Churches That Are Against Having Drums In The Music...

[The Glory Land]

 
Is this biblical, and who believe this having drums in a church, is of the devil? 

[Standing Firm In Christ]

I find no mention of drums in the New Testament Church in my Bible.  Are they in yours?

Only percussion instruments I find mentioned in the New Testament are 'tinkling cymbals."  "Tinkling" doesn't paint a picture of deafening music, imo.

[The Glory Land]

I find no mention of drums in the New Testament Church in my Bible.  Are they in yours?

Only percussion instruments I find mentioned in the New Testament are 'tinkling cymbals."  "Tinkling" doesn't paint a picture of deafening music, imo.

 

No Sir, not in the bible, playing the drums in the church. Then does this makes them of the devil?

[HappyChristian]

Piano is a percussion (yes, it's string, but it is also percussion) instrument too...so, on that basis no pianos allowed either. 

 

The Bible - yes, in the OT, but that is still part of scripture that is inspired by God - tells us to worship God using a variety of instruments.  It is not the instrument but the player and the music played that become the problem. 

[The Glory Land]

Piano is a percussion (yes, it's string, but it is also percussion) instrument too...so, on that basis no pianos allowed either. 

 

The Bible - yes, in the OT, but that is still part of scripture that is inspired by God - tells us to worship God using a variety of instruments.  It is not the instrument but the player and the music played that become the problem. 

 

 

How about the organ?

[HappyChristian]

How about the organ?

 

 

Again, it's the music and the playing that can go south in a hurry (and have in so many churches), not the instruments.

[no name joe]

Music arises out of culture.  In the context of worship, music is an expression of praise.  It is a response of our realization and understanding of what God has done for us. 

 

Having said that, the type of music is varied.  The culture of a church will impact the type of music that is used in worship.  A church in Africa, especially in tribal areas, will likely use drums.  Their music scales and rhythms are different, and unique to the geographical area.  When they realize what God has done, their expression will look very different, though the message will be the same.  

 

In southern U.S., you may find gospel music used.  In a predominately African-American church, the worship style will be very different and much more lively due to the cultural influences.  

 

There is no prohibition of any instrument in praise.  What is important is the heart and message.  Now, one thing I think is important is that in the context of corporate worship, the songs need to be written to be sung corporately.  Different types of lyric arrangement lends itself better to corporate singing vs. solo singing.  I do not see much of a use of solo singing for a church service since the purpose of a church service is to worship together.  But the styles will vary widely.

 

My church uses drums, guitars, pianos, saxophone, flute, mandolin, cello, etc.  We have a variety of styles, but we use the musical gifts and abilities of members.  It is a beautiful thing.  :-)

 

One more thing I will add, I think churches do need to be careful about how to present the music.  A church service is not a concert.  A church service is corporate worship where all people join together.  Making the music a production is not good.  For example, I've seen churches where musicians are center stage in the spotlight.  This can be dangerous because it becomes a performance.  It is better to have the musicians on the side, off center, so they are not the center of the service, but God remains central.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

I believe an organ is considered to be a "wind instrument" since it is air that blows over the reeds producing the musical tones.

[John81]

Each church has the liberty to choose the musical instruments they want used, or not.

 

As has been said, musical instruments are just objects, neither good nor bad, it's how they are used that makes the difference.

[John81]

Music arises out of culture.  In the context of worship, music is an expression of praise.  It is a response of our realization and understanding of what God has done for us. 

 

Having said that, the type of music is varied.  The culture of a church will impact the type of music that is used in worship.  A church in Africa, especially in tribal areas, will likely use drums.  Their music scales and rhythms are different, and unique to the geographical area.  When they realize what God has done, their expression will look very different, though the message will be the same.  

 

In southern U.S., you may find gospel music used.  In a predominately African-American church, the worship style will be very different and much more lively due to the cultural influences.  

 

There is no prohibition of any instrument in praise.  What is important is the heart and message.  Now, one thing I think is important is that in the context of corporate worship, the songs need to be written to be sung corporately.  Different types of lyric arrangement lends itself better to corporate singing vs. solo singing.  I do not see much of a use of solo singing for a church service since the purpose of a church service is to worship together.  But the styles will vary widely.

