Moderators Ukulelemike Posted January 16, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2014 We enjoy talking music here, how about this: list what you think are some of the worst hymns in the hymnals. Poor doctrine, weak music, even clear false teachings. We all love hymns here, but we have all come across some that are just, well, bad. We can also include hymns that have had changes made that have weakened them donctrinally. I will start out with this travesty: Precious Memories: Precious memories, unseen angels, Sent from somewhere to my soul. How they linger ever near me, And the sacred past unfolds. Precious memories how they linger, How they ever flood my soul. In the stillness of the midnight. Precious sacred scenes unfold. In the stillness of the midnight, Echoes from the past I hear. Old time singing, gladness ringing, From that lovely land somewhere. Precious memories how they linger, How they ever flood my soul. In the stillness of the midnight. Precious sacred scenes unfold. As I travel on life's pathway, I know not what the years may hold. As I ponder hope grows fonder, Precious memories flood my soul. Precious memories how they linger, How they ever flood my soul. In the stillness of the midnight. Precious sacred scenes unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 Have a Little Talk with..........BUDDAH I once was lost in sin but Jesus took me in Well then a little light from heaven healed my soul Well, he bathed my heart in love, and wrote my name above Well just a little talk with my Jesus gonna make it right We’ll just have a little talk with Jesus Were gonna tell him all about our troubles He will hear our fainted cry He will answer by and by Oh well, when you feel a little prayer wheel turningAnd you will know a little fire is burnin’ You will find a little talk with Jesus makes it right You may have doubts and fears Your eye be filled with tears Oh well my Jesus is a friend who watches day and night Well he wrote my name above, and he bathed my heart in love Oh well just a little talk with my Jesus gonna make it right Let us have a little talk with my Jesus Please let us tell him all about our troubles He will hear our faintest cry He will answer by and by Now when you feel a little prayer wheel turning You’ll know just a little fire is burnin’ And have a little talk with my Jesus gonna make it right Well you may have doubts and fears Your eye be filled with tears Oh well now my Jesus is a friend who watches day and night Well you go to him in prayer He answers my every prayer Oh well just a little talk with my Jesus gonna make it right Now let us have a little talk with my Jesus Tell him all about our troubles He will hear our faintest cry And I know hes gonna answer by and by Now when you feel a little prayer wheel turning You’ll know a little fire is burnin’ And have a little talk with my Jesus gonna make it right Make it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted January 16, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2014 Of course, this one is doctrinally wrong, also, because it is not Jesus we pray to, but God the Father. So there's that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 The Propaganda Hymn of the Republic Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord; he is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; he hath loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword; his truth is marching on. Refrain: Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on. 2. I have seen him in the watchfires of a hundred circling camps, they have builded him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read his righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps; his day is marching on. (Refrain) 3. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; he is sifting out the hearts of men before his judgment seat; O be swift, my soul, to answer him; be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on. (Refrain) 4. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, with a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me; as he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on. (Refrain) Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord; he is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; he hath loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword; his truth is marching on. Refrain: Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on. 2. I have seen him in the watchfires of a hundred circling camps, they have builded him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read his righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps; his day is marching on. (Refrain) 3. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; he is sifting out the hearts of men before his judgment seat; O be swift, my soul, to answer him; be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on. (Refrain) 4. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, with a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me; as he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on. (Refrain) 5. He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave, he is wisdom to the mighty, he is honor to the brave; so the world shall be his footstool, and the soul of wrong his slave. Our God is marching on. (Refrain) 5. He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave, he is wisdom to the mighty, he is honor to the brave; so the world shall be his footstool, and the soul of wrong his slave. Our God is marching on. (Refrain) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 Here's another that always bugs me for some reason.... A lighthouse, aside from not being in the Bible, is something that SHOWS the way...Jesus doesn't SHOW the way;He IS THE WAY. There's a lighthouse on the hillsideThat over looks life's seaAnd when I'm tossed it sends out a lightThat I might seeAnd the light that shines in darkness nowWill safely lead us o'erIf it wasn't for the LighthouseMy ship would be no moreEverybody that lives around usSays tear that Lighthouse downThe big ships they don't sail this way anymoreThere's no use of it standing roundThen my mind goes back to that stormy nightWhen just in time I saw the lightYes, the light from that old lighthouseThat stands there on the hillAnd I thank God for the LighthouseI owe my life to HimFor Jesus is the LighthouseAnd from the rocks of sinHe has shown a light around meThat I could clearly seeIf it wasn't for the Lighthouse (tell me)Where would this ship be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted January 16, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2014 Of course, this one is doctrinally wrong, also, because it is not Jesus we pray to, but God the Father. So there's that, too. Say what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 I always address "Heavenly Father" or "Lord". But the very first prayer I ever prayed was when I cried out directly to "JESUS".