Baptist here don’t talk about what’s going on in Jerusalem or Israel

[BrotherTony]

44 minutes ago, TheGloryLand said:

Amazing how Israel is the evil victim of what is happening. The lost world telling them what they need to do. Nobody is telling Hamas what they need to do. Has your church been quiet about what is going on in Israel? Your leader should be informing you of biblical events that are happening in Israel and how the world will someday try to destroy them. This will happen before the rapture of the Saints. If he says, that there have always been wars as his only final answer. Time to find a new church, in my humble opinion.

Church leaders should be preaching the Word of God, showing how the events of the present stand alongside the Bible. The world is not "one day" going to try and destroy Israel. They have been doing this since Israel once again became a sovereign nation, and even before. Though dispersed throughout the world for nearly 2000 years, many people have tried to destroy the Hebrews. Adolf Hitler is a prime example. It's easy for you to continually be telling people when they should be looking for a new church, and why they should be doing so. Why don't we let the Holy Spirit be the one leading the people. Opinions are like belly buttons... EVERYBODY has one, and many are misinformed.

Edited December 3, 2023 by BrotherTony

[TheGloryLand]

1 hour ago, BrotherTony said:

Church leaders should be preaching the Word of God, showing how the events of the present stand alongside the Bible. The world is not "one day" going to try and destroy Israel. They have been doing this since Israel once again became a sovereign nation, and even before. Though dispersed throughout the world for nearly 2000 years, many people have tried to destroy the Hebrews. Adolf Hitler is a prime example. It's easy for you to continually be telling people when they should be looking for a new church, and why they should be doing so. Why don't we let the Holy Spirit be the one leading the people. Opinions are like belly buttons... EVERYBODY has one, and many are misinformed.

Don’t forget Manny belly buttons haven’t been cleaned out.

[HappyChristian]

My hubs is currently doing a series on the history of Israel on Sunday nights. Began before Hamas attacked, so it's not because of the war. I agree it's important to understand about Israel. Far too many people think that biblical prophecy centers around the US. But in reality, it is a good idea to keep our eyes on what's happening in, with, and to Israel.

[TheGloryLand]

Israel needs to get there act together, if they don't want America to back-out on helpin'. They will then be an attack on Israel, from all their surrounding Countries. if leave.

[BrotherTony]

More and more of your input on politics sounds like you are a leftist plant. Israel has every right to defend themselves from Hamas. And no matter how the left and Christians who have little or no ability to discern whats going on (remember, HAMAS is using it's people as human shields, and most in Gaza fully support HAMAS) and how the MSM, UN, and the Biden  Administration Socialist Democrats are turning the narrative against Israel and it's right to try and eradicate the terrorist group, Israel should continue to try and get rid of them and end the war. 

Edited April 5 by BrotherTony

[SureWord]

On 4/5/2024 at 9:43 AM, TheGloryLand said:

Israel needs to get there act together, if they don't want America to back-out on helpin'. They will then be an attack on Israel, from all their surrounding Countries. if leave.

We won't back out of helping. Too many rich Jews in positions of power in America. Just look at Biden's staff, cabinet, Fed Reserve and particularly the Justice Dept. There's an inordinate amount of Jews in power for such a small group of people. And yes, they do control the vast majority of the media too. 

[TheGloryLand]

4 hours ago, SureWord said:

We won't back out of helping. Too many rich Jews in positions of power in America. Just look at Biden's staff, cabinet, Fed Reserve and particularly the Justice Dept. There's an inordinate amount of Jews in power for such a small group of people. And yes, they do control the vast majority of the media too. 

Do you think Trump will pull out of Israel, after he pulls out of Ukraine? Trump is sometimes unpredictable. If he wins

[TheGloryLand]

There are Christian groups that are still going to vist Israel right now. They are at War and any minute things can get worse. I don't recommend Americans to visit any country that is at War. What do you think? 

[BrotherTony]

If they want to visit, let them visit. It's not like Hamas or Hezbollah are currently invading Israel and gaining ground. I'm not against people going there.

[TheGloryLand]

27 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

If they want to visit, let them visit. It's not like Hamas or Hezbollah are currently invading Israel and gaining ground. I'm not against people going there.

I'll send your flight to Israel soon  

[BrotherTony]

41 minutes ago, TheGloryLand said:

I'll send your flight to Israel soon  

I don't fly anywhere, so maybe you should be booking me a cruise!!! LOL 

[Napsterdad]

9 hours ago, TheGloryLand said:

There are Christian groups that are still going to vist Israel right now. They are at War and any minute things can get worse. I don't recommend Americans to visit any country that is at War. What do you think? 

There is always threat of war in Israel; they live in the midst of their enemies. 

 

9 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

If they want to visit, let them visit. It's not like Hamas or Hezbollah are currently invading Israel and gaining ground. I'm not against people going there.

I'd go too. I don't believe it is any more dangerous today than before this action "started" (has it ever ended?) with Hamas.

 

8 hours ago, TheGloryLand said:

I'll send your flight to Israel soon  

While you're at it get my wife and I some flights. Round trip. About a full week should do. Thanks. (I'd like to stay longer but I am still a working stiff.)

[TheGloryLand]

Not to long ago the airports were closed. But if everything is good and you don't mind being stuck in a foreign country, Airport closed, she is all yours.

[SureWord]

Good luck going to Israel as a Christian. They have begun to persecute Christians there. They have plans in outlawing Christianity.

Also, enjoy the Palestinians who will be flooding your neighborhood. Driving them all out and resettling them in Europe and America has been the plan for a while now.

Enjoy your visit to "the people of God" whom half the nation identifies as atheist and 20% identify as homosexual. What a blessing. I'd rather visit a church in Appalachia than that mess. That's where you'll find God, not in "the holy land".

[Napsterdad]

4 hours ago, SureWord said:

Good luck going to Israel as a Christian. They have begun to persecute Christians there. They have plans in outlawing Christianity.

Also, enjoy the Palestinians who will be flooding your neighborhood. Driving them all out and resettling them in Europe and America has been the plan for a while now.

Enjoy your visit to "the people of God" whom half the nation identifies as atheist and 20% identify as homosexual. What a blessing. I'd rather visit a church in Appalachia than that mess. That's where you'll find God, not in "the holy land".

Who said anything about "finding God"? It is quite likely that there is at least some one in the best Appalachian church that has yet to "find God" while there are many in much worse places (Sudan, China, North Korea, etc.) that have. Physical location has nothing to do with "finding God".

 I would like to go just to see with my own eyes the places where our savior walked. Get the lay of the land. Help the stories in the Bible become more vivid from a first-hand view of the flora, fauna, cities and landscape. I have read extensively of historical events that occurred in America and many other countries and I always gain a much better understanding of those events when I am able to personally see the places. My desire to visit Israel is for no other reason than to sharpen my understanding. If you don't have that desire, well that's good for you.

As to your statistics, I don't see Israel being very different from America. Their numbers may be higher, but America is on a crash course to match them. Besides, God hasn't started dealing with them yet.

As for them sending Palestinians to America, well they will fit right in with the millions of illegal immigrants already bringing their crime and vice to our neighborhoods.