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1 Thessalonians 2:14, "Followers of Other Good Churches" "For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews." 1 Thessalonians 2:14 The apostle Paul had previously shown how the churches, which were regional, or local, in Judaea, a region of Israel, had suffered intense persecution by their own countrymen. The Thessalonian saints willingly followed the examples of the churches, or assemblies, of the saints in Judaea in following Christ. And, because of their faith in following Christ, and His doctrines, the Thessalonian church was persecuted by their own countrymen. The apostle Paul is very clear in his meaning. The churches in Judaea were separate congregations of believers from the churches in Thessalonica. The two regions, or local areas, were not connected, or governed, in any manner, with any ecclesiastical hierarchy, bishop, Pope, Priest, denomination, or other governmental body. The church, as a body of believers, in Thessalonica willingly made the decision to follow the example of the good churches in Judaea. A true New Testament church does not have any ecclesiastical body over them. All New Testament churches, or assemblies, are independent and make their own decisions in church matters.

John, Your meaning was clear the first time your made it. SAB76 miss-used your clear meaning. Your second meaning is also very clear and worth repeating. Alan

Yep, after 2,400,789 posts, the winner will be So sad!

One of the books that Carl Schmidt wrote was a biography on Don Sisk. Don Sisk is the Emeritus Mission Director of BIMI. I have met brother Don Sisk at a Missions Conference, many years ago, and consider him a man of God. Don Sisk, to my knowledge, is IFB. Here is a link to BIMI and Don Sisk: https://www.bimi.org/content/abSisk.php

Excellent observation. I am in agreement.

Wretched, I agree with your writings on globalism, socialism, leftists, the billionaires and there agenda, etc... except for one point. I do not think, but will not argue the point, that the 'lie' of 2 Thessalonians 2:11 is the lie of "globalism" and all that it entails. It is my firm understanding that the United Nations, the globalists, Socialists, etc... are leading up the one-world government that will be led by the anti-Christ. It is my firm understanding that the events on Genesis 11:1-10, the tower of babel, will be repeated on a world-wide scale with the United Nations, and the globalists, at the head. So, I agree with the article except that I believe the 'lie' is not the globalist movement.

Quite frankly, the title of this thread is misleading and somewhat deceitful. The title implies that Baptists do not fast and therefore Baptists are not spiritual and do not obey the admonition to fast. This is one of the reasons why I have never commented on this thread the years that I have been on Online Baptist. In other words, the title of this thread already insinuates that "Baptists" do not fast which is an error. Quite a few "Baptists" do fast; they just don't tell everyone about it. Why? The Lord Jesus said, "Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face; That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father, which seest in secret, shall reward thee openly." Matthew 6:16-18 Normally, when I fast, and I am a Baptist, only my wife knows as she cooks the food I would normally eat and maybe the children. 'nuff said.

Maybe, maybe not. Rumour has it that the the, Last one to post in this thread wins,' is not in the original Greek. So, it depends one which manuscript you are reading.

Looking forward to that day: especially chapter 20-22.

Can anybody give us an example of an IFB church having a church app?

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Will pray.

If the mods do decide on some sort of introduction, it would help all of us if we had more than a brief introduction. In other words, some introductions are maybe a sentence or two in length, with no real testimony, no real church affiliation, a very broad statement of salvation, work in the church, etc... Some of the introductions are so generic, short, broad in scope and meaning that they are almost useless in letting us know who we are dealing with. Maybe the mods can suggest in some way a paragraph on salvation, church affiliation, whether or not the individual is in the ministry, etc... Also, as with the last two individuals, in the last two weeks, they joined and immediately they got into a very controversial subject and we really do not know much of their background. It is obvious to me that the last two individuals joined Online Baptist knowing what we believed and came just to cause trouble and stir us up. I suspect they are laughing behind our backs and enjoying the fireworks that they cause. And, probably, except for one or two instances, the malcontents are not even taking the time to get to know us, be friendly to us, or have some fellowship.

Thank you for your comment wretched.

President Trump is truly a great leader of the United States of America and is using the office of the Presidency for the citizens of the United States in order to make America the great country it used to be and as our Founding Fathers sought it to be. President Trump said, "The future does not belong to globalists. The future belongs to patriots. The future belongs to sovereign and independent nations." President Trump said, "It is why we in the United States have embarked in an exciting program of national renewal." "Excerpt from The anti-Globalists Speech" President Trump on September 24, 2019 before the United Nations General Assembly

I appreciate Pastor Markle adding more pertinent information concerning Emmanuel Baptist Church in Sandusky, MI than I was given.

Brethren, There is a fine IFB, strong KJV, church in Eastern Michigan that is in need of a pastor or pulpit supply. The church runs around 25 solid saints, does not have any doctrinal, moral, financial, or other large problems. More than likely the pastor would need a secular job (but I am not sure of the financial arrangements). Send me a private message (pm), here on Online Baptist if interested or if you know of someone who is interested. Alan

Amen and amen

1Timothy115, Sounds like the series of Psalm 119 will be very good. Does your church have a website where they will upload the sermons? If so, can you please give us the website address as I would like to listen and there may be others also. If the church does not have a website to upload the series of Psalm 119, can I suggest that you put one of them, you select the one you like the best, as a devotion? Alan

So, since you consider me more wicked, and ungodly, than Pilate and in your eyes I am a Pharisee. And, you despise me, I will heed the admonition of Solomon, "Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words." Proverbs 23:9

Our next look at the local church in First & Second Thessalonians will be in 1 Thessalonians 2:14. In 1 Thessalonians 2:14 the apostle Paul makes mention of the churches in Judea, so, you may want to review the lesson on Acts 8:1-3 and 9:31, "Persecution Against the Local Church," given on this thread on September 15, 2018. Here is that link:

SAB76, Our discussion, and relationship, and friendship, would improve dramatically if you would stop calling us "Pharisaical," or other words to the same effect. Also, it would help our mutual relationship if you would either delete, or stikethrough, the sentences that already have "Pharisaical" connotations. Thank you. Alan

Brethren, My reply to SAB76 is written in red. No matter how a person uses "to" or "of" or uses the word "wife", 1 Timothy 3:4-5 is very clear that a divorced man cannot be the pastor, or bishop, or elder, of a church because if he cannot take care of his own house well than he cannot take care of the church. As a personal note. Throughout my years in the ministry I have noticed that many men, who will not accept being denied being a pastor due to being divorced, will try every reasoning, every excuse, in order to force the interpretation that SAB76 is presenting and will ignore the clear words of 1 Timothy 2:4 & 5," "One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) If a man is the pastor of the church and cannot rule one wife well than he does not have the ability, or calling from God as according to the scriptures, to take care of the church of God. Alan

I am of the same opinion Jim. Besides the matter of the qualifications of the office of an Apostle (that an apostle must have seen Christ as a risen Saviour), Acts 1:22 brings out very clearly that if a church, or an assembly, or an denomination, is not following the baptism of John the Baptist than that church, or assembly, or denomination, is not a New Testament church. I, and I am sure others here on Online Baptist, appreciate all of the side information that has a bearing on the local church. So, thank you for you welcomed addition to this study.

It's amazing to me what the ladies find in the kitchen!