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  1. As someone who loved, lived, and breathed "hard preaching", I can attest that for me personally (and my wife), it became tiresome after a couple of years of it and left us wanting. I could give my thoughts on it, but I won't...there are too many rabbit trails that it could lead to. I've sat under all types of preaching...the type that has helped me the most is expository preaching. Pastors should preach the word, and that covers everything...from "hard preaching" to "soft preaching". As Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 3 (and he was pretty wise)... ...and "time" includes preaching to the church.
  2. I served in the Coast Guard. My dad served in the Air Force, Navy, and National Guard.
  3. So...you argue for both sides...inerrancy and errancy. When joining an atheist forum, do you say that you need help, because you're starting to believe that God's word is true?
  4. We are told to study God's word...not C. S. Lewis. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God...not the word of C. S. Lewis. Your issues with doubt are easily explained, yet you are looking through secular eyes instead of the eyes of faith. Your faith is in C. S. Lewis and your own secular reasoning. Israel had personally experienced great signs, wonders, and miracles, yet despite that, God asked... And the LORD said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them? "Physical" proof won't convince you. ...and as for "dead languages"...the King James was translated from them. Some English words have changed meanings since 1611... What did "headlong" mean in the 1600's? Was George Washington a real person? If so, why do you believe that? You never experienced him in life...all you have are the things written about him. How do you know it's true? You have no proof other than to accept what history tells you. For all you know, everything written and painted about him could have been one great big lie...unless you can go back in time and verify its authenticity. Can you do that...or do you accept what you know about him...because it's written down in a history book? We also have a history book. You have been given the answers to your questions, yet you shrug them off. Judas purchased a field (at some point) with the money he gained through sin; after all, he was a thief. He hanged himself somewhere in that field. At some point thereafter, the rope broke, and his body fell (for whatever reason) headlong and burst...not that hard to understand...it snaps, his feet hit the ground first, and he falls forward...headlong. It's not a discrepancy; it's just more information as to what all happened. If you are sincere in your endeavor to know the truth, then study God's word. The Holy Spirit is the one who will illuminate you...
  5. SAB76, I've answered you biblically. I've answered the questions that you proposed in your last post. In fact, my answer(s) are in the post that immediately precede your latest post. I no longer see the purpose in continuing this "back and forth" conversation on my part. I don't mean to sound harsh, but it's going nowhere except in a circle. Take care.
  6. I'm on my phone and can't answer in-depth...sorry. The qualifications apply to a MAN...not a child, adolescent, or teenager (in my opinion). That does away with "at any time". The qualifications also are the traits that he is publicly known by...this goes beyond what the man is now...it covers years. Why? Because of how he is known by those not only in the church...but how he is known by those who are "without". It takes a long time for a man to establish his reputation...especially by those who are "without". I know pastors who are popular in my community, but they don't meet the qualifications that God has ordained. Numerous church splits have resulted from these men...hard feelings and bitterness are the results. Many have adopted false doctrine...but they chalk it up to being persecuted...when neither they (nor the churches that elected them) held them to biblical qualifications.
  7. That verse isn't talking about the "gifts and calling" of what God calls men to do...aka...spiritual gifts. If you take it in its appropriate context, it's talking about God's promise to save his people Israel. He "called" certain men (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob) and gave them "gifts" (promises) that will one day be fulfilled. Those are the gifts and calling Paul is speaking of, and God will not repent of them. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. If all scripture is profitable for doctrine, that includes the old testament and when Christ was still on earth before his resurrection and ascension. The issue is that it must be rightly divided. Why did I quote Christ and what he said about divorce? Well...first, because of 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Secondly, because while we aren't under the law, the law DOES show us how God views sin. No man could live up to the law, but God gave them the law to show them that they were sinners. So indeed...the words of Christ do apply. The law is a reproof of man's sin, it provides correction and instruction in righteousness. We may not be under the law, but we certainly can learn a lot from it. If God was opposed to "something" in the old testament, he's still opposed to it. What? Where did that come from? No sir...please read the verses again... 1 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. It appears to me that all of the qualifications appear to apply to when the bishop is in office. Naturally, if a man desires to be a bishop, then he should also meet these qualifications beforehand. If we can't use what Christ said when the law was still in effect, why did you say the following... Wasn't he speaking to Israel? Weren't they still under the law? If I misunderstood you, I apologize. However, I still stand by what I said. I notice that you enlarged and made the font bold in one part, but you neglected to do so on what followed. I remember as a child, I would have much rather my dad spanked me as a punishment, because when he would instead talk to me about what I had done wrong, it was more effective. That "hurt" me more than a spanking, because I realized that I not only had done something wrong...I not only understood why it was wrong...but I had disappointed my dad. If you are married, and if your wife ever does anything that goes against God's word or what you (as the leader in your home) have tried to instill for your family...are you saying that you wouldn't even say anything to her about it? I ask because, if you do say something to her about it, you are trying to assert your will over her. You are trying to "bring her back in line". You may not be mean about it. You may not raise your voice. You may do it with love and compassion. However, if you try to assert your will over her, that is a form of punishment.
