Music In The Independent Baptist Churches

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My two boys and myself do all the bass singing....man stuff.

[HappyChristian]

My two boys and myself do all the bass singing....man stuff.

Whew - I'm sure enough glad it isn't your wife or daughter singing that bass!   

 

Does your family sing at your church much?

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[The Glory Land]

It's o.k to sing on Saturday, but not on the Lords Day...  Sunday. 

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Are contemporary songs and music welcome in your church?

Most of the Independent Baptist Churches sing using hymnals only?

One more question, is it a sin to aloud any type of music into the church?

These questions will help me and others, thank you. 

Unfortunately, in my present church, they are.

 

In my last IFB church, they used hymnals for congregationals, but used music written by more modern artists like Ron Hamilton and even more contemporary music in the choir.

 

As to your last question, I believe yes, it is a sin. The Bible says to make "melody in your hearts unto the Lord". I just find it hard to make melody in my heart to God through things like electric guitar distortions and ungodly drum beats. If the music is suitable for "disco" or "The Rolling Stones" it can't be godly Christian music.

[The Glory Land]

Unfortunately, in my present church, they are.

 

In my last IFB church, they used hymnals for congregationals, but used music written by more modern artists like Ron Hamilton and even more contemporary music in the choir.

 

As to your last question, I believe yes, it is a sin. The Bible says to make "melody in your hearts unto the Lord". I just find it hard to make melody in my heart to God through things like electric guitar distortions and ungodly drum beats. If the music is suitable for "disco" or "The Rolling Stones" it can't be godly Christian music.

 

 

I do understand what you are saying, but your church will not grow in numbers for the Lord. It may even shrink in numbers/members. Are you wrong maybe not, are you right maybe not.

Edited August 7, 2013 by The Glory Land

[heartstrings]

It's o.k to sing on Saturday, but not on the Lords Day...  Sunday. 

Sing every day!

We sing in the congregation every Sunday, and in the choir. My son and I sang in a special men's choir last Sunday.

[heartstrings]

I do understand what you are saying, but your church will not grow in numbers for the Lord. It may even srink in numbers/members. Are you wrong maybe not, are you right maybe not.

It's better for a church to grow spiritually first ..then it can grow in numbers. Entertainment and worldly music feeds the flesh. Worship is all about spirit and truth. ,..

[Salyan]

I do understand what you are saying, but your church will not grow in numbers for the Lord. It may even srink in numbers/members. Are you wrong maybe not, are you right maybe not.

 

Whoa, whoa, whoa... You're equating a particular music with whether or not a church will grow. Does music save people? Is it responsible for adding people to the church? The Holy Spirit saves people. The Holy Spirit grows the church both in numbers and in the Lord.

 

The idea that a church must 'keep up with the Joneses' in the music department in order to lure people into church is a very dangerous idea. Once upon a time, churches actually chose their music to honor God, and left the results up to Him. Now, they often choose the music to draw the crowds - but what kind of crowds are they drawing?  Worldly music draws worldly crowds. That is hardly 'growing in numbers for the Lord'.  It is growing in numbers, yes, but in shallowness and worldliness. This is pragmatism. "The end justifies the means." Unfortunately, the end will not be holy and separated lives unto God.  We are to obey God, and let Him worry about the results. 

 

If you don't believe me, just look at the majority of evangelical churches. They teach the gospel, yes, but that's about it. They have used worldly means - music and entertainment and lax standards - to draw to draw the world. And they have succeeded - in bringing the world into the church, and producing weak, carnal Christians.  They appear to love the Lord - even more than us. But they will not obey Him. What does that verse say? "If ye love me, keep my commands." They do not appear as lights "in a wicked and perverse generation". They are losing their young people to the world, and to ritualistic, dead churches, because the young people cannot see the power of God and the holiness of God reflected in their shallow churches.  I know - I used to be there.

[robmac68]

I do understand what you are saying, but your church will not grow in numbers for the Lord. It may even shrink in numbers/members. Are you wrong maybe not, are you right maybe not.

When Jesus told His disciples to cast their net on the other side, He did not tell them to get a new boat, change their clothes or hair styles, get a woman to help, or change the music on their IPOD.  All they had to do was obey.  When we follow Christ, He will make us fishers of men, we can't do it ourselves.  If we feel we need to change or adapt, basically we are saying we can go it alone without Christ's help, and that is asking for disaster.

[John81]

There are plenty of churches in this area that use CCM or other forms of music but they don't draw crowds. Our church has more members than several of those. Yet there are some churches like that which do have larger attendance.

 

It's takes more than just music, of whatever kind, to draw folks, whether for the right or wrong reasons.

[robmac68]

^{1 Cor. 2}

⁴ And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

⁵ That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

 

Paul didn't even change the way he talked to attract people.  The power of God is all that is needed and if a church loses members because the church's stand against CCM, those members weren't worth having in the first place. 

 

[The Glory Land]

You guys want to reach the lost too right? Hymms only will not do it. I do like Hymms my self. 

[HappyChristian]

You guys want to reach the lost too right? 

 

The lost are not reached for Christ by using the world's philosophy - whether it's in music, speech, dress, feminism, etc. The lost are reached by the gospel which is presented by saved people who are obedient to the Word of God.  

[The Glory Land]

The lost are not reached for Christ by using the world's philosophy - whether it's in music, speech, dress, feminism, etc. The lost are reached by the gospel which is presented by saved people who are obedient to the Word of God.  

 

 

But we have talent and wonderful tools.