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Hugh_Flower

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  1. Another cool thing about the revelation of 1948, is that the Bible said the Jews would not rule yet - not until their Messiah rules. And look they are currently ran by the UN
  2. Yup. I agree, the main statement is about polygamy and the rest requires further study.
  3. Sometimes 3 times a week, sometimes 1 sometimes none. All depends
  4. So we agree, things can be literal and spiritual, and that being figurative doesn’t impact the literal translation.
  5. Is Heaven not literal because it’s a spiritual place? Spiritual - Things pertaining to the spirit Figurative - Things not literal; metaphorical. All things spiritual are literal. Now we can be figurative about the spiritual things - IE We can say Our Country is Sodom and Gomorrah, it’s not literal, but it is figurative of spiritual likeness. It’s not literal unless God says it is.
  6. What do you mean? Spiritual doesn’t mean figurative. I don’t figuratively have the Holy Spirit in me, I literally do. I am spiritually born again, yet I am literally born again in the spirit. In Gods eyes I’m a new man, with a new spirit but I am still the same person.
  7. Just because it’s spiritual doesn’t mean it’s not literal. The bellow passage is pretty obviously a spiritual context, yet it is literal, see. For this woman is clothed with the sun that is black as a sackcloth of hair. Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
  8. Sureword I would like to Did you compare Rev 12:4 and 12:9? Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
  9. Sure I do agree with you on that we are 100% Brothers in Christ, and that small differences shouldn’t grieve the opportunity of fellowship. I come off as hard, I do apologize in that. What typology breathes fire?
  10. I mean you can listen to others or you can compare scripture to scripture. Personally, I’ve never heard of a fire breathing crocodile. And If I did, I think it being fire breathing probably makes it a dragon, and it’s scales being impenetrable. Weird How it’s called the serpent, and that’s also another name for Satan, and that Christ him self comes to kill it. And Yes I have read Job. Honestly this is where my argument lands and it’s either we believe what the Bible says, or we believe what we want to believe.
  11. That’s amazing. They are honestly looking for the truth, but I feel they never get the opportunity to really “look” at it.
  12. Read Job 41 and then read Isaiah 27:1 .We get a description of what it looks like. That’s pretty clearly a dragon. Job 41:19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Job 41:20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. Job 41:21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. How can you deny that, when you read Job 41 and then Isaiah 27:1
  13. Revelation 12:9 Revelation 20:2 Revelation 13:2 Revelation 12:7 Isaiah 27:1 The dragon is Satan. 12:9 Is how we get the idea that the fallen stars are Satans angels its a pretty cool study
  14. Well “shooting stars” is a meteor burning in our atmosphere. It is a literal dragon, that is a fact.
  15. It’s his thread… and the OP is more about a slant against liberalism today. Why are you dictating.
  16. Witnessed to a Freemason recently. Holy Spirit definitely did something to him, his entire demeanor changed through our interaction.
  17. Revelation 12:4 to me it reads as angels, but I also agree with your meteoroid theory. I believe that’s how it will appear. Interestingly John Hopkins is leader in this push of DART. As well as the COVID vaccine.
  18. Eh. Trying to discern your spirit here OSEA. What happens to the nation of Israel? Are you a covenant theologist? Replacement theology?
  19. This isn't an issue that can be solved through the means of man, it's an issue of conviction and ones faith and trust on God's provision for his people. We have his word now. Why should we doubt future generations or past generations don't or won't have it? Or even other nations? If we have missionaries sent out with the KJV, and they translate into the language of their residency, should we not have faith that, that is sufficient by the grace of God? Doctrinally, these are issues for local Church bodies, but even inside those churches they will only be proven through the conviction of the Holy Spirit for the individuals. I believe God wishes Israel to be righteous, and to testify for him, but instead through GRACE he has used another Witness, us the church. And I don't see how that lens cannot be used to view the dispensation of our Bible. Also, to think of it in another way. There is two debates taking place. But they are related. "Is the KJV wholly sufficient" and "Is there a Bible wholly sufficient". The second question should be answered first. And the answer is undoubtedly yes. Now, "Is the KJV wholly sufficient" - Yes, to those who show them selves approved. "Can we go outside the KJV" - Yes, to those who show them selves approved. “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 TIMOTHY 2:15. I would say, any translation done properly, is done by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Anyways, this entire thread is sad and is a perfect example of Modern Christianity. Biting each others heads off for 'heresy'. Church splits over ties and suits. None of you actually understood what Sureword is saying, His complaint about the Textus Receptus is because of translations like the MEV, Modern English Version, which if we went by the how the thread dictates, would be proper. However even that Bible is in error. But yes continue to jive and hoorah for tearing another Brothers head off.
  20. You're not understanding what I meant in that post. The Holy Spirit is what teaches us when we read scripture. John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
  21. Extreme. on that note, this entire discussion is just mans babble. It’s up to the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture anyway.
  22. To add. To me this is the way to approach it. the grace was supplied at the cross the grace was dispensed at Pentecost the grace was revealed unto Paul at his transformation. This is how I view at the moment, And If I was better at showing my self reproved I could show you what I am trying to say, However I am still learning. I apologize
  23. You know Jim, In honesty Im just repeating what I have learned through people. In that it’s a systematic method of theology, which isn’t the best way to approach the study of scripture. If I can not defend it, I can not attend to the truth of it. How ever, I believe I am not remembering the full study, and Im not providing this method of interpretation justice.
  24. Yes good catch, the dispensation changed.
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