Firearms thread.

[DaveW]

Don't want to derail that thread so.....

 

I sure am glad that I don't live in a place where I would feel it a necessity to concealed carry at all times.

I am glad I don't live in a place where I would feel it necessary to have a loaded weapon by my bedside or next to my front door.

Whether or not YOU think I should anyway, I don't feel any need to be armed in my society - and I am glad of it. 

 

Please note thst I am not saying anyone is wrong to have or feel like they have to have a weapon for protection.

I am saying I am glad that I don't live in a place where I would feel it a necessity. 

Praise the Lord for that about where I live. 

 

Edited March 18, 2017 by DaveW
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[HappyChristian]

I'm glad you don't,either. I'm also glad we still have the freedom to choose one way or the other here. For now.

[DaveW]

I could get a licence and an appropriate firearm if I wanted to, but I don't feel like I need to.

I am not a hunter, but I know people who are - with firearms, bows, and crossbows - and they have that freedom in the right places of course. Hunting is not a huge thing over here, but there are places where you are allowed to hunt, and there are many farmers who are happy to allow hunting on their land. Roos are the main targets, but I also know a few people who hunt goats (wild), and also there are some wild pigs that are good hunting - but you have to know where to go for them. Bunnies everywhere, but they more often trapped than hunted.

I know of a few ranges and clubs where you can use your own firearms or they have them for hire for range use. At the ranges you don't have to have a licence to use them.

We lock our cars and our doors at night, and you do hear on the news about home invasions every now and then, but I just don't feel the need to arm myself.

One of the many good things about where I live.

 

[fastjav390]

On 3/17/2017 at 11:01 PM, DaveW said:

Don't want to derail that thread so.....

 

I sure am glad that I don't live in a place where I would feel it a necessity to concealed carry at all times.

I am glad I don't live in a place where I would feel it necessary to have a loaded weapon by my bedside or next to my front door.

Whether or not YOU think I should anyway, I don't feel any need to be armed in my society - and I am glad of it. 

 

Please note thst I am not saying anyone is wrong to have or feel like they have to have a weapon for protection.

I am saying I am glad that I don't live in a place where I would feel it a necessity. 

Praise the Lord for that about where I live. 

 

If you lock your door at night then you live in that kind of area. If you don't lock up, well, I wish you the best.

[DaveW]

15 minutes ago, fastjav390 said:

If you lock your door at night then you live in that kind of area. If you don't lock up, well, I wish you the best.

What does that even mean???????

 

[swathdiver]

One might reckon that you fear your car being stolen or sippy cup but not your wife or children.  Said another way, you fear and or prepare for one level of threat but not a higher level threat.

I live in a fallen world with deviants of all kinds around me and my family.  I am too infirm to defend them like Chuck Norris and have deferred to Indiana Jones' method of dealing with those kinds of threats.

[fastjav390]

On 3/20/2017 at 0:06 AM, DaveW said:

What does that even mean???????

 

Really, you don't understand that? Must be a cultural thing.

If you feel the need to lock your door at night then you realize that there's a chance someone might come in uninvited and with bad intentions.

If you don't lock up at night then I wish you the best because you are leaving yourself open as an easy target.

Nothing hard to understand about that.

Edited March 21, 2017 by fastjav390

[DaveW]

Did you not read my second post?

I am no fool - locking doors and locking cars is reasonable, but where I am I feel no need to arm myself for protection.

 

I AM GLAD THAT I LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE I DON'T FEEL I NEED TO ARM MYSELF.

 

I also feel sorry for you folks who live in places where you feel that you have to arm yourself.

 

Ask yourself - where would rather live?

In a place where you feel so threatened that you have to arm yourself, or in a place where you feel comfortable being unarmed?

I COULD ARM MYSELF IF I WISHED, but I don't feel it necessary.

