The number of a man

[BrotherTony]

9 hours ago, Oseas said:

For being fulfilled LITERALLY soon according description in Revelation 13:v.15 to 18

15 And he - THE MAN BEAST OF THE EARTH, AN ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MAN- has power to give life unto the image of the Beast -THE IMAGE OF THE FIRST BEAST-THE MAN BEAST OF SEA-, that the image of the Beast (of sea) should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the Beast (of sea) should be KILLED.

16 And he -THE MAN BEAST OF THE EARTH, AN ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MAN- causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that has the MARK, or the NAME of the Beast, or the NUMBER of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the NUMBER of the Beast: for it is the NUMBER of a MAN; and his number is 666.
 

The challenge is to identify the NAME of the Beast, whose NAME is upon his 7 heads - i.e. upon 7 mountains. Based on the above biblical description, we can describe six situations, as follow:

1 - First will rise up out of the earth(out of the nation of Israel) a Man Beast with two horns like a lamb(a false lamb), in fact a false messiah - John 5:v.43 to 47- ;

2 - The Man Beast of the earth will give his Throne in Jerusalem, spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, and also his Power and Great Authority to the FIRST Man Beast, the Beast of sea, a Gentile Man Beast--the Pope (Revelation 13:v.2)- who has 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the NAME of blasphemy(sea means peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues). What is the blasphemy's NAME upon his 7 heads-(7 heads are 7mountains?)

3 - Will be given life unto THE IMAGE OF THE FIRST MAN BEAST-THE MAN BEAST OF SEA- the POPE, that the image of the Beast (of sea) should both speak, and causes that as many as would not worship the image of the-Man-Beast (of sea) -the Pope- should be KILLED.

4 - And he -THE MAN BEAST OF THE EARTH, AN ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MAN-a false messiah-John 5:v.43-, will cause all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a MARK in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

5 - And that no man might buy or sell, save he that has the MARK or the NAME of the Man Beast of sea-the Pope, or the NUMBER of his NAME - that is the NAME of blasphemy the MAN Beast of sea-the Pope- has upon his 7 heads - 7 mountains.

6 - The challenge is to identify the NAME of the Man Beast of sea that is upon his 7 heads - 7 mountains. Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the NUMBER of the Man Beast (of sea): for it is the NUMBER of a MAN; and his number is 666.

P.S.
The MAN Beast of earth, who has two horns like a lamb, and he speaks as Dragon, he already was born decades ago and MUST manifest himself soon.

 

 

It's your belief, @Oseas, that now are the days before the Rapture. The Apostles believed this as well. And the Bible tells us that NO MAN, nor the angels in Heaven, nor even the Son, know the day or the hour when the Son will come. He does give some good indication of when, but trying to put a spin on when it will occur is close to being a false prophet. We are, however, to always be ready for these things. 

[SureWord]

9 hours ago, Oseas said:

Konstantin is not from Brazil, 

 

Is that where you have you VPN set for, Konstantin?

[Hugh_Flower]

Eh. Trying to discern your spirit here OSEA. What happens to the nation of Israel? Are you a covenant theologist? Replacement theology?

[Oseas]

On 10/4/2021 at 11:33 AM, BrotherTony said:

On 10/4/2021 at 2:14 AM, Oseas said:

For being fulfilled LITERALLY soon according description in Revelation 13:v.15 to 18

15 And he - THE MAN BEAST OF THE EARTH, AN ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MAN- has power to give life unto the image of the Beast -THE IMAGE OF THE FIRST BEAST-THE MAN BEAST OF SEA-, that the image of the Beast (of sea) should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the Beast (of sea) should be KILLED.

16 And he -THE MAN BEAST OF THE EARTH, AN ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MAN- causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that has the MARK, or the NAME of the Beast, or the NUMBER of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the NUMBER of the Beast: for it is the NUMBER of a MAN; and his number is 666.

The challenge is to identify the NAME of the Beast, whose NAME is upon his 7 heads - i.e. upon 7 mountains. Based on the above biblical description, we can describe six situations, as follow:

1 - First will rise up out of the earth(out of the nation of Israel) a Man Beast with two horns like a lamb(a false lamb), in fact a false messiah - John 5:v.43 to 47- ;

2 - The Man Beast of the earth will give his Throne in Jerusalem, spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, and also his Power and Great Authority to the FIRST Man Beast, the Beast of sea, a Gentile Man Beast--the Pope (Revelation 13:v.2)- who has 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the NAME of blasphemy(sea means peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues). What is the blasphemy's NAME upon his 7 heads-(7 heads are 7mountains?)

