Members Invicta Posted July 7, 2017 Members Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) Over 80,000 migrants have arrived in Italy from Libya this year and over 2,000 have drowned. about 75-80% of these are said to be economic migrants and not refugees. They are put to sea by trafiikers in overcrowded and unseaworthy and overcrowded boats which usually start to sink soon after they leave. Govts have stopped patrols but NGOs like Medicins Sans Frontieres have been picking them up/ It seems to me that they are encouraging those who profit from this evil trade and if they returned them to Libya, this trade will stop or greatly diminish/ MSF deny this of course. Edited July 8, 2017 by Invicta Alan 1
Members Alan Posted July 8, 2017 Author Members Posted July 8, 2017 I agree with both Heartstrings and Invicta's assessment. From what I have read, America's economy is doing better since Trump has been in office than in the previous years (I do not have precise data to back up this statement). And, the Muslim religious fanatics, who caused the terrorists attacks, are concerned. I feel that Trump is not only helping the economy of the United States, but he is preventing future terrorist activity. The flood (should I say invasion), of economic refugees have hurt Europe in many ways and it it continues it will destroy the economic, moral, religious, and social fabric of America. In my estimation, President Trump has already helped America and his policies should help America further.
Members swathdiver Posted July 8, 2017 Members Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/3/2017 at 3:50 AM, Alan said: The Supreme Court of the United States upheld (with some qualifications), President Trump's Travel ban from 6 Muslim countries. I don't know when it stopped but America used to have travel bans and nobody complained. We did not let Muhammadens or Communists and other terrorists whose values were opposed and sought the destruction of the United States. Pakistan was once on a banned list and President Obama as a young man traveled to that country anyway using a different visa from another country if memory serves. Even the UK used to ban the Moslems and we can all see how well it worked for them when their socialist/communist rulers rescinded that one! Wayne, I'd love to have some sheep or goats to keep my grass mowed but the city would surely frown on that idea! Would need a taller fence too! Maybe you can market them as pets to folks in rural areas? Well, I'll pray that the Lord takes care of that situation for you! Alan 1
Members Alimantado Posted July 9, 2017 Members Posted July 9, 2017 On 08/07/2017 at 7:40 AM, swathdiver said: Even the UK used to ban the Moslems and we can all see how well it worked for them when their socialist/communist rulers rescinded that one! When was this in force? I can't find anything about it.
Members Invicta Posted July 9, 2017 Members Posted July 9, 2017 13 hours ago, Alimantado said: When was this in force? I can't find anything about it. I have not heard that either. We often hear that it was refugees that helped our country to be great. They forget, or choose not to remember, that it was Christian refugees from Catholic Europe that helped our country. Weavers from Northern France, Farmers from Netherlands, for instance. There was also what was known as the "Protestant work ethic" People were eager to work. Now many Just don't want to work, just live off the state. There is plenty of work on farms, picking fruit, etc.but people won't leave their homes to go to farms for work, but Europeans come hundreds of miles to work on farms. Farmers say if they cannot get the foreign workers, they can;t operate. When I was at school we we taught "Our Duty", now it seems they are taught "Our Rights," (I notice that I have got a spelling checker back so you should see a difference in my spelling, typos etc.) BabeinChrist 1
Members Alan Posted July 10, 2017 Author Members Posted July 10, 2017 I would prefer not to deviate any further from the topic of this thread.
Members heartstrings Posted July 10, 2017 Members Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Invicta said: I have not heard that either. We often hear that it was refugees that helped our country to be great. They forget, or choose not to remember, that it was Christian refugees from Catholic Europe that helped our country. Weavers from Northern France, Farmers from Netherlands, for instance. There was also what was known as the "Protestant work ethic" People were eager to work. Now many Just don't want to work, just live off the state. There is plenty of work on farms, picking fruit, etc.but people won't leave their homes to go to farms for work, but Europeans come hundreds of miles to work on farms. Farmers say if they cannot get the foreign workers, they can;t operate. When I was at school we we taught "Our Duty", now it seems they are taught "Our Rights," (I notice that I have got a spelling checker back so you should see a difference in my spelling, typos etc.) Now, your country has been invaded by hordes of Muslims and now even the mayor of London is one of them. Unlike those European immigrants of days gone by, the vast majority of these people will not assimilate. They fully intend to over-run your country and do away with your culture and are becoming much more bold about it too. It is only going to get worse. Our country has already allowed a Muslim to hold the highest office in our land which I still consider unconscionable . But now, in our country, I believe President Trump may be part of the last line of defense because, in spite of his faults, he actually cares about the U.S., unlike Obama who was bent on destroying it. Yes, we have both "duty" and "rights" and these are outlined in our Bible. Our "duty" is to be concerned with the "rights" of others. Edited July 10, 2017 by heartstrings swathdiver, Invicta and 1Timothy115 3
Members heartstrings Posted July 12, 2017 Members Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) I just realized, the photo on the left is most likely photoshopped. sorry Edited July 12, 2017 by heartstrings Alan 1
Members Rebecca Posted July 12, 2017 Members Posted July 12, 2017 Heartstrings - Its' not photoshopped, here's the context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2hGm00t0Xs Alan and heartstrings 2
Members heartstrings Posted July 13, 2017 Members Posted July 13, 2017 Why is there a Turkish flag behind Obama as well as the Turk. Shouldn't each just have his own flag?
