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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

What preachers do you listen to? Are they heretical?

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Why would I willfully tune my heart to heresy? But to answer your question, and to ignore the rhetoric. 
I listen to my Pastor, and I do enjoy the man ‘Spencer Smith’ on YouTube. And Then I listen to a podcast called ‘Enjoying the journey’ by ‘Scott Pauley’


 

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Thanks for posting this!

Justin Peters has several videos exposing these frauds for what they really are.

My aunts and uncles were raised believing they are Baptist, but don't have a clue what it means to be one. They don't attend church or read their bibles but are always sharing some "inspirational"  quote on Facebook by one of those false teachers.

It is very disheartening to know so many claiming to be Christian can support any of these people. 

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49 minutes ago, Hugh_Flower said:

Why would I willfully tune my heart to heresy? But to answer your question, and to ignore the rhetoric. 
I listen to my Pastor, and I do enjoy the man ‘Spencer Smith’ on YouTube. And Then I listen to a podcast called ‘Enjoying the journey’ by ‘Scott Pauley’


 

Spencer Smith is hilarious at times. I like him too.

1 hour ago, BrotherTony said:

I've come across many Baptist pastors and parishoners who listen to the speakers in this clip on a regular basis. They are being filled with the heretical teachings of these people. I pray they'll learn from this clip.

 

My brother's wife like a lot of these "Christian celebrities". If I say anything from the bible they've never mentioned she'll reject it off hand. I still love her in the Lord but I don't bother trying to show her anything from the bible.

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Many here know my stand on local church, for me that is the only exposure I need. I do  not and never have found nay need to go outside of my local church.

Listening or watching these other preachers is extremely dangerous, especially for new believers, they are the most impressionable and easily influenced.

It was not a light thing when Jesus warned about these wolves in sheep's clothing.

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1 hour ago, Jim_Alaska said:

Many here know my stand on local church, for me that is the only exposure I need. I do  not and never have found nay need to go outside of my local church.

Listening or watching these other preachers is extremely dangerous, especially for new believers, they are the most impressionable and easily influenced.

It was not a light thing when Jesus warned about these wolves in sheep's clothing.

I agree and stand with you… However, I was once a Presbyterian, and then became a Catholic, and then an IFB KJVONLY Pre-Millenial Pre-Rapture Dispensationalist Church Age, etc. 

However, I question my self if God was trying to take me there anyway, and I decided to find the patch of bramble as my pathway.

This isn’t a counter argument or me playing devils advocate, but simply pointing at the truth of my life and comparing it to the truth of your words… and it does match! But the Lord is great and made it work anyway!

 

 

 

 

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To be honest, many years back I used to listen to John Hagee, Steven Furtick, and a myriad of other preachers. But, the more I listened to several of them, the more I had to start drawing back from them, finally not listening to them at all. Hagee made many a claim that was anti-scriptural, one of them right in the above clip. Joel Osteen, whom I have never been fond of, is listened to by several in my family. I've pointed out time and again the heretical statements and his lack of a true witness for the Lord Jesus Christ, and I have been rebuffed several times. Uff dah! 

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The man I would love to hear but cannot is Carlyle Marney. He had a huge influence on my life. Unfortunately he died too young and before the Internet. So, are far too few recordings of his sermons on the Internet. 

Marney was one in an era of free-thinking preachers that produced people such as, Edward Hughes Pruden, Clarence Cranford, and Vernon Richardson, each of whom Stuart knew and counted as friends and colleagues. And, like them, his leading of public worship was of a style that evoked classical dignity in its ordering. There were no gimmicks; it was church. It was to be approached with awe—with “fear and trembling.”

There are many stories about Carlyle Marney. He was a Southern Baptist, but we never invited to preach at an SBC convention. He was asked to pray at one only once. His prayer was simple, short, truthful and, thus, highly irritated many. His prayer was, "Lord, make us as great as we think we are. In Jesus name, amen.

The few times I heard him preach he caused me to reflect more than any other preacher I have heard. 

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I can't bring up the video, so I can't answer the initial query, but I enjoy listening to a site called Preach the Bible Classics, produced by North Valley Baptist Church, where they have compiled old sermons from IFB pastors, like John R. Rice and others. Some I like, some seem at the end of their time and give little more than a couple verses and stories, with little actual teaching or preaching. So it's a mixed bag.

