What about other languages?

[Guest Guest]

What about other languages? Do we expect people of other languages to learn English so that they can read the KJV Bible which is the perfect Bible in English or do other languages have a perfect Bible as well? :puzzled:

[Bakershalfdozen]

Any version translated correctly from the Textus Receptus is a worthy translation. Many languages have such a translation. English-speakers do not own the market on purity. :wink

[Alimantado]

And don't forget, there's always AltaVista's Babelfish translation website. It looks like it's just been taken over by Yahoo, in fact: http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/?fr=avbbf-uk

John 3:16 If respects the shoes which as the world is loved like this, it he in his cry of distress the gruel only are from whosoever believeth do not become in him, the pebble the life which is eternal they give but they send the son whom comes to see.*


*Translated into Korean on Babelfish and then translated back into English again.

[Jerry]

Hm, I want one of those "pebbles of life"! Sounds like something worth collecting. :frog

[Ashlee]

Spanish does

For God so loved the world, that it gave his only generated son, who believeth of whosoever in him, does not have to pass away, but it has eternal life. 3:16 of Juan

[OLD fashioned preacher]

Russian: the Synodal translation, German: the Luther Bible; Spanish: big battle right now concerning Reina- Valera1602, the 1960, and the RVG (see the book "Elephant in the Living Room").

[Kubel]

What about other languages? Do we expect people of other languages to learn English so that they can read the KJV Bible which is the perfect Bible in English or do other languages have a perfect Bible as well? :puzzled:

James White divided onlyism into 5 types in his book, "The King James Only Controversy". They are:

1) The KJV as New Revelation
2) The Inspired KJV Group
3) Received Text Only
4) The Textual Argument
5) I Like the KJV the Best

While the list isn't comprehensive, I would say most people here fall into one (or more) of those 5 categories. I'm a #5 myself (even though #5 isn't really onlyism). People like Ruckman are #1's. I think (moderator) Jerry (we have a few Jerry's here ) said he came to onlyism through #4, but I also think he is a #3. Some people say that "preservation" isn't mentioned as a type/reason of onlyism. I think preservation fits in as a mix of #2, #3, and #4 (if you read his chapter on the 5 types of onlyism, he goes in more depth and explains the various views).

Anyway, my point is- there are many reasons for and views of the belief of onlyism. Depending on who you ask, some might say all must learn English. Some might say they must use a translation of the KJV. Others might say all must use a translation based on the TR.

I expect people to read the Bible in their native language. We (as English readers) aren't forced to learn Hebrew and Greek to read God's word, we were blessed to have it translated. Some people speak languages that don't have a Bible translation yet, or that have very poor translations.

[brandplucked]

What about other languages? Do we expect people of other languages to learn English so that they can read the KJV Bible which is the perfect Bible in English or do other languages have a perfect Bible as well? :puzzled:

If the King James Bible in English is the perfect words of God, then What About Other Languages?

I am frequently asked this question by other Christians who do not believe the King James Bible or any bible is now the inerrant words of God.

I finally decided to put a concise answer together to respond to this common question. Here it is.

Hi brother and sister......, this is a good question but not at all hard to answer if you think about it. God never promised to give every nation or every individual a perfect Bible. It certainly never turned out this way in history, did it?

In fact, for the first 3000 to 4000 years of recorded history, there was only one nation on earth that had the true words of God. "He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation, and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD." Psalm 147:19-20.

Now that the gospel is going out to the nations, the only promise from God we have is that "this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Matthew 24:14

The gospel of salvation through the substitutionary death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ is found in any bible in any language it has been translated into, no matter how poorly or partially done it may be. God can and does use other bible versions, partial translations, or just simple gospel tracts to bring His people to faith in Christ. I do not deny but strongly affirm this to be true.

But that does not make these other partial translations, bible tracts or versions the perfect words of God. There has to be at least one perfect Bible in this world that serves as the Final Authority and Standard by which all others are measured.

