I am all about submission, but oh my word!!!!

[ptwild]

I'm thinking that this site is done by Christians who want to justify their kink! It's too bad they have to make claims that their intimate preferences are at the direction of Lord. Why don't they just admit they like this stuff in the bouduair and leave it at that. It's really nobody's business anyway.

I just read this thread and I have to say it is very strange. I agree with the above quoted post. If it is consensual and a part of a married couples private intimacy with one another (which is what I suspect is behind the practice) then why do they think they have to make some claim of Godly justification. If they're married, its consensual and they enjoy it, then keep it behind the bedroom door. No harm, no foul, and no need to make unbiblical claims regarding it.

[BlessedChristianlady8]

I leave for a month and I come back and Domestic submission is in the threads Sorry but I am not going there. I gets me angry they put that as Christians. I have a friend that knows someone that went into a relationship like this and it saddens me.

[John81]

[Wilchbla]

John, Didn't you know that everyone in America is a Christian?

[deputydog530]

I cant believe this thread is still going.

[Guest Guest]

I don't think Jerry was doing that much leaping...

Not in his proclaiming of righteousness, but in his analogy - yes he was.

A few years ago a "famous" porn actress, who is the daughter of a preacher, said in an interview that she is a Christian...

Yes, and I could also say that I'm a bodybuilder, but that doesn't make it true.

True enough, her arguments could be shot down, but the point is that this woman truly believes what she's saying and she's not alone.

Yes, they could be "shot down" because Scripture is openly and obviously against that lifestyle. Annie's question was WHERE did Scripture condemn the subject of this thread. It doesn't matter what someone truly believes because the only foundation of truth is found in God's Word, and therefore is not relative to opinion or personal belief. It is a common practice for Christians to say "Well the Bible's agin' it!" and not be able to show where it is, exactly. With porn, you and I (and anyone with half of a brain for reading-comprehension) could go to a multitude of passages and point out the sin. It is not so readily obvious with the subject at hand. Ergo Annie's question and a flawed analogy.

In any event, I don't think Jerry was going too far out there with what he said.

So you said. :Green

[lettheredeemedsayso]

If marriage is a picture of Christ and his Bride the church, how would this activity fit into that picture?

[Guest Guest]

If marriage is a picture of Christ and his Bride the church' date=' how would this activity fit into that picture?[/quote']

Now THAT is a good analogy. :smile

[HappyChristian]

Isn't the church chastened when they are disobedient, though? I'm sure that if you spoke with a CD follower, they would remind us that we are chastened when we disobey the Lord. We are children of the Heavenly King, and we are the Bride of Christ.

Vir is right there is no scripture that condemns this. If someone wants to do this in the privacy of their own bedroom, we really have nothing to gainsay it with - because if it were private, we wouldn't know, right? But it has been made very public, and these people obviously want converts...else, why put it on the internet?

I think if we look closely at scripture, we would find principles in the relationship between husband and wife that would show us that this isn't a wise course of action. Simply look at the verse that tells the husband to love his wife as himself...how many of you men spank yourselves? None, of course. How many of the CD men spank themselves? We would most likely be pretty safe in assuming that the same ratio holds - none!
I know it's my personal opinion, but it's based on studying the husband/wife relationship in scripture for many years. CCD just doesn't fit! Especially publicized, bragged about CD.

[speerjp1]

Christian "liberty" is primarily used as a reason for professing Christians to both do and enjoy things that are obviously unwise, but not explicitly condemned in the Bible.

Our liberty is in Christ. We are free from the bonds of sin to bring glory to God-- not free from rules, principles, and commandments (given by God) to be participants in the foolishness of this world. :2cents

[Guest Kris]

I do not agree with this. I do not believe it to be truth as they so put it. Truth can be supported with God's Word (KJV)
I noticed they did not provide any supporting scripture to their so called truth. No where have I read where it is alright to beat your wife. Even when they referred to scripture it did not have that referencing verse written. As well they were not will to defend their views to anyone. only answer the questions of those who wanted more information.

[His by Grace]

Question only! If we all agree this isn't how a husband should discpline his wife. Then what does a husband do --Biblically--to discipline his wife? Maybe she doesn't think it's needed and he does. Wouldn't it be wrong not to submt to the discipline--if Biblical. Because it was Eve that was decieved not Adam.

[futurehope]

For those who seem to think that this is not condemned by scripture, take the following in the context it was give and decide for yourselves if it is "covered by scripture".

1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Do you beat your sister for her faults?? It's the same thing. Your wife is your sister.

Colossians 3
5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

----inordinate affection would include this disgusting act if it is being used as a manner of sexual perversion as some of you have suggested --

6 For which things sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another