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John if I owe you $100 and tell you "John, the check is in the mail", all the while not knowing whether my secretary mailed it or not, I am LYING. My secretary may have mailed it and it may indeed truly be in the mail but I had no idea if that was the truth when I told you.
It's the same thing brotherman!



I don't see what the disagreement is. I said it was wrong to state they ARE dinos when we can't know for sure. I said if they think they prOBably were and say that, then I find that acceptable. The same for any creature one wishes to ascribe to behemouth.
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I don't see what the disagreement is. I said it was wrong to state they ARE dinos when we can't know for sure. I said if they think they prOBably were and say that, then I find that acceptable. The same for any creature one wishes to ascribe to behemouth.



Sorry,
I was answering this sentence........
Saying behemouth in the Bible is a dinosaur may or may not be true. We can't rightly say it's a lie since we don't know for certain.
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Sorry,
I was answering this sentence........



That seems to be a reasonable statemnet to me.

Genesis 3:14. It seems that till that time the reptiles did not crawl. Isn't it strange that reptiles all have no legs, such as snakes, or short legs such as lizards ot crocs, and all slither or crawl. Satan is called a dragon in Rev. 12:9.
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If you are looking for some good study material, I suggest you look up "Brad Harrub" and "Focus Press." Brother Harrub is a Gospel Preacher and holds a Ph.D. in science. I have seen him in person on more than once and he presents information that is Biblical and that defeats evolutionist with their on info.

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That seems to be a reasonable statemnet to me.

Genesis 3:14. It seems that till that time the reptiles did not crawl. Isn't it strange that reptiles all have no legs, such as snakes, or short legs such as lizards ot crocs, and all slither or crawl. Satan is called a dragon in Rev. 12:9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLUwmJOo_M
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I think it can. You have no actual bone skeletons to prove that dinos lived after the flood.


That depends on where you are looking. Could it be that they are still alive, just not as big?
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That depends on where you are looking. Could it be that they are still alive, just not as big?



Question, so that I do not put words in your mouth, for I am not trying to do that.

Do you think some lizards or other animal or animals were once dinosaurs?



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Question, so that I do not put words in your mouth, for I am not trying to do that.

Do you think some lizards or other animal or animals were once dinosaurs?


Check the name Brad Harrub out. He is a Gospel Preacher and has a Ph.D. in some field of science. He has a great deal of material on the subject of dinos. You might just find it to be educational and entertaining.

One theory is as follows. Adam and others around him were living to ages of 900 + years. Could the animals have been living for that long as well. Some reptiles continue to grow as long as they live. How big could something grow in say 900 years?
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One prOBlem some folks have with this is the wrong idea that all dinosaurs were gigantic in size. In fact, only a small percentage of dinos were very large, the rest were much smaller, and smiliar in size to the animals we can all see today.

It's also often overlooked, and purposefully ignored by evolutionists, that various dinos were known to be in existence as near as 500-600 years ago. There are reports of such in some European countries and elsewhere. By their descriptions they were dinos and by the fear generated and the hunting parties organized to deal with them, it's likely these were hunted to extinction.

It was only a few years ago when the remains of a dino were discovered with skin tissue still on the skeleton. This indicates the dino has certainly not been dead for thousands of years, let alone for millions.

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One prOBlem some folks have with this is the wrong idea that all dinosaurs were gigantic in size.........
True

It's also often overlooked, and purposefully ignored by evolutionists, that various dinos were known to be in existence as near as 500-600 years ago
. There are also accounts of unicorns, elves, fairies, and Bigfoot......And I say again, If dinos were alive 600 years ago, there should be some NON fossilized skeletons being found somewhere.

It was only a few years ago when the remains of a dino were discovered with skin tissue still on the skeleton. This indicates the dino has certainly not been dead for thousands of years, let alone for millions.
The only "skin" I've read about was fossilized. Do you have any documentation of this? Edited by heartstrings
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The bones of most animals that die or are killed in the wild don't survive long. Between predators and the weather their skeltons are eaten, destroyed and scattered.