3 - Will be given life unto THE IMAGE OF THE FIRST MAN BEAST-THE MAN BEAST OF SEA- the POPE, that the image of the Beast (of sea) should both speak, and causes that as many as would not worship the image of the-Man-Beast (of sea) -the Pope- should be KILLED.

4 - And he -THE MAN BEAST OF THE EARTH, AN ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MAN-a false messiah-John 5:v.43-, will cause all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a MARK in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

5 - And that no man might buy or sell, save he that has the MARK or the NAME of the Man Beast of sea-the Pope, or the NUMBER of his NAME - that is the NAME of blasphemy the MAN Beast of sea-the Pope- has upon his 7 heads - 7 mountains.

6 - The challenge is to identify the NAME of the Man Beast of sea that is upon his 7 heads - 7 mountains. Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the NUMBER of the Man Beast (of sea): for it is the NUMBER of a MAN; and his number is 666.
P.S.
The MAN Beast of earth, who has two horns like a lamb, and he speaks as Dragon, he already was born decades ago and MUST manifest himself soon.

 

Romans 16:v. 20 - And the GOD of peace SHALL BRUISE SATAN UNDER YOUR FEET SHORTLY. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

The author of the epistle to the Romans, Paul Apostle, after his conversion to Christianity was arrested in Cesareia, he made his own defense at his Judgment. The Jews asked to the governor called Festus to send Paul to Jerusalem, but Paul told no one could turn him over to the Jews (Paul knew that the Jews wanted to kill him), then, when he finished his defense, he appealed to Caesar at his Judgment. "Then Festus, when he had conferred with the council, answered, Hast thou appealed unto Caesar? unto Caesar shalt thou go-Acts 25:v.12. Paul's journey to Italy-Rome was full of obstacles and difficulties for his survival, and at great risk of losing his life, but GOD was with him and kept him, and he arrived in Rome safe and sound after several months of great sufferings.

The Apostle Paul, whose name was originally Saul, was a Jew from a very orthodox line of Pharisaism. He was a student of Gamaliel, but unlike his mentor, he was known for his persecution of Christians. Paul also had Roman citizenship, he was born in Tarsus, the capital of Cilicia, this was and made a great difference in his ministry. Cilicia is an early Roman province on what is today the southern coast of Turkey.

There were many many Jews in Rome, and the fame of a new "religion or sect" planted by JESUS in Israel was spreading everywhere. Three days after he arrived in Rome, Paul called the Jewish leaders in Rome, as a result, many Jews in Rome came to visit him, and Paul explained that he was arrested because of his faith in Israel's hope. They decided to hear more (Acts 28:17-22), and a large number of Jews gathered at Paul's house, and he tried to convince them about Jesus (28:23) and the Kingdom of God, there was a division among the Jews, some believing and others rejecting the Word (28:24-29).

Paul said to the Jews: Romans 2:v.1-11

1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the Judgment of God?
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
11 There is no respect of persons with God.

Then the Church of our Lord JESUS developed itself in Rome, and Satan in parallel worked too. Thus Paul was concerned about the apostasy in the Church of Rome, he took very care for the spiritual development of the brothers in Rome. Paul gave his last instructions and admonitions to the brothers of the Church in Rome, warning them of an apostate movement mainly by Jews among the brothers, even in the Church of the Lord there established by him and other apostles. Rom.16:17-20:

-17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by GOOD WORDS and FAIR SPEECHES DECEIVE the hearts of the simple.
19 For YOUR OBEDIENCE is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
20 And the God of peace SHALL BRUISE SATAN UNDER YOUR FEET SHORTLY.THIS WILL FULFILL LIETERALLY FROM NOW ON-HALLELUJAH!

John Apostle also wrote about the apostasy mainly about the primitive and true Church of the LORD in Rome, as follow:
1 John 2:v.19 - They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out,that they might be made manifest that THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US.

It is very interesting this revelation of the Apostle John concerning the primitive and genuine Church of the LORD in Rome, which apostatized even in the time of the Apostles, mainly the Jewish believers, and it linked politically to the Roman Empire, and the Church was called Catholic Church, and become a CORRUPTED CHURCH in the hands of Satan.

Again: "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out,that they might be made manifest that THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US"-1John 2:v.19-then they started to persecute the true Churches of the LORD, they killed the Apostles Paul and Peter among others. By the way, notice that Revelation describes(year 95AD and 65 years after JESUS's ascension)the spiritual conditions of the 7 Churches of Asia, but the Church of Rome, later denominated Roman Catholic Church, which would be the eighth, it was excluded because was totally in the hands of the Devil, and would be according Scriptures the Seat of Satan, the headquarter of the body of Devil, the idolater, apostate, and devilish church of Rome.