(Jehovah saves) and I'm sure God and everyone in the church house heard it. My former IFB pastor told me that we can pray directly to the Holy Ghost........ I haven't studied that one out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted January 16, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2014 The whole purpose of the "Lord's Prayer", as its often called, was to teach the disciples how to pray, and clearly, Jesus intended that they, thus, we, pray to the fatjer in Jesus' name. Yes, we go to Jesus for salvation, but otherwise, we go through Jesus to the Father. Jesus even said, in John 16:23-27, "And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God." Clearly Jesus inteded that we pray to the Father in His name, not to Jesus directly, nor to the Holy Spirit. Every example in scripture, New Testament, it is to the Father prayer is directed, not to Jesus. And not to the Holy Ghost. As far as I recall. Not in a position to check it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Covenanter Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 I think it's foolish & unprofitable to look for unscriptural hymns - except to query those in common use, or that we have been asked to sing. I had to reject this one by Getty/Townend because of the inclusion of concepts from the RC Mass. I doubt if the inclusion was deliberate on their part. We have RCs in the congregation you would likely have understood it in the RC sense. Behold the Lamb who bears our sins away, Slain for us: and we remember: The promise made that all who come in faith Find forgiveness at the cross. So we share in this Bread of life, And we drink of His sacrifice, As a sign of our bonds of peace Around the table of the King. - See more at: http://www.stuarttow...h.PQeFWZzA.dpuf Email to Pastor: Ann & I have looked carefully at "Behold the Lamb" & consider that we should not sing it as being too close to the RC mass. The opening line is John's testimony to Jesus (John 1) but is used by the priest when he lifts up the transubstantiated bread & declares "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." The wine is NOT a sacrifice so we cannot sing: "we drink of his sacrifice." As good Protestants, we might be able to explain the hymn to our own satisfaction, but we have RCs in our congregation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted January 16, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2014 I think it's foolish & unprofitable to look for unscriptural hymns - except to query those in common use, or that we have been asked to sing. I had to reject this one by Getty/Townend because of the inclusion of concepts from the RC Mass. I doubt if the inclusion was deliberate on their part. We have RCs in the congregation you would likely have understood it in the RC sense. Behold the Lamb who bears our sins away, Slain for us: and we remember: The promise made that all who come in faith Find forgiveness at the cross. So we share in this Bread of life, And we drink of His sacrifice, As a sign of our bonds of peace Around the table of the King. - See more at: http://www.stuarttow...h.PQeFWZzA.dpuf My point is to encourage us to look at our own practices as Christians. We get on the unscriptural CCM folks, while we tend to have some pretty unscriptural hymns in our hymnbooks, sometimes some that we have grown up with and never considered the false doctrines in them. I was inspired while listening to some hymns, and they kept playing the song I quoted in my first post-yet some consider this a wonderful hymns, even there is absolutely nothing scriptural about it. How about. The church in the wildwood"? Theres another one-it speaks of the church as the little brown building in the vale-even though the building isn't the church-yet its in IFB hymnals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro K Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 If we're going to go down this road; I'll give my . Lousy hymns are like Lousy sermons..... they're a dime a dozen!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paid4 Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 Unlike the Bible hymns are not inspired. They are written by people so they can't be perfect. I do think that you can see the heart and thoughts of the writer. I never liked the patriotic songs in the hymnal. I think they preserve the founding of our country but I don't like them in church. I am very much a red blooded American but I do feel there will be a day when we have to choose between God and country. God wins that one every time. Besides for God so loved the WORLD and has no respect of persons. How on earth did I get to this point talking about Hymns. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Nicolaitans Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 Of course, this one is doctrinally wrong, also, because it is not Jesus we pray to, but God the Father. So there's that, too. While I agree that prayer is mainly directed to God the Father and never to the Holy Spirit, praying directly to the Lord Jesus Christ is also scriptural... 1 John 5:13-15 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. The "him", "his", and "he" in verse 14 is referring to "the Son of God" in verse 13. Verse 15 says that he (the Son of God) hears us and grants our petitions that we desired of him (the Son of God). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted January 16, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2014 While I agree that prayer is mainly directed to God the Father and never to the Holy Spirit, praying directly to the Lord Jesus Christ is also scriptural... 1 John 5:13-15 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. The "him", "his", and "he" in verse 14 is referring to "the Son of God" in verse 13. Verse 15 says that he (the Son of God) hears us and grants our petitions that we desired of him (the Son of God). Hmmm...I may have to stand corrected on this. I'll read it over and let you know, but I am certainly not above being wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 16, 2014 Members Share Posted January 16, 2014 Of course, this one is doctrinally wrong, also, because it is not Jesus we pray to, but God the Father. So there's that, too. Ac 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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