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  1. The Bible tells us to meditate on Scripture. Meditation and contemplating and dwelling on the meaning of Scripture and allowing God to speak to your heart, identify areas in need of change, and allowing the peace of God to embrace you is quite amazing.
  2. The Republican party is in disarray and has been for some time. They need to get their people in line if they hope to regain control and move forward. There are serious factions in the party right now, which leads to a crippling effect. Some in the Republican party do not understand that compromise is party of politics. They all put on a show, compromise, give and take, and move forward. But now, some dig their heels in and refuse to offer any concessions. This leads to stalemate and locks up the entire system. Boehner has had prOBlems with it and I am sure is very frustrated.
  3. I honestly don't care what people do in their personal lives. I work with a gay man and it does not bother me at all, and we have developed a good friendship. He is an excellent lawyer, and I gladly work with him. I don't see whey this is a big deal either way. He is a gay man. He is a good football player. If he can do the jOB, then I am not sure why people are upset or jubilant about this. Media likes it because it is a splashy story. But in reality, if he is a good player, he will do well in the NFL. If he is not, then he will ultimately be cut, or placed on the practice squad.
  4. Candlelight, I am sorry if I triggered some bad memories for you. That was not my intention. I just said a common saying that is filled with truth, and did not realize it would trigger negative thoughts. No, it is not word for word from the Bible, but each of the three statements is true.
  5. Candlelight: That saying is common to all Christian belief. It dates back centuries and centuries. Christians have been saying it from generation to generation. It is a tradition, yet it is well rooted in Scripture. It comes from Scripture. Not the exact wording, but the doctrine. It the essence of the Gospel. Christ has died. True? Yes. Christ has risen. True? Yes. Christ will come again. True? Yes. So what is wrong with saying it? Disclaimer: I attend an Anglican church, and we say this every week right before Communion, which I find to be a lovely reminder and reaffir
  6. Wow. I've not read through all of this, but quite honestly, I don't bother myself with end times theology. Christ has died. Christ has risen. Christ will come again. All else is just conjecture about what will likely happen long after we have passed from this earth. It is nothing to get worked up over. :-) What will come will come. We have no control and no input into the matter. All we can control is ourselves and our attitudes.
  7. Swath asked what repentance and faith means. Those are very good questions. One I am not sure I can answer. I have struggled with the meaning of these words in the context of salvation. Repentance. It means to turn around or to turn away. But how does one do that? What must we turn from? Does it mean turning away from a particular sin we struggle with? Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more. Surely she still struggled with her sin after that. She was still tempted, I imagine, as we all are. I know I have an ongoing struggle. Always have and always will.
  8. Ok. I'll leave the topic of same sex marriage and how the church should respond. But in my follow up question, if a husband marries his mistress, has children by wife 1, and children by wife 2, that is a very toxic situation for the children. Wife 1 will always be hurt and struggle with anger, rejection, etc. Does God honor the second marriage? Does the Bible not say that if one divorces, they should not remarry? I need to pull out the reference. If so, isn't the husband continuing to live in an adulterous relationship with his mistress? If wife 1 wants to reconcile and husband ign
  9. Mikado. I have no DNA in common with my mother and father. I am the product of a teenager having sex and getting pregnant at the age of 15. My mother and father adopted me. Legally, I am seen no differently then a biological child. That is the beauty of adoption. Though genetically unrelated, legally, I have full rights and am fully recognized as their child. They had me together. They decided together they wanted a child and adopted me. No different that God adopts us as his children. Same-sex couples can legally adopt. They are recognized as the parents under the law. Both of t
  10. And this brings me back to my original question. Where the legal reality in our society is that same-sex couple are married, and adopt children, what does repentance mean? I think this is the last I will say on the topic because we are going in circles now. But I tend to think celibacy in those cases is the way to go. I cannot fathom God wanting to break up that family. I think the church should be loving to such families and welcome them to participate. If they have made a vow of celibacy, I would not have a prOBlem with membership. Surely, where God can work all things together
  11. And yes, same sex couples have children together. I have worked with clients who have committed to having children together, gone to a sperm bank, conceived through in vitro, and are raising children together today. The non-biological mother has now officially adopted her children. Legally, they are recognized as the children of both. I am adopted. My mother did not conceive me. Yet she is my mother. It is no different. A parent is the person who loves you unconditionally and has committed their life to raising you and providing for you. My mother and father are not biological, but
  12. I know several same-sex couples who are very healthy families. One couple I knew raised children together and were committed for 40 years before her partner died. Their children are productive, healthy, happy people today. Another couple has a son in my daughter's class. One of the strongest families I know. One mother a doctor, the other a stay at home mother, and the child is very intelligent, well rounded, kind, and loving. I'm not saying starting a family like that is right. But where there is a family, there God can and does work through those situations. I don't see it an
  13. But does God recognize a second marriage where husband has affair, leaves his wife, and remarries the woman he had an affair with? I she conceived, it is no different than same sex marriage. A family was established through sinful behavior. How does one in this situation repent? Must husband leave wife 2 and go back to wife 1? Stay with wife 2 and the child? How does the grace of God work in this situation? I believe it does, but it takes time to heal. For one, I think what is done is done and the husband must go forward with wife 2. I think it would cause more pain to divorce a sec
  14. I believe comparing same-sex marriage with many second marriages is a very good comparison. Husband has an affair. Leaves wife. Remarries. Husband and new wife come to church and try to join. What does repentance mean in that situation? What if husband and new wife have a child together? Must husband leave second wife and return to his first wife, who is innocent int he matter? Does God recognize the second marriage? What if husband a year or two later recognizes he was wrong and asks God to forgive him? What does repentance mean in that situation? Leaving and divorcing wife 2 an
  15. Follow up question: I understand everyone here says that a same-sex couple should not be allowed to join the church unless they separated. It would not be enough for them to remain celibate. My question is, do you apply the same line of logic to other sins involving families? Example: Husband was unfaithful years ago. Husband and wife divorce. Husband has remarried. They come to your church and want to join. Do you require that they separate? Do you consider that Husband and new wife are married according to the God? Same issues are involved here as the same-sex couple. How do
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