 

 

 

[Ukulelemike]

We keep a certain number of firearms, but mostly for the standard farm purposes: coyotes, the occasional mountain lion, badgers, ravens, for butchering a goat, or an animal need to be put down. Most of the predator issues are taken care of by our livestock guardian dogs, but should they fail, we have the firearms.  There IS the occasional human threat, living way out where we do, so they are also kept for such emergencies-where we live a lot of people like to go out and shoot at cans and such, but if they are too close, a high warning shot usually gets them doing the right thing. I only carried a weapon once when I thought there might be a reason to have it, but I ended up witnessing to him the gospel and he left of his own accord. Suddenly there was something more important than to be hanging around the farm with no purpose. Never had to even show it. The Sword worked better than the gun.

[Alimantado]

1 hour ago, Ukulelemike said:

We keep a certain number of firearms, but mostly for the standard farm purposes: coyotes, the occasional mountain lion, badgers, ravens, for butchering a goat, or an animal need to be put down.

Don't forget cleaning the chimney...

[swathdiver]

On 3/21/2017 at 11:49 AM, Alimantado said:

Don't forget cleaning the chimney...

Yep, might be some tasty fowl flying around that chimney!  

DaveW: Don't feel sorry for me and my fellow Americans.  With the Lord's blessings, our guns have secured our freedoms for hundreds of years while most nations' people exist to serve the state and whose governments are marching toward global communism.  The Constitution of the United States was the bulwark that kept America from becoming the likes of France, England and Germany for over 200 years.

As resident Aussie Steve Lee sings, I like guns.   

 

[heartstrings]

I consider my sidearm like a fire extinguisher. I hope I never need it but it's there if I ever do. So far my house hasn't caught on fire but the fire extinguisher is there. Likewise some of my sheep still carry the genes for horns. They go about their sheepy business every day like the horns aren't even there. But I've seen mother sheep go into action when my dog gets too close. If the Good Lord saw fit for a sheep to have defensive weapons, methinks He doesn't expect us to be helpless either. Since we don't have claws, sharp teeth or horns, we use the brains God gave us to make and use tools for our needs.

Edited March 23, 2017 by heartstrings

[Invicta]

17 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Yep, might be some tasty fowl flying around that chimney!  

DaveW: Don't feel sorry for me and my fellow Americans.  With the Lord's blessings, our guns have secured our freedoms for hundreds of years while most nations' people exist to serve the state and whose governments are marching toward global communism.  The Constitution of the United States was the bulwark that kept America from becoming the likes of France, England and Germany for over 200 years.

As resident Aussie Steve Lee sings, I like guns.   

Yes, guns have killed many Americans, and not only in wars.  

I am happy living in England and far prefer that to a land which worshipos guns.

Edited March 23, 2017 by Invicta

[Salyan]

It's interesting to see the cultural division of views on this topic. I would have thought that the division might be colonial vs old world... but it's not, since Australia seems to share the same view as Britain.  The history of America certainly give us a clue to why, by and large, the right to bear  arms is so precious to them. Just look at the second amendment. 

I, for one, rather agree with that amendment, although its effectiveness is a bit outdated. Every government, even the ones that allow their citizens to bear some arms, has taken measurements to ensure that citizens do not have access to the same level of fire arms as the military, Thus ensuring that the government always has the upper hand in any conflicts – foreign and domestic. 

Maybe the division really comes down to: how much do you trust government? And do you consider it the right and duty of the citizens to stand up against unjust government?  This question isnt just a political one, but has both scriptural and doctoral implications. 

[DaveW]

Australia have never had a civil war.

In fact we have never had a real war within our bounds.

When the English first came, it was a peaceful arrival, but it degenerated into what was essentially a takeover of the aboriginal lands - but it was so one sided where there were hostilities that it was hardly a war.

And in many places the aboriginal people accepted the newcomers as friends......

Guns have only ever been used for hunting or for war outside our boundaries.

We don't even habe a "wild-west" gunslingers history.

Our wild west was just not like that.

We had "bushrangers" who robbed at gunpoint, but even those reports rarely involved people actually using guns.

The point I was trying to get to is that the culture and heritage surrounding guns is different here to what it is in the US...... but few US people even try to understand that.

In fact, the culture here is different in many ways, but the number of US missionaries who come here and think they can just plant bible belt 'merica here is amazing.

Different culture folks.

 

But I am still glad I live in a place where I don't feel it necessary to arm myself.

And I am sorry for those who feel they have to.