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Genesis 1:28 KJV: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. I have been asked by a Ruckmanite about this verse. I know that my father and i went round and round about this verse and the one word "replenish" in particular. If the "Gap Theory" isn't correct, then what is the resoning behind this particular word being used in the English (KJVO) translation?
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Here is the equation for determining the age of an object. Lu-Hf isochrons plotted of meteorite samples. The age is calculated from the slope of the isochron (line) and the original composition from the intercept of the isochron with the y-axis. The mathematical expression that relates radioactive decay to geologic time is D* = D0 + N(t) (eĪ»t ā 1) where t is age of the sample, D* is number of atoms of the radiogenic daughter isotope in the sample, D0 is number of atoms of the daughter isotope in the original or initial composition, N(t) is number of atoms of the parent isotope in the sample at time t (the present), given by N(t) = N0eāĪ»t, and Ī» is…
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We Christians, donāt believe in the Big Bang theory, but when God the creator, created the heaven and earth, was there a big bang going on here, or was it all done in silence.
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This is a true story from my area... Recently, a group of college students from a nearby university volunteered to "help" at a nearby elementary school. Unbeknownst to the school's administration, the college students spent their time preaching evolution to the children. They even had an "altar call" when it was over...asking that if they (the elementary children) believed what they had just heard, to just raise their hands. Apparently all but one child was "saved" ... In other words, all but one child raised their hands to acknowledge that they believed in evolution. I'm not sure at this point what (if any) repercussions will…
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As a scientist and researcher, and as a missionary for fifty some years... I have to tell you from ebing in maybesix or seven evolution/creation forums or supposed discussion boards, that evolution is unscientific and has no basis in biology, genetics, chemistry, math or physics... Evolution is totally bogus and a forced religion. This is why it is forced and not allowed to be questioned and why evolutionists have no idea what they believe nor why. They have no proofs, and no evidence. They say they do, but cant produce it when challenged. Whereas creationism is scientific and is based on laws and cycles and adaptations, instincts, balance, harmony...all given…
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I am coming across more and more Christians who believe the Earth is anywhere from 20K to 250 billion years old. What Biblical basis would they possibly have for such beliefs? I could possibly understand the 20K range, but longer? It's highly debatable. I don't understand where they could get such a notion. Any reasonable explanations in your minds?
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I took this photo of this tree, location, Lake Eola, Orlando, Florida. Can you share a photo of a beautiful tree? Thanks, and enjoy Godās creation.
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Here are some photos of my website with the evangelist Eric Hovind, I enjoy his ministry, and have the privilege to take these photos through the years with him, while he is teaching and preaching. The photos were taken at Eastland Baptist church in Orlando, Florida. creationtoday.org / thegloryland.com
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We are living in trouble times, when we have to tell someone, what you are. E. Morales ( He Him Only)
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HOW OLD IS THE EARTH? By Bill Sizemore February 20, 2009 NewsWithViews.com Many Christians are under the impression that if you believe the Bible, then you must believe that the earth is 6,000 years old. But is this so? Christians come to the 6,000 year conclusion, not based on something the Bible says about the age of the earth, but by tracking the biblical genealogies from Jesus back to Adam, which add up to about 4,000 years, and then adding in the 2,000 years from Christ until now. From a biblical perspective, this approach tells us approximately how long man has been around, but as we shall see, it does not necessarily tell us how long the earth has be…
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On Subjects such as Evolution, Many Americans Are Aware of -- but Reject -- the Scientific Consensus by David Masci, Senior Research Fellow, Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life August 27, 2007 The relationship between faith and science in the United States seems, at least on the surface, to be paradoxical. Surveys repeatedly show that most Americans respect science and the benefits it brings to society, such as new technologies and medical treatments. And yet, religious convictions limit many Americans' willingness to accept controversial scientific theories as well as certain types of scientific research, such as the potential use of embryonic stem cells for medi…
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John Lightfoot, a 17th Century cleric and scholar of Hebrew, determined that the creation had occurred on October 26, 4004 B.C. at 9 a.m
