Making America Great Again

[fastjav390]

On 1/28/2017 at 1:44 AM, Alan said:

 

I understand that wikipedia is not the best source for a lot of things. I did a quick search on the internet concerning Executive Orders and came away somewhat disappointed. Maybe, you, or one of the other brethren more knowledgeable in Executive Orders, may be able to start a different thread in order to teach us further on Executive Orders.

Please take note, in my previous posts, I have tried (maybe not completely successful), to let all of us know that his actions thus far have been through Executive Orders and not by laws mandated by congress. As I stated before, President Trump is using the Executive Orders as a tool to overcome the destructive policies of the Obama administration, the feminists, the Socialists, the Communists, and the Democrats, who have tied to destroy the greatness of America. I do sincerely believe that the Executive Orders issued thus far will help America out of the fiscal mess our country is in through unfair trade agreements,  hinder Muslim extremists from entering America, and help America become great again.

Due to the nature of politics, the character flaws of Trump, and the extreme amount of lies that we hearing from the lying press and Democratic liberals, I deliberately wanted to limit the discussion on just the positive actions that President Trump is taking that will help America become great again. So, you are correct about not wanting negative posts about Trump; his flaws are many. So, forgive me for being so slanted in this thread.  I do though want to hear your thoughts on whether or not the steps he is taking is beneficial to our country. I am trying to make the distinction between Trumps character flaws and his actions. I know this is hard for all of us; but I am trying.

It is my sincere hope that the Congress fulfills its obligations as defenders of the Constitution of the United States and makes the laws necessary to make our country great again as President Trump is attempting to do. It is my hope that after a period of time that President Trump, or some other legislator, introduces legislation to make the actions that is being done through Executive Orders now, and make these changes permanent.

Alan

Executive Orders, as far as I see it, are for the purpose of pushing the issue to the Supreme Court. Especially since Congress is totally useless expect when it comes to voting themselves raises.

On 1/25/2017 at 4:05 PM, No Nicolaitans said:

Also, let's remember that a nation's "greatness" (or lack thereof) may not necessarily mean that a particular nation is enjoying the blessings of God.

Rome was one of the most (if not the most) hedonistic, horrific, deviant, and idolatrous nations to ever have existed...yet, they were a "great" nation. They ruled the world for 500+ years, but I just don't believe they did so through the blessings of God. However, God used Rome to fulfill his purpose. Rome was a major player in the events surrounding Christ and the apostles...so he "allowed" them to be a "great" nation.

Can America be great again? Most certainly it can. What's one way for that to happen? For its rulers to follow biblical principles despite the sin that may be prevalent. We are into the beginning days of Trump's presidency, but I have hope that despite Trump's personal lack of biblical principles knowledge, he appears to be making some wise decisions that can be traced to biblical principles...which is a far cry from Obama's open and public ridicule and mockery of God's word; in which, he showed his own lack of understanding of God's word.

As bad as Rome was they never recognized gay marriage or murdered 50 millions babies within a 40 year period. I think once we turn on Israel that will be the final straw.

[Ukulelemike]

12 hours ago, fastjav390 said:

America isn't Israel. There is no Abrahamic or Davidic covenant between America and God so he has no obligation to us. God destroyed nations to brings Israel back to himself. Also, I recall a place in the OT where it says God was taking away the righteous to spare them from the wrath to come.

Okay then, consider the great wickedness of Nineveh and the Assyrians-they were some of the absolute cruelest peoples of that area-they wouldn't just conquor a nation, they would take the men women and children and flay them alive and impale them, alive, on posts all over. They would cover posts with their skins. Then God sent Jonah to let them know they were going to all die for their wickedness. Mind you, NO option was given for them to repent and be forgiven, yet repent they did and they WERE forgiven.  And Nineveh, if you're not sure, is NOT Israel and has no covenant standing with the Lord.

God repsonds to repentance, regardless of where that repentance comes from. If America repents, or there are those who maintain a spirit of repentance, Like Sodom and Gomorrah, will God spare the wicked for the sake of the righteous? I see no reason why not.

[fastjav390]

4 hours ago, Ukulelemike said:

Okay then, consider the great wickedness of Nineveh and the Assyrians-they were some of the absolute cruelest peoples of that area-they wouldn't just conquor a nation, they would take the men women and children and flay them alive and impale them, alive, on posts all over. They would cover posts with their skins. Then God sent Jonah to let them know they were going to all die for their wickedness. Mind you, NO option was given for them to repent and be forgiven, yet repent they did and they WERE forgiven.  And Nineveh, if you're not sure, is NOT Israel and has no covenant standing with the Lord.

