Good Grief

[Anon]

Why is it that these days you can't disagree with a gay person for any reason, or you are infringing on their "civil rights"?   I am finding that gays are allowed to say as they please about Christians, but Christians don't dare say anything against them.

 

I really do try to be nice (like online and stuff) and respectful of people who happen to be gay, same as people who happen to be shacking up or sleeping around....but they have such chips on their shoulder, and the government just jumps in so fast to protect and help them if they ever get offended.

 

It's truly frustrating.

[Salyan]

Sounds like a story here...

[Ukulelemike]

Feelings of entitlement. Always happens when the government makes new rules up to invent a new class of people.

 

The 14th Amendment, equal protection under the law, is what is being used to drive homosexual marriage and the forced 'tolerance' of it. The odd thing is, somehow, they managed to convince the courts that they were being denied the same rights heterosexuals had, ie, the right to marry. However, they ALWAYS had the same right: to marry someone of the opposite sex. Straights couldn't marry people of the same sex, nor could homosexuals. But to insist that, because they 'love' someone of the same sex, they were denied the right to marry them, was actually to push a NEW right into being. I don't believe that the constitution guarantees ANYONE the right to marry who they love, per se, just the right to marry, and the precedent since well before the founding of the country was marriage to someone of the opposite sex, (often even ARRANGED marriages, so, not someone they even loved or knew), that was the norm and the rule.

 

But now the courts have interpreted it into something new and unknown in our, or any society, and have thus, created a new right.

 

So, how can you NOT feel entitled? They are getting the courts to force everyone to bend over (backward, thankfully...sorry) to their agenda, and others are having their natural, protected rights removed for their sake. I would feel entitled.   

[Anon]

The story is I was on a forum discussing a recent ruling that a t shirt company has been forced to make gay pride shirts and attend sensitivity training, even though their policy had always been clear they reserved the right to turn down any order.

 

My point is, this affects all rights of all small business owners to make decisions best for their company.  Since when can the government tell people how to run their business?   But people think it's just gay bashing.

[ThePilgrim]

The story is I was on a forum discussing a recent ruling that a t shirt company has been forced to make gay pride shirts and attend sensitivity training, even though their policy had always been clear they reserved the right to turn down any order.

 

My point is, this affects all rights of all small business owners to make decisions best for their company.  Since when can the government tell people how to run their business?   But people think it's just gay bashing.

Since the government abandoned the Constitution it can do anything it wants.  All restraints on government have been pretty much removed.

[Jim_Alaska]

The Gay and Lesbian lOBby is simply huge. Big bucks there to influence both legislatures and individuals with their PR. Couple that with political correctness and you have your answer.

[Genevanpreacher]

Sodomites are hateful.

They love having the power to destroy you if you say anything against their 'lifestyle', even to damaging your property or slandering your good name, but, hey...they have their rights...they can still shop at Walmart, move into your neighborhood, and even vote.

 

What else do they want?

 

Destruction of real rights that we are endowed by our Creator with. And everything good and honest and pure they want to defile.

[Anon]

I've seen online where people will trash a business for being against gays.   It's getting a little frightening these days to be white and straight and Christian.    Three of the most unpopular groups in the country.

[No Nicolaitans]

I just read an article about a Christian-owned company who prints t-shirts. The local gay/lesbian group wanted them to print some shirts for them, and the company refused.

 

The owners of the company have been ordered by The Human Rights Commission to print the shirts and go to "diversity training". I don't know if having a Human Rights Commission order you to do that is the same as a court ordering it or not...but still...

 

http://christiannews.net/2014/10/08/kentucky-commission-wants-to-force-christian-company-to-print-pro-homosexual-t-shirts/

[Ukulelemike]

This is a good time for churches to look at their tax status. If you are 501C3, its a great time to get out from under that, because with it come the strings whith which the government can have control. That doesn't mean you will pay taxes-the IRC 508C1A defines churches as being naturally tax excepted because they are churches-you dont have to request it or apply for it-churches automatically fall under it.

 

I suspect this who queer marriage issue will end up with tax exempt churches being forced to do weddings, and pastors and staff sent to re-education training, er, I mean, Sensitivity training, if we give the government any foothold into our churches, and that's exactly what 501C3 does.

 

Good Grief, indeed.

[John81]

The homosexual movement worked to get their cause viewed as a matter of civil rights. Then they began taking the same approach blacks in America have used for several decades now. Just as folks are often charged with being racist for saying anything a black person might not like to hear, folks are now charged as being homophOBes for saying anything a homosexual doesn't want to hear.

 

In the same way the government stepped in and forced businesses and individuals to do business with, sell to and bend over backwards for blacks (and other minorities) the government is now doing the same for homosexuals in the name of civil rights.

 

All of this is unconstitutional, but as has been pointed out, that doesn't matter since they don't abide by the Constitution anyway. As also pointed out, the 14th Amendment has been greatly abused and misused extending it's original limited nature and intent to toss open the door for all sorts of government interference, take over and mischief.

 

As Christians, we should really expect nothing less from sinners and sinful leaders.

 

If we are standing for Christ, and doing so in a Christlike manner, then we are to rejoice that we are counted worthy to suffer for Him. That seems to be an especially hard concept for us to grasp.