And now, even now, with the manifestation of the MAN Beast of earth with two horns like a lamb, a false lamb, a Jewish false messiah (John 5:v.43-47) but speaks as Dragon, then there will be two Beasts reigning on the Earth, one in Rome and another in Jerusalem, as Paul apostle warned, saying; 2Thes.2:v.3to12:

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (He who is not of the Lord, Satan will take with him, and there will be battle: Revelation 12:v.7-17 and 16:v.13-16).

And ONE of the 7 heads of the satanic and religious MONSTER guided by the Beast of sea will be wounded to death by the Sword, and his wound will be healed by the MAN Beast of earth, the son of perdition, the little horn, who was born from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, the tribe of Dan, he is already living in his country, and must manifest himself soon. And he, even he himself, will give to the Beast of sea-the Pope-his Power,and his Seat in Jerusalem, spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, and great Authority, and the wound of the head of the Beast of sea will be healed by the false messiah of the Jews-John 5:v.43-47 combined with Revelation 13:v.3.

But the GOD of peace SHALL BRUISE SATAN UNDER YOUR FEET SHORTLY. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

[BrotherTony]

Oseas, that's NOT my quote...it's YOURS! LOL

[Oseas3]

On 10/29/2021 at 7:21 PM, BrotherTony said:

Oseas, that's NOT my quote...it's YOURS! LOL

It's the Word of GOD.  The Word is GOD, understand?

[BrotherTony]

1 hour ago, Oseas3 said:

It's the Word of GOD.  The Word is GOD, understand?

The "Word of God" has nothing to do with what I was referring to....you attributed a quote to me that wasn't mine. Disengenuous of you at best.  See below

  On 10/4/2021 at 9:33 AM, BrotherTony said:

On 10/4/2021 at 2:14 AM, Oseas said:

For being fulfilled LITERALLY soon according description in Revelation 13:v.15 to 18

15 And he - THE MAN BEAST OF THE EARTH, AN ESOTERIC,

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" (Rev. 13:18 KJV).

The logic of the text is that the number of the beast is the number of a man, i.e., 666.

The following is from my book, Dismantling Dispensationalism: A guide to better understanding the Last Days and the End Times.

There are several examples in the text that indicate that the book was intended for the Church in John’s time, for example, ‘the number of the beast...666.’ This clearly identifies Emperor Nero, a tyrant who had severely persecuted the Church, but who had died by the time John wrote. A careful study, however, will show that John referenced Nero metaphorically to point to another emperor who would be as ruthless towards the Church as Nero had been. John indicates this transition when he writes of ‘the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived’ (Rev. 13:14).

History shows us that Domitian was like Nero in the way that he persecuted the Church and who was figuratively the reincarnation of the beast that Nero had been. Writing as a prisoner in exile, John wisely used coded language to indicate these emperors were enemies of the Church.

. . .

 

Calculating the Mark of the Beast, 666

6 = man

3 = God

666 = Man setting himself up as God

666 = ‘number of the beast...is the number of a person’

666 = Neron Kaesar (Greek) using numerology

616 = Nero Kaesar (Latin) using numerology

‘The number of the beast’ depicted ‘the number of a man.’ Using numerology, John indicated who the person was. The number 666 was, no doubt, cryptically depicted so as to avoid appearing anti-Roman. By writing, ‘This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast...’ (Rev. 13:18), John clearly expected his audience to determine who he was referring to.

. . . 

 

666

‘This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666’ (Rev. 13:18).

Meaning:

- 6 = man

- 3 = God

- 666 = man setting himself up as God

- 666 = number of the beast...is the number of a person

- 666 = Neron Kaesar (Greek)

- 616 = Nero Kaesar (Latin)

Interpretation:

- ‘666’ depicts Nero’s reincarnation in the imminent leader (Domitian) and possibly later reincarnations (several world leaders and popes)

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The above is also found in my blog post,  Who is the Antichrist? – Part 3, on the website Real Church Life.

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Dr. Robert S. Morley
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[BrotherTony]

8 hours ago, Dr. Robert S. Morley said:

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" (Rev. 13:18 KJV).

The logic of the text is that the number of the beast is the number of a man, i.e., 666.

The following is from my book, Dismantling Dispensationalism: A guide to better understanding the Last Days and the End Times.

There are several examples in the text that indicate that the book was intended for the Church in John’s time, for example, ‘the number of the beast...666.’ This clearly identifies Emperor Nero, a tyrant who had severely persecuted the Church, but who had died by the time John wrote. A careful study, however, will show that John referenced Nero metaphorically to point to another emperor who would be as ruthless towards the Church as Nero had been. John indicates this transition when he writes of ‘the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived’ (Rev. 13:14).