Members swathdiver Posted July 13, 2017 Members Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) On 7/12/2017 at 7:34 AM, heartstrings said: I just realized, the photo on the left is most likely photoshopped. sorry It's real, saw it on the news when it happened. Oh wait, maybe it was Fake News! LOL Just as we were to pray for President Obama and all of our elected leaders, we should continue to pray for President Trump. Pray that he gets properly discipled and not led astray by those evangelicals. Pray that he seeks the Kingdom of God first in all that he does. Edited July 13, 2017 by swathdiver heartstrings and Alan 2
Members Alan Posted July 13, 2017 Author Members Posted July 13, 2017 Jim, Is there any updates on the mining ban in the State of California? Do you think the Trump Administration is making a positive difference? Alan On 2017/2/4 at 1:41 PM, Jim_Alaska said: Alan, here is one that I have been involved with from the beginning. I am a gold miner, as well as a property and mining rights advocate. The state of California has banned suction dredge mining for gold for the last nine years. This is a direct violation of the rights that congress gave to this nations miners. I am working with the new administration's new agency heads to get this situation turned around. Just today Pacific Legal Foundation agreed to take this case the the US Supreme Court for miners. They are a very high profile legal firm, with many impressive wins to their credit. The link below is their announcement and brief concerning the illegality of the state's actions. http://blog.pacificlegal.org/plf-asks-supreme-court-review-challenge-californias-mining-ban/
Administrators Jim_Alaska Posted July 14, 2017 Administrators Posted July 14, 2017 Alan, there is no new news in our cases, but the Trump administration has already taken on the plight of miners in the coal industry. I have petitioned The head of EPA as well as Ryan Zinke, head of the Dept of Agriculture in regard to the illegal actions of the state of California's ban on a federally protected right to mine. Whether that will go anywhere is yet to be seen, but for now we think our best chance of winning is at the Supreme Court level. We are still waiting to see if they agree to hear the case. Once you get the the Supreme Court level things move even slower than at lower levels. Alan 1
Members Alan Posted July 14, 2017 Author Members Posted July 14, 2017 Jim, We appreciate the update and added information. It is our hope that eventually the actions of the State of California will be overturned by the Federal government. It is also our hope that the Trump Administration, at all levels, will cleanse our land of the illegal laws, unjust governmental regulations, and the excessive regulations, that the previous administrations put into place in order to turn our country over to Socialism and Communism. King David said, "Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?" Psalm 94:20 The Socialist administrations of the past tried to change our country from a Republic to a Socialist, or Communist, country through mischievous laws, regulations, and government bureaucracy. One of the reasons why I think the Trump Administration is good for America is that I feel that Trump is putting individuals into our Federal government agencies that will repeal unneeded, and unjust, legislation, and turn our country back to being a Republic. Alan Jim_Alaska 1
Members BabeinChrist Posted July 15, 2017 Members Posted July 15, 2017 I don't mean to discourage my brethren, but I believe that it is already too late for our country. I'm not even 40 years old and I have already witnessed a MAJOR downward spiral in the USA. Especially in the 21st century...things became notably darker, and it has spiraled downhill at an exponential rate. Now that we have allowed open, legal & even matrimonial sodomy, it is clear that this empire will fall. We have allowed sodomites & even women behind the pulpits of America. God will NEVER bless us when we, as a nation, have defiantly disobeyed Him. 98-99% of the preachers in America are a joke. They've turned churches into a social club. No hard preaching, no preaching against sin, just LOVE everyone. And while of course God is love, God also hates. And He hates righteously. I won't pray for God to bless America, because I know God will never bless sin. I do pray that as this ship sinks further, the hearts of men will not harden against the Lord & that a revival of salvation will pull as many as possible out of the fire. As far as Trump....he is just like all the other puppets. He is a wicked, prideful, arrogant, money-obsessed fornicating adulterer who dances to whatever song the "god" of this world(satan) pulls his strings to. "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.".......Ephesians 6:12
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