “re-translations” - for lack of a better word - are not the same - referring to ones such as the Modern KJV, KJV21, etc.), then mention the date - but otherwise I think it is simply just unnecessary. Most Christians that I have come across that use the KJV just assume it is the 1611, even if they aren’t aware of what “changes” were made in the 1760’s. -
True Christians will suffer tribulation, be persecuted, be martyred for their faith. This has happened all through history - and even now is happening in some other countries (maybe not much in North America) - so there is no need for true Christians to go through the Great Tribulation (ie. in the sense that “they are not undergoing persecution and tribulation now” - but they are, just not here - and who is to say there won’t be greater tribulation and persecution as this world turns further and further from God and His Word). Also, from several passages, it is clear that the whole seven year tribulation period is a time of God’s wrath. The Lord Jesus Christ has already endured the wrath for our sins and has promised we will not face it. We would be enduring it if we were here during those seven years.
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