Members swathdiver Posted September 4, 2013 Members Share Posted September 4, 2013 SFIC, those verses were only for the Jews under the Law and we're not under the Law nor are we Jews where the sanctuary referred to in the Greek was really the temple. (Being facetious!) Let the charismatics wave their hands around and seek spiritual emotions from the rock-n-roll music. We sing for the Lord and not for ourselves though many bible truths in the hymns speak to us. We don't clap but we do say: AMEN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted September 4, 2013 Members Share Posted September 4, 2013 I don't think I've ever raised my hands in church. There have been times in my private prayer and worship when I lift my hands to the Lord, just as there are times I get on my knees or take other postures. Saying "amen" isn't always unto God. I've been in churches and gatherings before where the "amens" are a praise to the speaker, not a "so be it" or "let it be" unto the Lord. The same applies to clapping. As Heartstrings pointed out, there is a way to clap in appreciation for one sharing their God given gift which helps glorify the Lord. There is also forms of clapping which gives undue praise to someone. Just as we shouldn't toss out the use of "amen" because some abuse it, we shouldn't toss out all clapping because some abuse it. There is also clapping which accompanies some songs. I've been in Baptist churches where they clapped to songs such as "I'll Fly Away". Clapping and hand raising are not the province Charismatics or those listening to rock music. Clapping and hand raising were a part of some Baptist churches long before Charismatics and rock music. Clapping and hand raising, both of which are biblical, are mostly an area of preference and subject to the rules of order. Clapping and hand raising can be a part of worship and praise to the Lord. Myself, I've never felt moved of the Spirit to raise my hands in church. I've clapped to some songs in churches before where such is common, but not to every song and it's not something I would do in a church which is basically clap-free. As I think I mentioned in another post, our church is very "clap limited"; and I've never seen anyone raise their hands during a service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Glory Land Posted September 4, 2013 Author Members Share Posted September 4, 2013 We will raise our hands one or the two, it does not matter for those that are in need. But not all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted September 4, 2013 Moderators Share Posted September 4, 2013 This subject makes me laugh a little. I used to be very accustomed to raising my hands in song from my Pentecostal background! When I first came to my IFB church, well, it was very apparent that that was not a common practice there. (Our church is a fairly reserved church. Not a lot of amens except after a special.) So when we'd be singing a song that I particularly wanted to raise my hands for, I would cup them on the back of the pew or in my lap, palms upward, and 'raise' my hands without actually raising them! My friends used to notice and give me a hard time for such 'liberal' practices. The funny thing is that after 7 years of being here, I'm no longer used to 'raising' my hands. Thought about it while singing last Sunday, and it actually felt strange to do so. Guess one gets used to different things over time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted September 4, 2013 Members Share Posted September 4, 2013 I was a member of an IFB church which was once heavily affiliated with the Resaca, GA IFB "circles". During revivals and camp meetings, there was a great deal of hand raising, shouting, praying aloud all at the same time, running the aisles, even walking the pews, After awhile, you get used to it. There was , however, no rolling on the floor or speaking in tongues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted September 4, 2013 Members Share Posted September 4, 2013 I was a member of an IFB church which was once heavily affiliated with the Resaca, GA IFB "circles". During revivals and camp meetings, there was a great deal of hand raising, shouting, praying aloud all at the same time, running the aisles, even walking the pews, After awhile, you get used to it. There was , however, no rolling on the floor or speaking in tongues. I've attended IFB churches which were much like Pentacostal churches, minus tongues or floor moves. I've also attended IFB churches where the congregation seemed almost to be statues as they were silent and barely moved. To a great extent, this is a matter of preference. Like you and Salyan have said, it also has to do with what we are used to. A person can get used to a more expressive church and they can get used to a very reserved church, or anything in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted September 4, 2013 Administrators Share Posted September 4, 2013 We have, too. The church where we met handed out hankies for the ladies to raise in place of saying Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted September 4, 2013 Moderators Share Posted September 4, 2013 I've heard of 'hanky-waving truth' but have yet to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted September 4, 2013 Administrators Share Posted September 4, 2013 It was interesting, but the ladies didn't seem too enthusiastic as they "waved" them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted September 4, 2013 Members Share Posted September 4, 2013 Reminds me of the Southern ladies in their big church hats and waving their little hankies back in the day. That's not very common these days, the last time I saw this sort of thing was in a black church in the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted September 5, 2013 Members Share Posted September 5, 2013 Never seen it, never heard of it, till on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miss Daisy Posted September 5, 2013 Members Share Posted September 5, 2013 I've seen it done in my church when my pastor's mother visits. Now that I know what it symbolizes, I'll be bringing a hanky to every service! I like that, it's feminine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted September 5, 2013 Administrators Share Posted September 5, 2013 I've seen it done in my church when my pastor's mother visits. Now that I know what it symbolizes, I'll be bringing a hanky to every service! I like that, it's feminine. That was the whole idea, so that instead of speaking Amen, they say Amen by waving (the pastor in that church jokingly called it a wave offering to the Lord). Jerry, I don't know if it's common all over the south or not. I never saw it done when I lived in OK of FL. That pastor was from KY, so maybe it's a regional thing - if it's still practiced. We've been gone from that church (which closed down many years ago) for 27 years, so don't have any idea where else it happens now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted September 5, 2013 Moderators Share Posted September 5, 2013 Lol - I think if I tried that up here I would get mightily stared at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Glory Land Posted September 5, 2013 Author Members Share Posted September 5, 2013 This subject makes me laugh a little. I used to be very accustomed to raising my hands in song from my Pentecostal background! When I first came to my IFB church, well, it was very apparent that that was not a common practice there. (Our church is a fairly reserved church. Not a lot of amens except after a special.) So when we'd be singing a song that I particularly wanted to raise my hands for, I would cup them on the back of the pew or in my lap, palms upward, and 'raise' my hands without actually raising them! My friends used to notice and give me a hard time for such 'liberal' practices. The funny thing is that after 7 years of being here, I'm no longer used to 'raising' my hands. Thought about it while singing last Sunday, and it actually felt strange to do so. Guess one gets used to different things over time... I am not Pentecostal or charismatic, but when raise my hand or hands in a group for a special need, with other members at the same time, praying for the same cause, I feel the power of the spirit at work. This is not to practice every day or week. Only for certain special needs, done too often there will be no power of the spirit. Why? Because then you will be putting your trust in the wrong thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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