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The Ordinances of Heaven Job 38:33, āKnowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth? An ordinance is an established law or rule. Astronomer and mathematician, Johannes Kepler 1571-1630, verified that the sun and the planets are governed by scientific laws, or ordinances. Johannes Kepler was a devout Christian. Kepler believed that God created the universe as the Bible says He did. Psalm 119: 90 & 91, āThy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth. They continue this day according to thine ordinances: for all are thy servants.ā All of the ordinances of the physical universe were estab…
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This is interesting - @DaveW, have you heard about this? In September 2018, a 20-strong team of palaeontologists and volunteers gathered near Karoola homestead in Central West Queensland to rescue a slew of dinosaur footprints (figure 1).1,2,3Over 20 days, they excavated endangered tracks from a dry creek bed and moved them some 100 km to the Australian Age of Dinosaurs Museum near Winton, founded by Executive Chairman, David Elliott. Australian vertebrate palaeontologist Dr Stephen Poropat of Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne is leading the research work. The tracks were first exposed 20 years before when floods altered the course of the creek. Al…
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I was thinking about something that bothered my last night. Some of you may have heard about how the Bombadeer beetle, or other creatures with unique characteristics that refute evolutionary process, for example the long neck of the giraffe: It is my understanding that the giraffe has two different organs in it's neck, 1 to keep blood in the brain, and another to keep blood from flowing into the brain, these two organs must both be present in order for the giraffe not to die when raising and lowering it's head. therefore the 2 organs and the neck of the giraffe must "evolve" at the same time. I have often heard this used to debunk darwinian evolution. 1. where did the m…
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For a Christian, the phrase, "What came first, the chicken or the egg?" is a simple answer: the chicken of course! Genesis 1:21 - "And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good." For an evolutionist, the answer is .... complicated. I saw this video on youtube and thought they did a good job describing how a chick can breathe inside it's egg. The entire process of a chick forming is very intricate, but looking at just the shell of the egg and how it was created to protect the forming chick inside as well as provid…
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The 7 days of Genesis & 7,000 years old earth view (Ps. 90:4, II Pet. 3:8)), have you heard this? A full Download here of all historical citations - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=88323982112145612890 For instance (summary): In Matthew 13, Jesus gives several related parables, about the work of a laborer, sowing in the field and then reaping. According to Holy scripture, the workweek is six days long, with one of rest at the end (Exodus 20:8-11; &c). Therein, the āfieldā is identified with the āworldā, and the sowing of the gospel seed for those six days. The harvest is the end, but notice in St. Matthew 13:3…
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One of the problems of not accepting a literal interpretation of Genesis is that, Genesis being so foundational for so much of what we believe, we can easily go astray on vital matters. 3 examples will suffice: 1. Edmund Gosse was born to a Christian couple in 1849. His mother went to be with Christ when he was still a boy. His Father raised him in the "nurture and admonition of the Lord" and he made a strong profession of faith in Christ. However, he had serious problems accepting Genesis and, eventually, went right away from the Lord. 2. Charles Templeton was a preacher alongside Billy Graham in the 1940s. However, he started to doubt Genesis and this…
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Problems with Evolution (I hope this works......)
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I was having a discussion with a new friend a few weeks ago and the subject of Theistic Evolutionism came up. Apparently, she believed in it, but I didn't know that. She asked me if I thought that it was possible for God to have used Evolutionism to bring about things. I told her, "Not the God of the Bible." She asked me why I said that and I replied, "Because Evolutionism has a long string of deaths bringing man into existence, but the Bible says that one man brought death into existence. (Romans 5:12, 15, 17, 1 Corinthians 15:21). I didn't make a presentation out of it; I said it in about 30 seconds or so. I wasn't expecting the affect it would have. She jus…
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I heard this over thirty years ago on a late night AM radio station. (Genesis 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." The very first verse of the King James Bible contains a trinity of trinities consisting of time, space and matter. "In the beginning" = Time (Past Present Future) "God created the heaven" = Space (Length Width Height) "and the Earth" = Matter (Solid Liquid Gas) I just love things like this.
