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    Saved in 3 tenses?

    Sister Rose, That is a worthy question, especially because it appears to contradict that which I posted above. However, the answer may be understood when one understands that the word “spirit” is used concerning mankind in two basically different ways throughout God’s Word . On the one hand, it is used to indicate the spirit-part of the human individual. This is seen in 1 Thessalonians 5:23, as follows, “And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” On the other hand, it is also used to indicate the attitude of the human individual. This is seen in passages such as the following: Proverbs 11:13 – “A talebearer revealeth secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit concealeth the matter.” Proverbs 14:29 – “He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.” Proverbs 15:13 – “A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.” 2 Corinthians 2:13 – “I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.” 2 Corinthians 7:13 – “Therefore we were comforted in your comfort: yea, and exceedingly the more joyed we for the joy of Titus, because his spirit was refreshed by you all.” 2 Corinthians 12:18 – “I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps?” I myself would contend that 2 Corinthians 7:1 is one of those occasions wherein the word “spirit” is used to indicate the attitude of the human individual. As such, we are required thereby to cleanse ourselves (through broken-hearted confession and repentance) from all sinful filthiness in our flesh (that is – in our outward actions) and in our spirit (that is – in our inward attitudes).
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    Refuting a Reasonable Arminian's Arguments Against Calvinism.

    Well said, very well said.
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    Refuting a Reasonable Arminian's Arguments Against Calvinism.

    1. On Total Depravity - The debate is NOT over whether sinful man is spiritually depraved/dead, or whether God must administer grace unto a lost sinner in order for a lost sinner to have the ability to come in faith unto Christ for salvation. Rather, the debate is by what form does God's grace take. A. The Calvinist - By regenerating grace, whereby God administers spiritual life unto the a lost sinner in order that by means of that spiritual life the lost sinner both can and will believe. B. The Arminian - By prevenient grace, whereby God enlightens all lost sinners within their hearts in order that by means of that spiritual enlightenment all lost sinners can believe. C. Myself - By drawing grace, whereby God draws from without upon the heart of a lost sinner in order that the lost sinner can believe as long, and only as long as God is drawing. 2. On Unconditional Election A. The Calvinist - Unconditionally by God's sovereign choice and nothing more. B. The Arminian - Conditionally by God's perfect foreknowledge whereby God foreknows that a lost sinner will place faith in Christ. C. Myself - Conditionally by God's perfect foreknowledge whereby God foreknows that a lost sinner will place faith in Christ. 3. On Limited Atonement A. The Calvinist - Certainly limited for the sake only of those whom God has prechosen. B. The Arminian - Not limited, but for the sake of all mankind, through which justification is applied only unto those who place faith in Christ. C. Myself - Not limited, but for the sake of all mankind, through which justification is applied only unto those who place faith in Christ. 4. On Irresistible Grace A. The Calvinist - God's regenerating grace is perfectly effectual and irresistible upon those whom He has chosen to administer it. B. The Arminian - God's prevenient grace is universal; but within the realm of that prevenient grace, His drawing grace is certainly resistible. C. Myself - God's drawing grace is certainly resistible. 5. On Perseverance of the Saints A. The Calvinist - All genuine believers through the life of God within them will certainly persevere in faithfulness unto the end of their lives. B. The Arminian - A believer had the gift of free will from God to choose faith in Christ for salvation, and retains the gift of free will from God to cast aside that faith for salvation. C. Myself - All genuine believers are eternal secure in Christ by God's power and Christ faithfulness, regardless of future choices. As per the above presentation, I am certainly MORE Arminian than I am Calvinist. However, as per the above presentation, I am NOT actually a five point Arminian, which means that I am NOT actually an Arminian.
  4. Welcome Brother (or Sister??) "EvangAlived," I also believe very strongly in precise handling of the Holy Scriptures for all of belief and behavior. I also can be quite forceful in expressing the Biblical evidences for a position that I hold. I also expect others to provide clear and precise BIBLICAL evidences for the position that they hold. Time restrictions often prevent me from engaging in every discussion that I might, especially with the manner of thoroughness (lengthiness??) in which I tend to engage. My advice -- Be BIBLICAL; have forceful conviction on Biblical evidence; but also be gracious in the engagement with others. If so, I believe that you will have found a good forum herein for your spiritual benefit.
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    Reprobates & Salvation