 

My church uses drums, guitars, pianos, saxophone, flute, mandolin, cello, etc.  We have a variety of styles, but we use the musical gifts and abilities of members.  It is a beautiful thing.  :-)

 

One more thing I will add, I think churches do need to be careful about how to present the music.  A church service is not a concert.  A church service is corporate worship where all people join together.  Making the music a production is not good.  For example, I've seen churches where musicians are center stage in the spotlight.  This can be dangerous because it becomes a performance.  It is better to have the musicians on the side, off center, so they are not the center of the service, but God remains central.

Actually, at least in certain parts of Africa, when folks become Christians one of the first things they do is destroy all the drums. For them, in certain parts of Africa, a drum is specifically considered an instrument of certain evil practices, so they do away with them.

 

That's specific to them, and doesn't mean all others do so, nor should they.

[swathdiver]

Drums are historically of the heathen as they are used to accentuate the rhythm in music.  God's order for music is Melody, Harmony and Rhythm.  The world's order is the exact opposite.

[no name joe]

Drums are historically of the heathen as they are used to accentuate the rhythm in music.  God's order for music is Melody, Harmony and Rhythm.  The world's order is the exact opposite.

 

Based upon what?  That order is certainly not set forth in the Bible.

[Salyan]

Based upon what?  That order is certainly not set forth in the Bible.

 

No, it's not. What is set forth in the Bible?  We have more principles than 'black and white' descriptions for this. So what do the principles say?

 

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."Phil. 4:8

 

What kind of virtue (or lack thereof) is encouraged by a particular sort of music? What does it praise?

 

"Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." Eph. 4:29

 

Does it edify - or does it feed the flesh?

 

"Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;" 1 Peter 2:11

 

"For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;  Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works." Titus 2:11-14

 

Is it corrupt? What about its source? 

 

"Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?" James 3:11

 

 

What about its associations? Is the music specifically associated with stubborn sinners and a degenerate lifestyle? how is it used by the world, or by heretical groups?

 

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," 2 Cor. 6:17

 

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:" 1 Peter 2:9

 

Does it encourage us to be more like Christ?

 

 
"For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;"
Hebrews 7:26

 

Does its use in the congregation recognize that God does set standards for the practices used to worship Him, accepting some and rejecting others?   (The books of Moses)

 

Does its use reflect the principle that things be done decently and in order? Or is it overbearing and chaotic?  I think most uses of drums, even appropriately played, in small congregations or instrumental groups would probably overbear the congregational singing.

 

"Let all things be done decently and in order." 1 Cor. 14:10

 

Does it cause another brother to stumble?  (1 Cor. 8)

 

What picture is it giving to the world? What assumptions might they reasonably make about our beliefs or moral standards based on this music? (Bearing in mind that these assumptions might be made either via the music or the words.)
 

"Abstain from all appearance of evil." 1 Thess. 5:22

 

Has it been proven good?
 

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thess. 5:21

 

 

 

  

[John81]

No, it's not. What is set forth in the Bible?  We have more principles than 'black and white' descriptions for this. So what do the principles say?

 

 

What kind of virtue (or lack thereof) is encouraged by a particular sort of music? What does it praise?

 

 

Does it edify - or does it feed the flesh?

 

 

Is it corrupt? What about its source? 

 

 

 

What about its associations? Is the music associated with stubborn sinners and a degenerate lifestyle? 

 

 

Does it encourage us to be more like Christ?

 

 

Does its use in the congregation recognize that God does set standards for the practices used to worship Him, accepting some and rejecting others?   (The books of Moses)

Does its use reflect the principle that things be done decently and in order? Or is it overbearing and chaotic?  I think most uses of drums, even appropriately played, in small congregations or instrumental groups would probably overbear the congregational singing.

 

 

Does it cause another brother to stumble?  (1 Cor. 8)

 

 

  

Different folks respond differently to different forms of music, drum beats and songs and such.

 

Scripture says nothing specific about drums or drum beats.

 

Along these lines, I do find it interesting that some IFBs will run the ailes, run all over the platform, some will get red faced spitting and spewing as they talk, yet if someone moves at all when a song is played they are accused of being fleshly.

[Salyan]

Different folks respond differently to different forms of music, drum beats and songs and such.

 

Scripture says nothing specific about drums or drum beats.

 

Exactly, which is why we need to look to the principles.

 

Along these lines, I do find it interesting that some IFBs will run the ailes, run all over the platform, some will get red faced spitting and spewing as they talk, yet if someone moves at all when a song is played they are accused of being fleshly.

 

Sounds like a good example of the pot calling the kettle black, eh?