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Someone shared this video on facebook and I thought it was interesting. I had not heard of the Caddisfly before, but apparently fly fishermen have! What I found interesting is that the Caddisfly larvae have the ability to build themselves a protective covering, binding it together with a sticky silk they produce. In the video they call it "evolution". However, when I looked these critters up on wikipedia, they've been found in fossil records that date back over '250 million years ago', with nary a change. My thought is, why did the Caddisfly larvae 'evolve' the ability to secrete sticky silk to bind together debris for protection, rather than 'evolve' a shell like a sna…
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Scientists are now breathing life into the concept of chimeras by creating organisms containing the cells of humans and animals. Several teams in the US are inserting human tissue into early pig and sheep embryos. The journal MIT Technology Review estimates that 20 such hybrid embryos have been produced, an early proof-of-principle step towards growing human organs inside animal tissue. The hybrid embryos have been observed in early development but, crucially, are never brought to term. The Salk Institute in California, together with the universities of Stanford and Minnesota, are among the institutions pioneering the as-yet-unpublished research. http://www.ft.com/intl/c…
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My phone just showed me this site: http://religionnews.com/2016/06/11/why-some-evangelicals-changed-their-minds-about-evolution/ A group going to churches to promote the idea that science and the Bible are not mutually exclusive, but only because the Bible doesn't mean what it says. I agree that the Bible and science are not mutually exclusive but that is because the more you study science, the more you find that it fits with the Bible actually says.
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By Joe Chandler · Posted
I think we would all benefit from a definition of terms. Covenant theology is a systematic theology. Dispensationalism is a systematic theology. Systematic theology has a doctrine, build on certain principles that lead a man to interpret the bible according to those principles. Dispensationalism breaks down the world into times or dispensations. Calvinism breaks down the bible by covenants. There appears to be no system to Stewardship and therefore it is not a theology. I listened to the entire video and agree with the idea that we are to be stewards of the mysteries of God. Bro Shifflet does not seem to be advocating for any theology at all. I would further say that any Dispensationalist or Calvinist would agree that we are to be stewards of the mysteries of God, but would interpret that within the confines of their respective systematic theologies. How any of that determines whether the angels in Revelation are actual angels or just messengers I cannot fathom. How stewardship determines whether of not Israel and the church are separate does not make any sense to me at all. Stewardship Theology does not exist as a systematic theology and therefore anybody can claim to be a Stewardship theologist and it means nothing. -
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Well, we will have to disagree on these two issues. I agree with the solid fundamentalist preachers and commentators of the past who teach both positions I have stated above. I have been blessed too much by seeing Christ in the OT passages that speak of the Angel of the Lord to let anyone else take them from me. Genesis 48:15-16 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day, The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth. Hm, the second person of the Trinity is called the Angel which redeemed me in this passage (referring specifically to the Angel of the Lord that Jacob encountered) - ouch! Guess I believe Godās Word over a new position. -
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These are all examples of substitution by assertion. There is no verse that indicates they were called sons and several that indicate they are never called sons.Ā Ā There are only assertions made by teachers. No verse actually shows this and one passage as shown above that clearly shows He is not. This shows the power of assertion even in light of clear passages to the contrary. And many of us are guilty of it in some way or another because we just assumed it was so. Until we can deal with all the scriptures as they are written, (not just about angels and God's sons) our doctrine will be lacking. Ā -
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Is it wrong? Isn't it up to each church to decide? Personally I believe there should be a baptism pretty close to the salvation decision. But, with the level of people's misunderstanding of baptism and what it really means, I can understand the length of time some churches take in allowing such. Is it ridiculous in having people understanding what they are doing?
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