    Brother Jim, Yes, I am willing to elaborate a bit more, although I do not have time to do so fully at this very moment. On the other hand, I do wish to present that this elaboration requires an understanding concerning TWO questions, as follows: 1. First, does God's Word teach that some people in some cases can reach a point in life wherein they no longer have any ability to be saved? (Note: I believe that the answer is -- Yes.) 2. Second, IF God's Word does teach this, then in what manner does this truth relate unto the "reprobate mind" of Romans 1:28-32, if it relates unto it at all? Now, because the second question is dependent upon the answer for the first question, it will be necessary Biblically to substantiate or deny the answer for the first question BEFORE considering any answer for the second question.
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    Reprobates & Salvation

    To those who may care to consider, There are various grammatical and contextual "keys" for correctly understanding Romans 1:18-32. Three of these "keys" are as follows: 1. Romans 1:18-32 reveals a series of progression that ends with the last sentence concerning the "reprobate mind," which sentence encompasses all of Romans 1:28-32. (Note: This last point in the series of progression is one step past the point of homosexual sin, as presented in Romans 1:26-27.) 2. Romans 1:28-32 is not referencing reprobate behavior per se, but is referencing specifically a reprobate MINDSET. 3. The Greek word that is translated with the English word "reprobate" in Romans 1:28 is also found in 1 Corinthians 9:27 (translated as "a castaway"), 2 Corinthians 13:5-7 (once in each verse), 2 Timothy 3:8, Titus 3:8, and Hebrews 6:8 (translated as "rejected").
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    Reprobates & Salvation

    For those who may care, I also hold to a form of "reprobate doctrine," although I do not generally refer to it in that manner, and although I do not hold to it in the same manner as Mr. Anderson or as Brother Young above. (Note: Brother Young applies some verses to his "reprobate doctrine" that I most certainly would not - John 8:43-45 being one example.)
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    Suggestions and/or Ideas?

    Sister LuAnne, Of the five books that I mentioned above, which do your husband and you personally own. I would like to donate to you personally those which you do not yet have, as well as all five for the church library.
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    Defining a PERFECT BIBLE

    A different SPELLING of the same word does NOT change the perfect trustworthiness of a Biblical translation. Whether we spell the word "saviour" or the word "savior" (with the "u" or without it), it is still the SAME word. And various examples could be provided in addition to this one.
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    Suggestions and/or Ideas?

    Sister LuAnne, That shipment about which we spoke privately has now come. As soon as I am able to get the package together, 5 books will be on the way. 1. God's Wisdom for Marriage & the Home 2. The Spirit of Revival: A Contrite and Humble Spirit 3. Thou Shalt Do These Things: A Study of the Commands in the New Testament 4. The Tender Mercies of the Lord 5. In the World, Not of the World: The Believer's Relationship to the World
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    Sheep teaching sheep

    I wish to commend that spirit of meekness and submission. Please understand that my posting above was NOT intended as a direct attack against your pastor. I do not know him. Thus I would NOT seek to engage in attack against him. However, my posting above WAS intended as an attack against a particular doctrinal position that I believe is Biblically false. From that I am NOT stepping back.
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    Sheep teaching sheep

    As has been stated already, the statements concerning sheep not teaching sheep is NOT a Biblical concept. In fact, I myself would be willing to contend that it is a doctrinally FASLE concept, standing in conflict with the teaching of God's Word concerning our responsibility to edify and exhort one another, as well as the responsibility of faithful men to teach others also and of older, godly women to teach the younger. Sad to say; but even in Independent Baptist churches, false doctrine may be found. On the other hand, the "under-shepherd" term has developed through an implication from God's Word. Scripture DOES reference church leadership as shepherds. Furthermore, Scripture refers unto our Lord Jesus Christ as the CHIEF Shepherd, and that in a context wherein instruction is delivered to church leadership. (See 1 Peter 5:1-4) Thus the implication is taken that since our Lord Jesus Christ is the Chief Shepherd, and Holy Spirit appointed church leadership are shepherds UNDER His CHIEF authority, then such church leadership may be referenced as UNDER-shepherds. The term is actually intended to emphasize the submission, responsibility, and accountability of church leadership UNDER the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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    THE DANGER OF STANDARDS

