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  1. Oh, so you are simply a heretic who doesn’t believe the New Testament and is not part of a sound Christian church. That explains it. So what are you? Seventh Day Adventist or some other cult?
  2. And it is obvious from the context that the whole description is symbolic - all the symbols can be traced throughout the rest of the Bible.
  3. Then you truly ignored the book of Acts and the end of the Gospels. There are various references to both gathering together on the first day of the week and remembering Christ’s (death, burial, and) resurrection. 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Jesus can’t return to gather the saints and establish His kingdom if He is not alive to do so. Just to clarify: what are you asking or debating here exactly? Denying or questioning they gathered on the first day of the week, or that they specifically remembered (or celebrated in some way) the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ arose? It’s hard to give specific passages when I am not sure what you are looking for. The New Testament is full of references to the resurrection of Christ, and the book of Acts (and even 1 Corinthians) contain various references to believers meeting together on the Lord’s Day/Sunday.
  4. Not shopping in a store that sold cigarettes or alcohol is a personal conviction if you will, perhaps based on some Bible principles. Not drawing pictures of Jesus is a Bible COMMAND. There is a big difference between the two.
  5. Pentecost was always on a Sunday. It was the 50th day after a particular sabbath (after the sabbath of Passover week) - 1 day (which makes it Sunday - the first day of the week) plus seven weeks (49 days).
  6. Well, don’t draw any pictures of Jesus then. It’s hard to be Biblically accurate when the Bible never physically describes Jesus. People get used to compromises - the more they do so, they less it bothers them. But the Bible has not changed, even when others have. People are too afraid to rock the boat by going against popular opinion. Jesus is God - and the Bible says we do not know what God looks like so don’t even make images of a man - Jesus in His human form is a man.
  7. Yes, if you are walking in sin - then you are not walking in love with the Lord. You are backslidden and have left your first love. But Jesus was talking about more than just the 10 commandments - anytime you know what God wants you to do and don’t do it, you are sinning against the Lord. James 4:17. P.S. If you are living a sinful lifestyle, then you are not maturing as a believer!!
  8. I understand - but this aspect of the issue affects a lot of professing Christians too. It is basically the other side of the same coin. Helps to clarify both sides together, otherwise someone may take what you posted above and figure that was not the case.
  9. Long reply, which I will read through - but I just wanted to clarify: No, there are no prohibitions in Scripture of making images of created things, unless they are worshipped - YET, there are definitely clear commands and principles of making any images of the true God (which would include Jesus as a human, the Holy Spirit pictured as a dove) or false gods, whether they are worshipped or not.
  10. A chariot is a horse drawn vehicle, not a ship.
  11. So? It is describing the cherubim and how they move about. It doesn’t need to be anything weird, wacky, or go beyond the Bible. It is referring to spiritual beings. I doubt they are using some physical ship to travel about, even if it is hard to fully understand what they are portraying.
  12. What prophet? One in the Bible? If so, you are referring to Elijah in 2 Kings 2:11. It was no ship of any kind - it was a chariot of fire pulled by horses of fire.
  13. The Bible (including that passage in Deuteronomy) forbids the making of any images of God (or gods) - which would include statues/pics, etc. of Jesus as a man (which unfortunately too many believers overlook). If God was against the making of any image of any created being at all, then He would not have commanded them to make images of certain creatures in the construction of the tabernacle/temple. “Of course he is not paying attention to the context of these passages, where the problem is not the pictures, but the worship of them.” Actually, the Bible forbids any images of God whether they are worshipped or not.
  14. They might be bull feathers.
  15. Who do you think keeps sending us all that money in those Nigerian emails?
  16. Paul, great attempt at saying nothing with a lot of words! AdamL, I agree, your first example is horrible and is a twisting/misrepresentation of Scripture. Nothing wrong with using a verse/passage as a springboard for a topical message - as long as the verse used as the focal point is not taken out of context. If it does not have anything to do with the Biblical teaching that someone is trying to present, then it should not be done. AND for a topical sermon to be true to God’s word, it must take into account all the Bible passages dealing with that precept (even if they are not presented in the message, they should NEVER contradict the rest of the Bible on that topic). Typically, on Wednesday nights, my pastor works his way through a book expositionally (currently working through the book of Mark). Sunday school services are usually working through a quarterly of some kind - though previously I believe he worked through a survey of the Bible for a year or so before I came back regularly to this church. The main Sunday morning service is whatever message the Lord lays on his heart. While the evening service message is often working through a series, but could be topical or expositional depending upon the theme. My pastor had a heart attack right after the service last Wednesday night, and last Sunday and tonight we had various men in our church preach whatever the Lord laid on their heart. I preached a topical sermon tonight (actually a character study on John Mark*), but it treated each passage dealing with Mark, Barnabas, and his mother Mary’s house (the upper room where they gathered for prayer) in an expository manner (if I could say that) - defining words, pointing out various things in each passage, etc. *A sermon on the theme of the God of second chances and new beginnings, showing how the Lord gave both John Mark (the rich young ruler, who later departed from Barnabas and Paul on their missionary journeys) and Paul those second chances and new beginnings. Hope that made sense.
  17. Paradise before the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ was also in the heart of the earth. It was the OT form of Heaven - same as Abraham’s Bosom. Luke 16 speaks about this place. There certainly is no such thing as soul sleep, as those in the heart of the earth - whether righteous or wicked - whether in Abraham’s Bosom/Paradise or Hell - are definitely conscious. As of the ascension of Christ, all believers are now in Heaven, dwelling in the presence of God, according to Philippians 1:20-23 and 2 Corinthians 5:6-8. Hebrews 9:24 defines Heaven (the third heaven, ie. 2 Corinthians 12:1-4) as where the presence of God dwells. Paradise is where the OT righteous and the NT righteous dwell - however, it’s temporary position before Christ’s ascension was changed to it’s current permanent location. No one could dwell in the presence of God before the Lord Jesus Christ died and shed His blood for their sins, as no sin could dwell in the presence of God.
  18. It is just another one of their ways to “earn favour” with God, to merit salvation.
  19. Wow, another pure nutter! Go spew your poison and filth somewhere else. This website is for true Bible believers to fellowship on and those who are truly seeking salvation to come here and find answers to their sincere questions - not for wackos to invent their own brand of new age science fiction. Though I will admit, this is the most original demonic type of heresies I have ever heard online.
  20. Context, context, context. The Bible does not teach any kind of soul sleep or unconsciousness of the dead. They are conscious - just not aware of what is going on i the world after they have departed it. The context of Ecclesiastes 9:5 and Job 14:21 show that. Job 8:9 is not even referring to what believe think or are aware of after death. Sad - you claim to believe the King James Bible, but post in various threads in such a manner as to explain it away.
  21. They obviously saw each other in OT times, and even were able to communicate on at least one occasion - according to Jesus in Luke 16 - though there was a great uncrossable gulf between the two places.
  22. Anyone studying the New Testament in Greek or using a Strong’s Concordance would sooner or later find out what the underlying word is.
  23. It is from the underlying Greek word (of devils), daimonion.
  24. I’m sorry - but it is literally 100000000000% impossible for you to fulfill the righteousness of the law, which is why Jesus had to die on the cross for your sins. He fulfilled all righteousness in keeping the law perfectly. When we receive Him as our Saviour, His righteousness is credited to our account in the eyes of God the Father (and ultimately our righteousness through Christ exceeds that of the scribes and pharisees, which is what God’s Word teaches). 2 Corinthians 5:21 " 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."

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