Time Period of Dinosaurs

[lettheredeemedsayso]

There are no such things as dinosaurs. It's all a big conspiracy like carbon dating and telescopes.

And your evidence for this is.....?

[trc123]

And your evidence for this is.....?

I believe he was speaking "tongue'n cheek."

[heartstrings]

I believe he was speaking "tongue'n cheek."

I concur...
And they didn't go to the moon either.

[HappyChristian]

Romans 5:12

[heartstrings]

Romans 5:12

[ptwild]

Is it not possible that dinosaurs were already extinct before the flood? That's the most reasonable conclusion as I see it.

[HappyChristian]

[Anon]

Job lived after the flood and I tend to take the descriptions in the book literally rather than figuratively, but many would disagree. However the descriptions do fit in with fossils and also other scientific information available, so there's no reason not to take it literally.

[ptwild]

Job lived after the flood and I tend to take the descriptions in the book literally rather than figuratively, but many would disagree. However the descriptions do fit in with fossils and also other scientific information available, so there's no reason not to take it literally.

This assumes that the creatures mentioned by Job were what we call dinosaurs today, and not some other large reptile or amphibian (or whatever, it isn't much of a description) that hasn't since become distinct.

Happy: There is no reason to believe that "sea monsters" and Komodo Dragons are dinosaurs as we call them today. One of the key characteristics of dinosaurs is that they are not extinct, which Komodo Dragons are not.

I think people are getting confused because of the way we describe things in today's terms by using hindsight. What people in Job's time might have thought were dinosauers (as far as they knew back then) we might possibly know today to not be dinosauers, but just another of the hundreds of extinct animals that are not dinos. I really don't see the relevancy or point of the discussion.

[HappyChristian]

The term dinosaur means "fearfully great lizard," or giant reptile. And it is a modern day term - people back in Job's day didn't call them dinosaurs.

Reptiles still exist today. Some of them (like the Komodo Dragon) could be descendents of what scientists have called dinosaurs...just not as big 'cause they don't live as long.

[Bakershalfdozen]

Nobody said there were 'men' living before the garrden; we're talking about dinosaurs.

6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

"The world that then was" ........pretty plainly indicates there has been more than one "world" so maybe "world" does not mean the "planet"? And there WAS a murdering liar (the devil) on this planet before Adam sinned. John 8:44

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Those verses are speaking of those who deny Noah's Global Flood and say that everything in this world has continued as it was since the beginning...

The world that was then (Pre-Flood) was overflowed with water (Flood) and destroyed in judgment. This current earth (Post-Flood) is destined for fire as judgment.

It doesn't say that there was an earth that was destroyed by water and then another earth that had a world-wide cataclysmic flood and then is destined for fire.

All one earth, two global judgments.

[heartstrings]

Now you're changing terms "world" to "earth".
The Bible says "the world that then was" indicating a past and a present world...both....on the same planet. Understand?

[ptwild]

The term dinosaur means "fearfully great lizard," or giant reptile. And it is a modern day term - people back in Job's day didn't call them dinosaurs.

Reptiles still exist today. Some of them (like the Komodo Dragon) could be descendents of what scientists have called dinosaurs...just not as big 'cause they don't live as long.

Your using a definition (or a definition based on the latin root words, not the actual use of the word) in a technical way without regard to context. Of course there is such a thing as giant (which is a subjective adjective for "bigger than what is accpeted as normal") reptiles which are not dinosauers. The same would be true for Jobs time.

Think of it like this: if Job was talking about T-Rex and the like, don't you believe that they (the people fo the time) would have included these giant, man eating monsters in their literature. Wouldn't they be just as concerned about a "lizard" that could kill off their entire crop with one foot step and devour their entire family with one swallow, as they were with locust and draughts? Wouldn't we have more than just a few lines out of one book discussing them. Let us not forget that there were people composing literature during Jobs time, other than Jews, spread across the globe and we have no indication in any of their literature of what we consider today as dinosauers. The only plausible conclusion is that what we consider today to be dinosauers were already extinct during Job's time and before the flood. The fossil record supports this just as much as common since does.

[HappyChristian]

Now you're changing terms "world" to "earth".
The Bible says "the world that then was" indicating a past and a present world...both....on the same planet. Understand?

Actually, the Bible seems to use them interchangeably in those verses. "The world that then was" both followed and preceded by the world "earth" - and the following "earth" being referred to as being "now." It was during the flood that the world that existed at the time was destroyed by water - and that flood changed quite a bit about what was before the flood - topography, human life and animal life included.

[Bakershalfdozen]

What she said...


Earth, world...Peter uses them both. Earth refers to the ground, soil and includes the inhabitants; world (kosmos) can refer to a system as well as the globe itself and includes the inhabitants.