I've spent years tromping through the wilds and never seen the skeleton of wild animals.

Various aspects of proof have been posted in several threads on this topic yet if one wants to dismiss them all regardless of what they are then there is little point in continuing to post such.

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Check the name Brad Harrub out. He is a Gospel Preacher and has a Ph.D. in some field of science. He has a great deal of material on the subject of dinos. You might just find it to be educational and entertaining.

One theory is as follows. Adam and others around him were living to ages of 900 + years. Could the animals have been living for that long as well. Some reptiles continue to grow as long as they live. How big could something grow in say 900 years?





I've never head no discussion on man when they lived to be 900 + years old to continue to grow in height during all those years of living, although like some today when they got old, did not excise, and over ate, they may have grow in weight.


I'm not much on theories, after all that's what the evolutionist that think we grew out of monkey's use.



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The only "skin" I've read about was fossilized. Do you have any documentation of this?


Here's the last time it was discussed on here, heartstrings:


I posted quite heavily in that thread but I was a different person back then and am afraid to get into this topic again--sorry.
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The bones of most animals that die or are killed in the wild don't survive long. Between predators and the weather their skeltons are eaten, destroyed and scattered.

I've spent years tromping through the wilds and never seen the skeleton of wild animals.

Various aspects of proof have been posted in several threads on this topic yet if one wants to dismiss them all regardless of what they are then there is little point in continuing to post such.

Sir, they are finding intact skeletons and even bodies of "ice age" mammals, including woolly mammoths, in Siberia. Mummified remains, of humans and animals, thousands of years old, have and are presently being found in Egypt and other sites accross the glOBe. I, personally have found deer and other animal bones out in the woods. Human, and animal bones are commonly and frequently found by archaeologists in sites all over the world. And you tell me that there are accounts of dinos coexisting with humans only 600 years ago? Where are the bones, John?
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I have some questions of my own...


1. Is it possible that men with nothing more than bows and arrows and spears could coexist with giant carnivores like Allosaurs, Spinosaurs and T- Rex?


2.If there were dino passengers on Noah's ark and they slowly died off AFTER the flood, why are 99.9% of dino remains fossilized? Shouldn't we be finding a good bit of +/-5000 year old dino skeletons which are not fossilized?


3. If we can find numerous nonfossilized human and animal remains in places like Canaan, Babylon, ancient Sumeria, and Ur (Abraham's home) why no NON fossilized dino remains there?


4. If JOB was a contemporary with Behemoths'... and behemoths were dinosaurs and If JOB was a contemporary with Abraham, and Abraham was from Ur, shouldn't all those skeletons from Ur be fossilized like the dinos are? Are any non fossilized "behemoths" being found?


5. What would be the point of taking hundreds, if not thousands, of dino species on Noah's ark, including the giant carnivores, if man could not coexist with them?


6. What would be the point if they were all going to die off anyway? (with the exception of crocodilians)


7. Are you 100% certain that the "behemoth", in the Bible, was a dinosaur?


8. Are you absolutely certain that the "human footprints along side dino footprints", are genuine human footprints?

The answer to question 1 is. It is very possible. They are animals after all.
The answer to question 2 is. Try finding other animal bones that old such as cattle, dogs , birds, horses and the such.
The answer to question 3 is. See answer 2 no reports of find those in such places.
The answer to question 4 is. See answer 2
The answer to question 5 is. Who says we couldn't coexist with them. The dodo birds are extinct. So are the moas and a few other animals.
The answer to question 6 is. Same reason why God made man knowing they would fall. Or why people and animals die everyday of various deaths.
The answer to question 7 is. Are you sure 100 percent sure behemoth wasn't a dinosaur in the Bible. The discription of the behomoth is pretty accurate.
The answer to question 8 is. Can we be absolutely certain that they are not genuine.

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