I also listen to my old pastor, Doug Fisher from Lighthouse Baptist Church in San Diego, and many of the associate pastors from there. Being a pastor myself, I need to get some preaching from other trusted sources.

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5 hours ago, Ukulelemike said:

 

I also listen to my old pastor, Doug Fisher from Lighthouse Baptist Church in San Diego, and many of the associate pastors from there. Being a pastor myself, I need to get some preaching from other trusted sources.

Doug Fisher is a good preacher. I seen him preach at a revival in Ohio years ago. I had some cassette tapes of him also.

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3 hours ago, SureWord said:

Doug Fisher is a good preacher. I seen him preach at a revival in Ohio years ago. I had some cassette tapes of him also.

I've heard the name, but have never heard him preach. I would like to, though.

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On 7/22/2021 at 10:36 AM, BrotherTony said:

To be honest, many years back I used to listen to John Hagee, Steven Furtick, and a myriad of other preachers. But, the more I listened to several of them, the more I had to start drawing back from them, finally not listening to them at all. Hagee made many a claim that was anti-scriptural, one of them right in the above clip. Joel Osteen, whom I have never been fond of, is listened to by several in my family. I've pointed out time and again the heretical statements and his lack of a true witness for the Lord Jesus Christ, and I have been rebuffed several times. Uff dah! 

Yes Joel Osteen is very misleading to biblically illiterate people. 

The mindset he uses by insisting that it's better to talk about good instead sin is absurd, and one of the main reasons many local churches are losing members rapidly. If church is just a weekly feel good seminar than there's no reason you can't just stay home and watch Joel.

Several years ago there was church here that was very popular with people my age. One friend invited me to attend describing it as a "feel good seminar for the week with rock music". Of course I declined the invitation because that's not what I would consider a biblical church.

Never talking about sin is dangerous. Why would anyone feel the need to get saved if they keep hearing that God loves them just who they are? I think Pastors need to be cautious about be MORE forgiving than Jesus was. If people in the pews aren't feeling even slightly uncomfortable for serious sins because you don't want to offend anyone...then you are in the wrong profession. Every liberal "Christian" wants to try to overlook sin by claiming we are the type of people who would throw the first stone at the woman caught in adultery, but even after Jesus forgave her....they like to ignore that he told her to "go and sin no more".

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18 minutes ago, Disciple.Luke said:

Yes Joel Osteen is very misleading to biblically illiterate people. 

The mindset he uses by insisting that it's better to talk about good instead sin is absurd, and one of the main reasons many local churches are losing members rapidly. If church is just a weekly feel good seminar than there's no reason you can't just stay home and watch Joel.

Several years ago there was church here that was very popular with people my age. One friend invited me to attend describing it as a "feel good seminar for the week with rock music". Of course I declined the invitation because that's not what I would consider a biblical church.

Never talking about sin is dangerous. Why would anyone feel the need to get saved if they keep hearing that God loves them just who they are? I think Pastors need to be cautious about be MORE forgiving than Jesus was. If people in the pews aren't feeling even slightly uncomfortable for serious sins because you don't want to offend anyone...then you are in the wrong profession. Every liberal "Christian" wants to try to overlook sin by claiming we are the type of people who would throw the first stone at the woman caught in adultery, but even after Jesus forgave her....they like to ignore that he told her to "go and sin no more".

We have several in our family that listen to Osteen and his wife. They are saved, but they're not very active in church or in anything that has to do with spreading the Word. I appreciate that they like to have some "motivational" messages, but to just totally disregard the whole counsel of God for expediencies sake is detrimental to the Kingdom. Churches are disappearing or turning aside at alarming rates, and people like the Osteens are part of the reason. Christians today are doing just as the Bible said, looking for someone to "tickle their ears" with pleasant messsages and worldly music. It's time for a revival.

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2 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

We have several in our family that listen to Osteen and his wife. They are saved, but they're not very active in church or in anything that has to do with spreading the Word. I appreciate that they like to have some "motivational" messages, but to just totally disregard the whole counsel of God for expediencies sake is detrimental to the Kingdom. Churches are disappearing or turning aside at alarming rates, and people like the Osteens are part of the reason. Christians today are doing just as the Bible said, looking for someone to "tickle their ears" with pleasant messsages and worldly music. It's time for a revival.