History shows us that Domitian was like Nero in the way that he persecuted the Church and who was figuratively the reincarnation of the beast that Nero had been. Writing as a prisoner in exile, John wisely used coded language to indicate these emperors were enemies of the Church.

. . .

 

Calculating the Mark of the Beast, 666

6 = man

3 = God

666 = Man setting himself up as God

666 = ‘number of the beast...is the number of a person’

666 = Neron Kaesar (Greek) using numerology

616 = Nero Kaesar (Latin) using numerology

‘The number of the beast’ depicted ‘the number of a man.’ Using numerology, John indicated who the person was. The number 666 was, no doubt, cryptically depicted so as to avoid appearing anti-Roman. By writing, ‘This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast...’ (Rev. 13:18), John clearly expected his audience to determine who he was referring to.

. . . 

 

666

‘This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666’ (Rev. 13:18).

Meaning:

- 6 = man

- 3 = God

- 666 = man setting himself up as God

- 666 = number of the beast...is the number of a person

- 666 = Neron Kaesar (Greek)

- 616 = Nero Kaesar (Latin)

Interpretation:

- ‘666’ depicts Nero’s reincarnation in the imminent leader (Domitian) and possibly later reincarnations (several world leaders and popes)

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The above is also found in my blog post, Who is the Antichrist? – Part 3.

 

Your postings of excerpts from your book have a violation of this sites rules. ALL scripture postings are to be from the King James Version of the Bible. And believe me when I say your book is NOT the answer to any of these subjects.

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

Thanks for the heads-up. I will gladly try remember to stick to the KJV.

As for what I have shared, please advise me on your thoughts. "For now we see through a glass, darkly," but together we can help each other see so much more.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Dr. Robert S. Morley
Added the last paragraph.

[Jerry]

The number of the Antichrist is not three sixes - but six hundred and sixty six. Also, John was not referring to the destruction of Jerusalem when he spoke of the Antichrist - but to an endtime leader who will not be revealed until the time of the end.

[SureWord]

On 4/28/2023 at 5:34 PM, Jerry said:

The number of the Antichrist is not three sixes - but six hundred and sixty six. Also, John was not referring to the destruction of Jerusalem when he spoke of the Antichrist - but to an endtime leader who will not be revealed until the time of the end.

I'll take it a step further.

It's "six hundred threescore and six"

It's spelled out because it will be a number of a name, i.e. word

[Invicta]

On 5/1/2023 at 11:06 PM, SureWord said:

I'll take it a step further.

It's "six hundred threescore and six"

It's spelled out because it will be a number of a name, i.e. word

As a matter of interest (or not as the case may be) 666 is the sum of all the numbers from 1 to 36. I once read a book where these numbers were arranged in 6 columns each column adding up to 111 and each line adding up to 111, and if I remember each diagonal also. It said it was the mystic square of Bacchus.

Irenius gave the answer as Lateinus, the Latin Man. Which had some connection to Romulus.

[Jerry]

There are only 22 letters in Hebrew and 24 in Greek. Also, the number of a specific endtimes ruler’s name is taken from the value of each of those specific letters - not a sum of every letter in an alphabet. That is basically taking the prophecy and making it mean literally nothing; whereas this prophecy is so those who have wisdom during the tribulation can identify him by the sum total of his name.

[Invicta]

On 10/4/2021 at 3:33 PM, BrotherTony said:

 

It's your belief, @Oseas, that now are the days before the Rapture. The Apostles believed this as well. And the Bible tells us that NO MAN, nor the angels in Heaven, nor even the Son, know the day or the hour when the Son will come. He does give some good indication of when, but trying to put a spin on when it will occur is close to being a false prophet. We are, however, to always be ready for these things. 

Jesus sid it would be as in the days of Lot.  In a book * written in about 1902, the author commented on that and said he didn't see how that could happen. I think any Christian in my childhood would have said the same. But they  wouldn't say that now. One person who saw a comment like mine said that it was not the entire population but only the rapistsn  it God told Abraham that he would spare the city if he could find ten just  men. 

If we look at the account in Genesis we see that Lot chose that area because the pasture was well watered. If it is like some of the pictures I ha e seen, it is barren, and not a plain, but a hollow nearly 1,000 feet below sea level, the ,lowest part on dry land. As the salt sea is drying up, ruins have been found with layers of ash and ball of sulphur (brimstone). Shown on YouTube.  

* History unveiling prophecy by Henry Grattan Guinness. 

Edited July 3, 2023 by Invicta
Additional text added.