  8. John, I've read your previous statements on this matter. From reading them, I can "somewhat, but very slightly" see what you are saying and what you're trying to convey (though it isn't really that clear). As you said...there are those who frequent Online Baptist. Unfortunately, they may (or may not) have read your other posts nor understood what you were trying to convey. I have to admit...like DaveW...and despite somewhat understanding your position...my overall impression (from what you have posted) has been that you are a supporter of Anderson. It would help if you would give a definitive answer as to whether you view him as someone that you would recommend to others.
  9. Yes sir. Linux is all that I use. The screenshot above was on a Linux system that I was testing. I've used it on Firefox, Chromium, and Google Chrome. Seems like there was another browser that I used it on (perhaps Midori), and it worked fine on it. Unfortunately, I don't remember for sure what the other browser was...
  10. Okay. Thank you. I understand. However, I hope that you do take into account that the meanings of some English words have changed over time. If you don't want to look at Greek or Hebrew definitions, here's one source that is interesting (and enjoyable) to look over. Robert Cawdrey's "A Table Alphabeticall". It is considered the earliest dictionary...and...it's from the 1600s. It was actually produced a few years before the King James was. Though it's words aren't very large in number, it does give definitions that may have changed over time...especially what some words meant in the 1600s compared to what they mean today. https://extra.shu.ac.uk/emls/iemls/work/etexts/caw1604w_removed.htm I didn't say that I punished my wife. I said that I had to enforce rules. I can't answer for that. You'll need to ask for further clarification from the one who posted it. I will say this though...in my understanding from situations that I'm aware of, the leading cause for why the wife left the husband was due to the husband no longer showing his wife proper love and affection. It wasn't money issues, it wasn't physical abuse, or anything else...it was for a lack of love. I guess God knew what he was talking about when he commanded husbands to love their wives... I'm not saying that is the only cause for why wives leave, but it is a major cause. God allowed divorce for the Israelites because of the hardness of their hearts, but in the beginning, it wasn't so. Now, I'm not claiming that I'm right. I believe I am, but I'm always willing to be wrong. So...this is my view on it... Christ explicitly said in Matthew 19:7-9... 7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. So, according to God, if a man divorces his wife for any reason (other than fornication) and marries another woman, he commits adultery. So, in God's eyes, the husband is bound to his first wife unless the wife committed fornication. Later, Paul addressed the issue in 1 Corinthians 7:15 and added that if an unbelieving spouse departs, the believer isn't under bondage. Therefore, in my understanding, those are the only two biblical reasons for divorce. So, the question arises, can a man pastor who has divorced for biblical reasons? Well, it certainly depends on who you ask. If you ask me, I would say, "No. He shouldn't pastor. Nor should he be a deacon." Yes, God will forgive any sin. Yes, God can still use a man or woman (who is divorced) in mighty ways. However, the qualifications for pastors and deacons are also explicit. They are to be the husband of one wife. If a man is divorced and remarries, he has two wives in God's eyes. The sin may be forgiven, but that doesn't negate the truth that he has two wives. What if he is divorced for one of the two biblical reasons? I would point to the qualifications...the husband of one wife. I know that you don't care for Greek; however, the word "one" in Greek...aside from meaning "one"...also carries the connotation of "first". Now, I've said what I believe about it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong...but I really don't care to go around and around about it any longer. Take care, and don't work yourself to death.
  11. Well, it's still there in the one I just tried. In the screenshot below, do you see what the red arrow is pointing to? That's what you click on in the "Bible view" to bring up the Apocrypha...

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