DaveW

Or dealing with people..... I need no advice, no rebuke, no encouragement - the purpose is to give you a laugh, because that's about all that can be done. I have been preaching verse by verse through a book for adult Sunday School. Someone said to me that they don't come to Sunday School because they don't like that style of preaching. Morning service I am preaching through a list of questions that people put on a list for that purpose. Someone said to me that there has been some discussion and 'a few people' have mentioned that they are getting more out of the SS series than out of the "snippets"( their word) I am doing for the morning service, and that I should swap them. And apparently I am preaching too much about salvation. Yep, you read that right. Last few week's messages have had a mention of salvation, but as a portion, not the focus. You can please some of the people some of the time....... but you can't slap any of them anytime.

I miss the reasoned, godly voice and advice of my friend Alan. I miss his lessons posted here. I miss his input to the discussions. Mostly I miss his gentle advice, direction, and when necessary, rebukes. Pro 27:6(a) Faithful are the wounds of a friend; Pro 27:17 (17) Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. Although we never met face to face, I count him as a true friend, and look forward to the day when we do meet face to face, as we glory in the Lord together.

Long story short - the PNG government has changed the visa requirements for those at the clinic, and it has caused some problems. As a result it is difficult for new staff to get in, and some have had to leave. This all means that Hannah-Rose is now basically running the clinic. She is doing fine in most respects, misses her family and home church, but loves the work, the church there in Kotidanga, and loves the people she is working with and for.

Just trolling through old posts and found this one. Time for an update: Isaiah 29 currently. 2 years....... AM service is answering questions people are asking on a sign up sheet. Been very interesting so far. PM is nominally "Ships". (But this can be anything from Noah's Ark to fishing boats to friendSHIP and fellowSHIP). But 29 chapters in 100ish weeks....

I got a report from an evangelist friend who has been visiting Myanmar over the last several years. He is keeping in touch with his local Christian contacts and the other day got a report. It is certainly not improving from the reports earlier in this thread. Keep them in prayer.

Well, late last week they were able to fly up to the airstrip. First try on Friday was no good - cloud everywhere (Normal for PNG) and so the plane would not have been able to find the airstrip. They didn't even try. Saturday, they gave it a go, and the pilot said in 21 years of flying PNG he had NEVER seen it that clear.... Sunday, she was in Church at Kotidanga. She said the service was wonderful and she was able to follow the general line of the message - understood enough of the language to "sort of follow it". This week she ahs been observing clinic, in the mornings and having intensive language studies in the afternoons. She is a little overwhelmed, but loving it. This is what the Lord made her for. The others at the clinic are wonderful, and have all been through this already of course, so they are helping her out, and apparently loving her being there already. Thanks for the prayers folks.

My Hannah-Rose has made it through the boredom of 2 weeks quarantine in a hotel in Port Moresby, and is currently spending the day with the missionaries, getting to know them and making last minute preparations before flying up to the Kotidanga region on Friday (that will be Thursday night for most of you!) The flight is by a single engined small transport - typically a Pilatus Porter or similar for those who care, and the airstrip on the mountain is slightly larger than a postage stamp. The pilots who fly in such places are absolute heroes. A one hour flight, assuming the weather is good enough and clear to the stirp, then followed by a 5 mile hike to Kunai. By the time you wake on Friday morning she will be just about ready to go to sleep in her quarters after a long, exciting and no doubt stressful day. Then she will start with the work.

Kunai health clinic is in the northern Highlands, although about 5 years ago she went to the southern highlands for a couple of weeks, so she has an idea of what she is getting into. The Clinic is under the administration of some US missionaries, and it is a ministry of Kotidanga Baptist Church, which is the local IB church, pastored by a PNG national. She has now landed in Port Moresby, and is currently en route to the hotel where she will have to quarantine for two weeks. After that, she will spend a little time with the missionaries, John and Lena, before heading up to her new home for the next 12 months at least.

My daughter, Hannah-Rose is a registered nurse. She has left Perth this afternoon to fly to Brisbane and then on to Port Morseby, Papua New Guinea. She will be serving at Kunai health clinic. The clinic is an independent baptist missionary run clinic with the purpose of reaching the people of the Kotidanga region and beyond for the Lord. I would appreciate prayer for her travel and for her service for the Lord into the future. Regards, DaveW

Every day I check the church website there are junk feedback entries - between 8 and 16 at least once a day and sometimes twice. Usually they are trying to tell me how to make squillions from bitcoin, sometimes trying to sell me pharmaceuticals cheap, sometimes offering to be my wife. I also get emails from all sorts trying the same things and also trying to give me a few million that was left to them for a good cause by their great uncle who was the treasurer of some place or another. Thankfully I can just delete them, but it does take time, and it is annoying. And because they come from all sorts of different emails there is no way to block them. So part of my day is spent getting rid of useless junk I didn't ask for. 21st century problems...…..

So what DO you hope to achieve by posting about church that you have never heard of before, that will have no influence on you or your church, and that is based half the world away? I don't understand.....

You are making claims that are not proven by Bible verses, making vague references to vague passages, where you say they mean one thing, but there is no correlation of what you are saying with the vague references you give. I have been able to find the verses and passages that you refer to because I am able to use a search engine, but with each verse I identify, it doesn't say what you are suggesting. And you join passages together that have no reason to be joined together. If you were serious about stating your case, then you would at least give proper verse references for each of your claims, but it seems to me that you don't want people to find the passages you refer to in case they actually read them and find that they don't actually say what you are saying. At one point you say "Let me copy it word for word..." but then you leave off the reference, and the passage has no apparent link to anything you are saying - at least as far as I can tell. You talk about the harvest is ripe, but give no reference to it, but have you actually read Revelation 14? (verse 15 for anyone reading this, because He doesn't want to tell you). It is nto relevant to your point. Classic example of what I am talking about (but this time he at least gives a reference!): " quote from TomB: Jesus said finally in Luke 21:36 pray always that yes me counted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass and stand before the Son of man. when he comes in his glory he shall separate the sheep from the goats and place the sheep on his right hand and the goats on the left.... " Note that quoting in this way is implying that the verses are somehow joined together - he is almost trying to make it look like line 3 is a continuation from the end of line 2. THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME BOOK! (Note that I am not criticising the spelling mistakes - we all do that.) The complete verse is: Luk 21:36 (36) Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. I don't know why he chose to leave out the "Watch ye therefore" but he did. I will however say that the verse he quoted has nothing to do with goats or sheep as far as Luke is concerned. If there is a link between these two subjects as he implies, it is not obvious from the Luke passage. In fact if you look up the sheep/goats reference you find the only reference to goats and sheep being separated to be in: Mat 25:31-33 (31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: (32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: (33) And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. I will note again that he refused to share that reference - I think because it has nothing to do with Luke as he is trying to imply. Folks, please don't listen to this guy until he starts to properly quote or at least reference his passages, and explain the links that he is suggesting, because he is joining things together that the Bible simply does not put together. And THEN, check his references - as you should with EVERY PERSON who presumes to teach you about the Bible.

Exactly the point - what is "big enough" for you to stop fellowshipping with someone? Or is the whole concept wrong? Just a topic for discussion...…..

What are people's thoughts over separating from fellowship with someone over doctrinal matters?