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  1. I loved my KJV Cambridge Study Bible. The cross-references and notes were on target, relevant, helpful. I regretfully sold it with my library.
  2. I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you, but may I ask how you substantiate that the KJV is the 'pure word of God'? And which version of the KJV are you referring to?
  3. When reading and translating from the Greek I have always found that Vaticanus and the Alexandrian texts fall short. I think that Wescott-Hort should be rejected altogether.
  4. I'm mainly wondering how English speaking people came to know the Gospel before the KJV Bible was published, because faith comes from hearing the word of God. I'm quit sure there were many saved English speaking people before the KJV, so they must have heard the word of God somewhere, the inspired word of God which He used to lead people to Jesus and salvation. And if the inspired word of God in the English language existed before the KJV Bible was published, then the KJV is not the only inspired English translation.
  5. 1Cor 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. I don't think Paul was speaking with a royal 'we', or a royal 'our' for that matter. As in 1Cor 12:13 'we were all baptized into one body.' Christ has one body, not many local bodies but many local Churches. Individual Christians are each a member of Christ's one body. We certainly are part of local congregations, comprised of many members, but still all in one body of Christ. Eph 4:4 "There is one body and one Spirit." Eph 5:6 "because we are members of His body." Col 3:15 "to which indeed you were called in one body." In our modern day vernacular some refer to a local 'body' of believers, but I don't think that is a technically or doctrinally correct way to use body.
  6. "and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable," (1Co 12:23). Paul said 'we bestow' and 'our less presentable members', and he was not a member of the Church at Corinth, so I take it that Paul was talking about the entire body of Christ in 1Cor 12. Also I am not aware that the Lord appointed apostles at Corinth, yet Paul says, "and God has appointed in the church, first apostles ..." (1Co 12:28). Again, Paul must have been speaking about the entire Church everywhere when he wrote 1Cor 12. I equate baptism by the Spirit to be His endwelling individual believers when they first believe, and not necessarily evidenced by tongues or fire.
  7. If water baptism is into a local Church, what happens when someone moves and joins another Church? Is he baptized into the new Church by a transfer letter? I understand water baptism to be a public identification with Jesus Christ, and secondarily by default with whatever local Church baptizes him.
  8. Are there English or other language translations of the New Testament Greek that both predate the KJV and are recognized as inspired translations?
  9. "and be raised up on the third day." (Mat 16:21) To be resurrected "on" the third day is to be resurrected during that very day, during any portion of that day. If Jesus' body was dead three full 24-hour periods, then He would have been raised on the fourth day.
  10. To put things into perspective I began by stating, "I'm curious if anyone equates patriotic conservatism with Christianity." I'm also interested in hearing his answer. Clean cups and platters were not an outward indication of their hearts. I see flags and statues of liberty in the sanctuary as an outward indication of people confusing or conflating or intertwining patriotism with Christianity.
  11. Perhaps some do not 'set out'; but if ungodliness is assimilated someone did 'set out.' And when we discover that ungodliness is assimilated, we are responsible to unassimilate it.
  12. And yet, I was referring to a sanctuary - a specific place where Christians define as a place to gather for worship. If we ourselves designate a place to worship, we should not bring secular symbols or images of goddesses into that place.
  13. Sure, or [edited] gather elsewhere! And I would not assemble together with Muslims or Wiccans for the purpose of worship, as you yourself explained - 'a “church” is a calling out'. God has called us out of the world into a holy assembly of His believers.
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