God repsonds to repentance, regardless of where that repentance comes from. If America repents, or there are those who maintain a spirit of repentance, Like Sodom and Gomorrah, will God spare the wicked for the sake of the righteous? I see no reason why not.

Yes, but Nineveh and the Assyrians are long gone. They lasted about 100 more years after Jonah got them to repent. They still ended up having to account for their behavior as a nation. 

I honestly don't see this happening in America. Some great fifth awakening. Too many doors have been opened, too many flood gates release, too many roads traveled down. One reason is because the nation is not united anymore because of multiculturalism. Just now I read where some Baptist organization is backing the building of a Mosque in New Jersey. 

I don't think the next great revival or national repentance will happen until the Great Tribulation.

[Jim_Alaska]

 

 

[Alan]

Jim Alaska,

Wonderful!

Thank you very much for the song, "Search Me O God." The song was a welcome addition to this discussion on how to Make America Great Again. America needs revival in the hearts of the saints, and the restoration of the biblical doctrines in the churches. Once revival has set in the churches hopefully the people in power in our goverment will follow righteous law and regulations. Please feel free to post any other song that you feel appropriate in any of my threads.

Brethren,

Please feel free to post any song, traditional only please, that you feel will be a blessing to the message of the thread.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/30/trump-signs-executive-order-to-drastically-cut-federal-regs.html

 

President Trump just signed an extememely important Exectutive Order concerning that no new Federal Regulations are to be initiated unless there are two Federal Regulations to be eliminated. All of the new Federal Regulations are to be checked by the  OMB (Office of management & Budget), in order to determine the cost involved.

Brethern,

This Executive Order will help eliminate the destructive Federal Regulations that the Obama Administration, and the liberal Democratic Party, have forced upon America. Through these destructive regulations, the liberals, the Socialists,the communists, the feminists, the racists, the wackos, have tried to destroy American businesses', have caused fiscal irresponsibility, and they have used these destructive regulations to try and to control the personal property rights of the American farmer and other citizens.

President Trump is trying to bring back Federal governmental fiscal responsibility to America. He is also trying to eliminate federal regulations that have hurt the American farming community and personal property rights.

May God help President Trump succeed in his effort to bring back fiscal respnsibility to America and to restore our personal property rights as the Constitution guarantees.

Alan

Edited January 31, 2017 by Alan
grammer (twice)

[heartstrings]

http://times.com.mx/executive-order-leads-to-capture-of-isis-leader-rasheed-muhammad/

[Alan]

Brethren,

I deleted my comments on the news story about a terroist, Mohammed, being caught at the New York airport as John Young brought it to our attention that the news site quoted is a fake, or questionable, news source. I checked Fox News and could not find any such story. My apologies are in order.

John Young,

Thank you for informing us that the news source that I referenced is either a fake news site or questionable. I appreciate your double-checking the source.

Alan

Edited February 1, 2017 by Alan
grammer deletion of story due to questionable source

[swathdiver]

11 hours ago, heartstrings said:

http://times.com.mx/executive-order-leads-to-capture-of-isis-leader-rasheed-muhammad/

I think this is a bogus site.  Cannot verify this anywhere else.  Some say the site is bogus, used to plant false stories.

[John Young]

11 hours ago, heartstrings said:

http://times.com.mx/executive-order-leads-to-capture-of-isis-leader-rasheed-muhammad/

Unfortunately this is FAKE NEWS. "Times.com.mx" is not a real news site (if you notice they do not have a page on who they are or located) and this story is completely fake. the picture is from a 2009 story about Najibullah Zazi, an Al-Qaeda operative, who was arrested on for his conspiracy to blow up the NY subway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najibullah_Zazi. There is no such person as Rasheed Muhammad known to be associated with ISIS. 

As much as I would love to have real good news start rolling in, we need to be careful about the sites from were we get our news and the stories we see. Just because they are what we want to hear does not mean we should believe them.

Edited February 1, 2017 by John Young

[Invicta]

There is a lot of fake news about at present.  We did have a TV programme about fake news recently, but I didn't watch it so can't comment further.  