We have a Disciples of Christ congregation here whose Pastor is a openly gay and married homosexual but when I their "advertisements" they come off as very traditional in belief. That congregation is growing and has influence with the city officials and the "elite" business people. 

Where I live was the headquarters for the Wesleyan Holiness denomination Church of God and where their main university is. They started out very conservative but have shift mostly to progressive or social gospel.

The church of Gods most prominent members are the Gaithers and Sandy Patty. I know they are not pastors or teachers but they still have influence...Bill and Gloria Gaither and Sandy Patty.

As far as televangelists Kenneth Copeland bothers me more than even Joel. It's no wonder people hate our faith so much when all they see are money diggers like Copeland, Duplantis, Dollar, and the rest of them.

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3 hours ago, Disciple.Luke said:

We have a Disciples of Christ congregation here whose Pastor is a openly gay and married homosexual but when I their "advertisements" they come off as very traditional in belief. That congregation is growing and has influence with the city officials and the "elite" business people. 

Where I live was the headquarters for the Wesleyan Holiness denomination Church of God and where their main university is. They started out very conservative but have shift mostly to progressive or social gospel.

The church of Gods most prominent members are the Gaithers and Sandy Patty. I know they are not pastors or teachers but they still have influence...Bill and Gloria Gaither and Sandy Patty.

As far as televangelists Kenneth Copeland bothers me more than even Joel. It's no wonder people hate our faith so much when all they see are money diggers like Copeland, Duplantis, Dollar, and the rest of them.

Copeland cracks me up. I know I should be upset by how he's a deceiver but he's so bonkers I feel anyone who is deceived by him wants to be. The Copeland "mashups" on YouTube are hilarious. I know, I guess I'm carnal in these matters but sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at these nut cases.

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5 minutes ago, SureWord said:

Copeland cracks me up. I know I should be upset by how he's a deceiver but he's so bonkers I feel anyone who is deceived by him wants to be. The Copeland "mashups" on YouTube are hilarious. I know, I guess I'm carnal in these matters but sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at these nut cases.

Oh I completely agree. I occasionally watch YouTube videos of these guys for entertainment purposes. The compilations they've done on Jim Bakker and his guest's are beyond normal and hilarious watching him trying to sell those food buckets for thousands of dollars. 

Copeland and hIs crew are on a different level. Between him, his wife, and Billy Bryne (spelling?)...I can't stand to watch them for more than ten minutes.

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I didn't have to go outside the church to hear the sermons of this guy; My former pastor was copying his transcripts off the internet and "preaching" them practically word for word. I would not recommend that to anyone, especially lost people and baby Christians. Has referred to himself as a "7 point" Calvinist.

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I have been listening to a childhood friend of mine, Pastor Darren Tharp, Pastor of the New Hope Baptist Church in Independence, MO. He's been a great encouragement to me over the past 18 months. 

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https://www.nhbaptist.com

I've also been listening to Pastor Redlin of the Pensacola Christian College's Campus Church.

http://www.Campuschurch.com

Jeff Redlin

CampusChurch.com

 

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My favourite preachers that I listen to on podcasts are J. Vernon McGee (Thru The Bible series - I am aware of the few spots he is off, so tune those parts out - but also his various sermons), Clarence Sexton, Alan Cairns and William McCrea. These last two are solid KJVonly Free Presbyterians - so some differences, but I have been blessed by literally hundreds and hundreds of their sermons over the years. In fact, Sexton and McCrea each have preached at the other's church various times over the years.

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17 minutes ago, Jerry said:

My favourite preachers that I listen to on podcasts are J. Vernon McGee (Thru The Bible series - I am aware of the few spots he is off, so tune those parts out - but also his various sermons), Clarence Sexton, Alan Cairns and William McCrea. These last two are solid KJVonly Free Presbyterians - so some differences, but I have been blessed by literally hundreds and hundreds of their sermons over the years. In fact, Sexton and McCrea each have preached at the other's church various times over the years.

These all are EXCELLENT preachers! I used to listen to the late Evangelist Dr. Paul Levin quite often. He was a family friend. I also was so privileged to hear Dr. Don Camp, Dr. Ron Comfort (also a personal family friend), and Dr. B. Myron Cedarholm. I have many tapes of these men. They have really had an affect on my life.

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