It certainly does not exist in the Hebrew or the Greek. There is no "the Hebrew" and much less is there "the" Greek. Besides, once a complete Bible is put together, there has to be a translation of some kind in order to put both the Old and New Testaments into one language. Since God has promised to preserve His WORDS (not just the general, ballpark approximation) in the book of the LORD, this book must exist somewhere.

All the evidence points to the King James Bible as being that book for the last almost 400 years. It was the KJB that was used by English and American missionaries to carry to gospel to the nations in the greatest missionary movement in history. It was the KJB that was carried out into space and read from.

I believe in the sovereignty of God in history. "For the kingdom is the LORD'S; and He is the governor among the nations." Psalm 22:28. God has set His mark upon many things in this world that reveal His Divine hand at work in history. Why do we use the 7 day week instead of the 10 day week? Why are dates either B.C. (Before Christ) or A.D. (Anno Domini - year of our Lord)? (although the secular world is now trying in vain to change this too to BCE and CE.) England just "happens to be" the one nation from which we measure the true Time (Greenwich time, zero hour) and from which we measure true Position, zero longitude. In 1611 the English language was spoken by a mere 3% of the world's population, but today English has become the closest thing to a universal language in history. God knew He would use England, its language and the King James Bible to accomplish all these things long before they happened.

Today it is only the King James Bible believer who boldly maintains that there really is an inerrant, complete and 100% true Holy Bible on this earth that a person can actually hold it in his hands and read and believe every word. All modern version proponents deny that any tangible, ?hold it in your hands and read Bible? IS now the inerrant words of God.

God only holds us accountable for the light He has been pleased to give us. To whom much is given, from him shall much be required - "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke 12:48. God has given to the English speaking people His perfect words in the King James Bible. We will be held far more accountable for what we have done with this Book than any other people.

To the degree that foreign language bible versions follow the same underlying Hebrew and Greek texts, and to the degree that their individual translations match those found in the King James Bible, to that degree they can be considered to be the true words of God. To the degree that they depart from both the texts and meanings found in the KJB, to that degree they are corrupt and inferiour.

I do not believe that every foreigner in non-English speaking countries needs to learn the English language and read the King James Bible. Salvation through faith in the substitutionary death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ is not only found the King James Bible. If there are several different versions in their own native language (Spanish, German, Russian, Chinese, or whatever), then I would recommend they use the one that most closely follows the same Hebrew and Greek texts that underlie the King James Bible. If they only have a translation based on the ever changing, modern Critical Texts, then they should thank God for what they do have and use it.

Regarding the question of ?Well, what about before 1611?? please see my article here:

http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/before1611.html

As for: ?Can a Translation be inspired?? please see:

http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/transinsp.html

This is how I see it and what I believe. Not a difficult question at all.

In contrast to the KJB believer's views, the multiple choice, contradictory meanings, and "different, omitted, added, or made up underlying texts" proponent has no Final Written Authority or Standard by which all others are to be judged, and he has no inspired, inerrant and 100% true Bible to give or recommend to anyone.

By His grace, accepted in the Beloved,

Will Kinney

[Kayla]

And don't forget, there's always AltaVista's Babelfish translation website. It looks like it's just been taken over by Yahoo, in fact: http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/?fr=avbbf-uk

John 3:16 If respects the shoes which as the world is loved like this, it he in his cry of distress the gruel only are from whosoever believeth do not become in him, the pebble the life which is eternal they give but they send the son whom comes to see.*


*Translated into Korean on Babelfish and then translated back into English again.

Since Babelfish has been taken over by Yahoo it is not very good anymore....I used to use it a lot for some of my French translation work. However now it is unreliable in translation, so my suggestion is to unlink it. Yahoo ruins everything it gains.... :gross: I seriously think Yahoo could fall off the internet and it would be a useful contribution to all internet users. :lol