[Jim_Alaska]

On 1/30/2017 at 3:40 PM, Alan said:

Brethern,

This Executive Order will help eliminate the destructive Federal Regulations that the Obama Administration, and the liberal Democratic Party, have forced upon America. Through these destructive regulations, the liberals, the Socialists,the communists, the feminists, the racists, the wackos, have tried to destroy American businesses', have caused fiscal irresponsibility, and they have used these destructive regulations to try and to control the personal property rights of the American farmer and other citizens.

President Trump is trying to bring back Federal governmental fiscal responsibility to America. He is also trying to eliminate federal regulations that have hurt the American farming community and personal property rights.

May God help President Trump succeed in his effort to bring back fiscal responsibility to America and to restore our personal property rights as the Constitution guarantees.

Alan

Bro. Alan,

I appreciated your comments on "Making America Great Again". Like most here at OB, I do have a life outside of these forums. I am very active in my church, but I am also active politically as a self appointed advocate for property and mining rights that you mentioned in the post I quoted.

In this capacity I have seen and worked against the widespread erosion of our rights guaranteed by both our constitution as well as congress. I work with Federal legislators that are responsive to the cause of citizens rights, I testify at various comment hearings for both Federal, as well as local government meetings. I supply legislators with important facts that they struggle with. Currently I have been working with our local county supervisors on issues that have been detrimental to our people during the last administration, by formulating official county letters to various heads of the new Trump administration. So far Donald Trump's picks for heading up key agencies has the potential for radical change for the better.

For too long our citizens have been beset by radical environmental and tribal special interests that have infiltrated key Federal and State agencies, whose sole purpose is the dismantling of our once great economic infrastructure.. It is my hope that this new administration can get our country back on track and once again make it the greatest bastion of freedom for all peoples.

[1Timothy115]

8 hours ago, John Young said:

As much as I would love to have real good news start rolling in, we need to be careful about the sites from were we get our news and the stories we see. Just because they are what we want to hear does not mean we should believe them.

Yes, fact check until there is no doubt.

[Alan]

President Trump attended the National Prayer breakfast.

At the breakfast, President Trump expressed that he will defend freedom of worship and express his views that his immigration policy will benefit America and our religious freedoms that we enjoy through the Constitution.

Here is the article: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/02/trump-vows-to-protect-religious-liberty-and-knocks-arnold-at-national-prayer-breakfast.html

The protection of  our religious freedom will not only help our country become great again but it will be a blessing to every saint here on OnLine Baptist as they  serve the Lord

 

On 2017/2/1 at 11:17 PM, Jim_Alaska said:

In this capacity I have seen and worked against the widespread erosion of our rights guaranteed by both our constitution as well as congress. I work with Federal legislators that are responsive to the cause of citizens rights, I testify at various comment hearings for both Federal, as well as local government meetings. I supply legislators with important facts that they struggle with. Currently I have been working with our local county supervisors on issues that have been detrimental to our people during the last administration, by formulating official county letters to various heads of the new Trump administration. So far Donald Trump's picks for heading up key agencies has the potential for radical change for the better.

For too long our citizens have been beset by radical environmental and tribal special interests that have infiltrated key Federal and State agencies, whose sole purpose is the dismantling of our once great economic infrastructure.. It is my hope that this new administration can get our country back on track and once again make it the greatest bastion of freedom for all peoples.

Brethren,

Jim Alaska is correct.

Federal agencies (the Bureau of Land Management as one example), overreach, by regulation, is a danger to the personal property rights of all Americans. Thus far, President Trumps selections for individuals to head government agencies has revealed his selections have been conservative, patriotic individuals who will follow the Constitution.

I am not totally familiar with individual cases. If anybody knows of specific areas where some unjust  regulations are being overturned, or actions by specific individuals seeking to overturn regulations contrary to the Constitutional, or personal property rights, please let us know. 

 

[fastjav390]

So far it seems everything Trump is doing is right and the best for America. He sure won't get it all right but I doubt you'll see anymore things like nuns being sued by the federal government over abortion or Christians losing their homes and businesses over gay wedding cakes. Well, let's hope not.

I just have a bad feeling he won't make it through his term as POTUS. Either the Dems and RINO's will gang up on him and have him impeached or he'll be assassinated. The man really needs our prayers and support.

Edited February 4, 2017 by fastjav390

[Jim_Alaska]

I would think it extremely difficult to impeach him given the change in both senate and house.