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John Young

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  1. In a church I helped with here in Michigan considers Pastor and deacon as church offices separately accountable to the congregation. The Pastor was in charge of all things Spiritual and the deacons in all thins material. In particular this was necessary because it was a small church with bi-vocational pastors who often talked the talk but did not have the long term goals of the church in mind and only after they were there for a while would it come out that they weren't planning on growing the church or being there for very long and would only want material control to help themselves to the re
  2. Ezekiel 18:20 is about each person's sin actions during the time of their nation's destruction. Gehazi's punishment was a physical condition past down to his descendants. While things we do can affect those in this life God will judge our souls based on things we personally decide to do and not on what our parents decide. For ever is referring to the leprosery and not to the descendants. It doesn't mean for all eternity he'll have descendants. For all we know he decided not to have anymore descendants. Additionally we know leprosery won't extend into eternity and so it only refers to
  3. It really depends on the audience. If I'm at a street corner preaching mainly to red light traffic and cross walkers then I limit it to gospel verses with small explanations and a plea to believe on Christ, lasting no more than a minute at a time but I'll cycle through several gospel verses and thoughts just in case someone stopes to listen for a few minute. If you know that they'll be in earshot longer than five or ten minutes like a bus stop area or park you can have a more complete plan with themes and if more then 15, as in a college campus, event, fair, etc. where people are not in
  4. Well it was in the name....I'm sure it wouldn't have been as bad if it was called Peacemaker Fundamentalist forums or Grow in Grace, etc. (lol)
  5. Its pretty clear it was just after his baptism that they went full time following Jesus on his three year evangelistic ministry. Some think his ministry was only six months long though, other s claim only a year and a half, so maybe that was what he was thinking but I think for those numbers you really have to mess with the scriptures structure too much.
  6. This short but powerful message of Alan's sums up his life's mission. He lived it to the very end for the Glory of God. Another classic sermon of his was about heaven and the New Jerusalem. He loved the topic and now he is living it. These two messages from Alan will be a blessing to hear. Though he is gone we will meet him again!
  7. Ten Years after the resurrection of Christ we find that the church in Jerusalem is prospering and the Jews are becoming more and more jealous of the popularity of Christ. This was particularly felt during the Passover week (days of unleavened bread), as the Christians focused less on the Exodus aspects of Passover and more on the Christian aspects culminating with Easter (sunrise) morning Resurrection on the first day of the week after. On this tenth anniversary of the crucifixion Herod wanted to please the Jews by harassing the church by taking Apostle James and executing him. Seeing thi
  8. You could always do what the kings did and write your own updated copy.... That way it can be in your very own version of the English language. Deuteronomy 17:18-20 And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites: 19 and it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the Lord his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them: 20 that his heart be not lifted up above his brethren, and that he t
  9. What would be your alternative solution to update these while retaining their accuracy?
  10. It must be because it also still uses the word besom.....
  11. A good translation from english speaking breathern can come from the KJV into a any native language but a refined accurate and precise translation most likely will have to come from the work of the native breathern themselves. Unless the native Christian equips themselves for the task, they will not have a perfect translation in their own language.
  12. I appreciate your comments and I think they show the right spirit in which most faithful King James Bible users approach the scriptures.
  13. And that's the issue with updating based on archaism. Words and grammar fall in and out of common use. The fact that the King James has been the common bible for over 400 years and has been attributed to being one of the major influence in stabilizing English, means that even if a section of the population feels that portions are out of date, that is only their subjective opinion. Because of its common status and continued influance and role in English psych, everything contained in it, other than spelling changed from 1611, is not archaic. Rather, as part of popular english christian li
  14. It not endless debate. Rather it points to the disconnect with our translation philosophies, as to the primary purpose for the scripters we use.
  15. Okay then....Do you believe they can understand the Spiritual aspects of scripture without the Spirit of Christ?
  16. Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. John 1:6-7 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. The Book of John was written to explain the Spiritual aspects of the gospel to the believer and in the first chapter it explains a witness from God was needed for the lost to comprehend. Before one can believe the scriptures they must first repent unto God and the B
  17. So do you want to update the bible for unbelievers to be able to understand it on their own? I don't think such a thing is truly possible. They need a Spirit filled preacher to speak the Words of Life. I would rather have a written bible that equips the believer, so that the believer can do what they were commissioned to do. John 7:38-39 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not
  18. Its a basic bible concept. God committed the oracles* first to the church in the wilderness and then to us, his NT church with the commission to preach and teach it. The believer has the Spirit of Christ within them which convicts the lost through preaching. The lost cannot believe without the Chrisitian preaching it to them. *4. Among christians, oracles, in the plural, denotes the communications, revelations or messages delivered by God to prophets. In this sense it is rarely used in the singular; but we say, the oracles of God, divine oracles, meaning the Scriptures. ~Webster's 1828
  19. God tasked the church with converting the lost and edifying the saints through the geat commission but scripture was written to equip the church in that task. However, It was not written for the unbeliever /lost to read and understand on their own. 1 Corinthians 2:13-14 KJV Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually disc
  20. The bible wasn't written for unbelievers. It was written for the church to use.
  21. I just ordered this digital notebook to help with writing my notes to text. So far from my research (at $200) it seems to be the best compromise to the ReMarkable 2 ($500+). Anything over $200 I would just go with the Lenovo Duet (At $250 with keyboard and cover included and pens for a small extra cost, it is the best value/quality alternative to the Surface Pro $600+). I'll try to do a review of the "ORIGIN" after I get it for those interested. I got my wife the Lenovo Duet and she loves it. It has replaced her laptop and it is practically a do it all device. It doesn't have a lot of bui
  22. That's fine. I' haven't attacked you. I simply shared my concerns with your terminology and my views on the subject matter. You and anyone else can share your "Thoughts about an update to the KJV" in this thread if you want as well. In my opinion "archaisms" is a fundamentally is flawed concept. Much less one that should be a primary consideration in updating scripture. As an example, the material of Mark Ward in particular shows the extent to which this concept takes over in one's mind to turn much of the words one is not familiar with into "archaisms". So no, I personally to not
  23. It really depends on who you talk to. Its a very subject specific concept.
  24. The best ways to solve an issue is often the simplest. Practically all modern versions were made to solve the problem of "archaism" yet many still want to make another and another. I'm beginning to think our problem is not a lack of updates but rather that too many people refuse to give up the KJV for updates, so they keep offering us more. They ask: "How much change will you accept to move from the archaic version?" Here is my answer: Until the conversation stops being about the "archaism" in scripture and returns to the "purity" of God's word, I won't even consider your new up
  25. Not all edifying conversations are agreeable in nature and at times will reveal an area of disagreement between those engaged in it but its still an edifying conversation because the intent is still, as Webster's 1828 says, "To instruct and improve the mind in knowledge generally, and particularly in moral and religious knowledge, in faith and holiness." I don't have any malicious intent in dealing with this matter here but am simply trying to help and show the reason for the greater conflict among translators. The only way we (modernist, Biblicists, and those who try to mix the two syste
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