    Indeed, this has been one of the intended points for my "thought-question" postings above. There is a great spiritual error made when we create a DIVISON between obedience unto our Lord God's commands and following after the Holy Spirit's direction. These two things are NOT divided in their true Biblical reality. On the other hand, when a doctrinal position begins to divide them, that position will likely disregard one of the two "sides," while heavily pushing the other "side." Either extreme will result in doctrinal and behavioral falsehood. (Note: I do indeed believe that the independent Baptist movement has indeed fallen into the trap somewhat of pursuing one side extreme at the expense of the other.)
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    THE DANGER OF STANDARDS

    Here is something else to ponder -- Is there a New Testament "law" for which the New Testament believer is responsible before the Lord our God? What I mean is this -- Without considering any part of the Old Testament Scriptures at all, does the New Testament record any number of commands, statutes, precepts, requirements, standards of righteousness and holiness, for the New Testament believer to obey in order to walk aright with the Lord our God? (Note: Having actually done a study through the New Testament Scriptures on just the "command statements" of the New Testament, I would contend that there are upwards to 300+ such commands, statutes, precepts, requirements, standards of righteousness and holiness for the New Testament believer to obey in order to walk aright with the Lord our God.)
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    How to Understand Revelation and Daniel

    Concerning Matthew 24:1 - 25:46, Mark 131-37, Luke 21:5-36 (Part 2). So then, the TWO sets of questions by the disciples were as follows: 1. Set #1 – Concerning the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem A. WHEN shall these things [the destruction of the temple] be? B. WHAT SIGN will there be when these thing [the destruction of the temple] shall come to pass? 2. Set #2 – Concerning the Lord’s coming and the world’s end A. WHAT shall be the SIGN of thy coming? B. WHAT shall be the SIGN . . . of the end of the world? In answer to the disciples’ two sets of questions, our Lord provided a broad time-line of events. As we unify the parallel passages of Matthew 24:1 – 25:46, Mark 13:1-37, and Luke 21:5-36, we are able to discern the ordering of this time-line, as follows: I. Question Set #1 – Concerning the Destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem A. Nation against Nation & The World against Christ’s Servants Matthew 24:4–14 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Mark 13:5–13 5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you: 6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. 8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. 9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. 10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Luke 21:9–19 8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. 9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. 10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake. 13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake. 18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls. (Note: According to our Lord’s teaching in Matthew 24:6, Mark 13:7, Luke 21:9, these wars and persecutions are NOT a sing of the end. They are only “the beginning of sorrows.” On the other hand, throughout this time period, our Lord intends for the gospel to be “published among all nations” of the world and for us to walk in patient endurance unto the end.) B. Vengeance against Jerusalem & The Scattering of the Israelites Luke 21:20–24 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (Note: This encompassing and desolation of Jerusalem by the armies of Rome is now a historical even that occurred in 70 AD. At that time also the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. Thus we are able to understand Luke 21:20-24 reveals our Lord’s answer unto the first set of questions by the disciple – When shall the destruction of the temple be, and what sign shall there be when the destruction of the temple would come to pass? Yet the desolation of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple is not the end of all. Rather, according to our Lord’s teaching in Luke 21:24, following this desolation and destruction shall be a time wherein the Israelites are “led away captive into all nations” and wherein “Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles.” In fact, according to our Lord’s teaching in Luke 21:24, this time period will extend over periods (plural) of time “until the times [plural] of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”) II. Question Set #2 – Concerning the Lord’s Coming and the World’s End A. The Abomination of Desolation & The Greatest Tribulation of All Time Matthew 24:15-51 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Mark 13:14–23 14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: 15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house: 16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment. 17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. 19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. 21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: 22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. 23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. B. The Powers of Heaven Shaken & The Coming of the Lord Matthew 24:29-31 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Mark 13:24–27 24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. Luke 21:25–28 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. C. The Judgment of the Sheep and of the Goats Matthew 25:31-46 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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