No Room for Truth at Fox News

[John81]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaCemmsnNk

Listen to the five minutes of truth that got Judge Napolitano fired from his show.

If you haven't already, you after listening to this from the judge, you might want to watch this video posted by Pilgrim, if you haven't already.



How much longer will the truth be tolerated at all?

[swathdiver]

The truth isn't tolerated, even at Fox News. Might as well be called the Popery News Network.

[1Timothy115]

What if "conspiracy-theorist" was just another term from the PC handbook to minimize or quell any opposition to what your eyes see, ears hear, and that still small voice inside you is saying (Acts 4:12). It's all going to melt one day.



2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Did you have an unusually mild winter are the buds on the trees popping out?

[swathdiver]

What if "conspiracy-theorist" was just another term from the PC handbook...

Did you have an unusually mild winter are the buds on the trees popping out?

It is a term direct from their playbook just for that purpose.

My maple trees didn't lose their leaves until a January cold snap. They have already replenished their branches in brilliant green splendor!

[John81]

It's actually surprising they allowed the judge to have his own show and keep it this long. He's been telling the truth about a lot of things folks don't want the truth told about.

This shows us so clearly why so many are blinded to the Gospel, why we have such wicked politicians, why even Christians continually vote for the same wickedness, and why it could be easy for some world ruler to get the masses support. People don't want to hear the truth. Most prefer the comfortable lies than the uncomfortable true. They won't face the truth in front of them in this world since they can't see that, they are unable to see spiritual truth as well.

[Invicta]

I try to stay out of discussions on US politics.

However my peach tree has got pink buds coming out.

Some years ago, we had a house in France and when we went there in the spring, there were always two types of flowers blossoming at the same time. The first we knew as cowslips. We were told that there were two types, one grew in the field and the other in the woods, one had a scent and the other didn't. The French name for these is Cuckoo. We did not recognize the other flower, but my wife looked it up in her widflower books and decided it was Lady smock. In England this has another name of Cuckoo flower. I was told last year the French call it "St Georges"

My wife always wanted som of these in our garden here, as we have Cowslips. Last year I managed to get some seeds from a specialist nursery, and was told they need vernalization and this means they must be given a period of cold to make them think they have gone through a winter. How a little seed that is smaller than a grain of sand can "think" wasn't explained, but I know God made them that way.

I had two packets which I put in the chiller of the fridge. (The seedsman said I could perhaps sow them in trays and put the trays in the fridge, but I can just imagine my wife's reaction if I tried.) I then put one packet in the freezer and the other, I sowed in a tray and put outside. A day or two later we had a really cold snap with snow and ice, so I sowed the other packet and put the tray outside) I then put them in my greenhouse and I now have 2 trays with lots of minute seedlings coming through.

Edited March 17, 2012 by Invicta

[John81]

It actually goes much beyond politics, it goes to the core of truth and the fact most don't care or prefer to accept the lie.

It's difficult to reach folks for Christ when they have grown up being fed one lie after another, not taught to seek the truth, taught to go along to get along, and taught that truth is a lie.

Whether presented with historical, political or spiritual truth, so many are preconditioned to not care or to actually resist the truth.

[Oldtimer]

It actually goes much beyond politics, it goes to the core of truth and the fact most don't care or prefer to accept the lie.

It's difficult to reach folks for Christ when they have grown up being fed one lie after another, not taught to seek the truth, taught to go along to get along, and taught that truth is a lie.

Whether presented with historical, political or spiritual truth, so many are preconditioned to not care or to actually resist the truth.

IMHO, you've nailed it to the front door.

"It actually goes much beyond politics, it goes to the core of truth and the fact most don't care or prefer to accept the lie" OR have never heard the truth, as it should be spoken.

As old as I am, I only realized recently that I need to remove the term "good luck" from my speech. And, I must admit that it is a struggle. Heard it used by others all my life and thought nothing of it or about it. Same thing with the word coincidence. "Oh it was just a coincidence that abc and xyz happened at the same time."

One other example of never hearing the truth as it should be spoken that comes from my own experiences. All my life I've had an interest in natural sciences and history. Especially ancient history. So, to make a long story short, I fell, hook, line and sinker for the theories of evolution. It was what I was taught, from grade school forward to today by the History Channel, National Geographics and other media outlets with "documentaries". Yes, I've read about creation in the Bible many times. Thought I'd reconciled the "truth" I'd been taught about evolution, geology, paleontology, archeology and such with the Bible and God's use of time vs ours.

That is, until my pastor challenged my "theory" about a year ago. It was as much the conviction in his voice as it was his few brief sentences that led me to seek the TRUTH. Over the years of being indoctrinated, either I'd never heard the opposition to evolution or the opposition was cast in such as way that it wasn't realistic. To cast aside evolution was to believe the earth is flat.

Once I accepted his challenge, discovered for the first time, valid (IMHO) scientific opposition to all I'd been taught. Point by point rebuttals that supported Genesis. From how the Grand Canyon was actually formed to why there are seashell fossils on top of mountains. And, too much more to list here.

It wasn't easy to undo 50+ years of thinking I knew the truth. During this process of doing a 180 degree turn, it was similar to trying to reverse the direction of the Titanic in a small harbor. Like a small tugboat, I had to keep pushing. Looking back, the Holy Spirit was the captain of that tugboat, as I couldn't have done it by myself. Not after all those years of being "educated" that God flipped a switch and sat back to watch evolution unfold on earth.

IMHO, the judge is much like my pastor. One of the few voices who try to challenge "truths" people think they know. From what I understand civics is no longer taught in schools. Today, few understand the difference between a republic and a democracy. "States Rights", the Bill of Rights, and more are just dusty old concepts that have no bearing on today's MODERN society.

This post is getting too long, so I'd better close with:

It's difficult to reach folks for Christ when they have grown up being fed one lie after another, not taught to seek the truth, taught to go along to get along, and taught that truth is a lie.

Edited March 18, 2012 by Oldtimer

[1Timothy115]

IMHO, you've nailed it to the front door.

"It actually goes much beyond politics, it goes to the core of truth and the fact most don't care or prefer to accept the lie" OR have never heard the truth, as it should be spoken.

As old as I am, I only realized recently that I need to remove the term "good luck" from my speech. And, I must admit that it is a struggle. Heard it used by others all my life and thought nothing of it or about it. Same thing with the word coincidence. "Oh it was just a coincidence that abc and xyz happened at the same time."

One other example of never hearing the truth as it should be spoken that comes from my own experiences. All my life I've had an interest in natural sciences and history. Especially ancient history. So, to make a long story short, I fell, hook, line and sinker for the theories of evolution. It was what I was taught, from grade school forward to today by the History Channel, National Geographics and other media outlets with "documentaries". Yes, I've read about creation in the Bible many times. Thought I'd reconciled the "truth" I'd been taught about evolution, geology, paleontology, archeology and such with the Bible and God's use of time vs ours.

That is, until my pastor challenged my "theory" about a year ago. It was as much the conviction in his voice as it was his few brief sentences that led me to seek the TRUTH. Over the years of being indoctrinated, either I'd never heard the opposition to evolution or the opposition was cast in such as way that it wasn't realistic. To cast aside evolution was to believe the earth is flat.

Once I accepted his challenge, discovered for the first time, valid (IMHO) scientific opposition to all I'd been taught. Point by point rebuttals that supported Genesis. From how the Grand Canyon was actually formed to why there are seashell fossils on top of mountains. And, too much more to list here.

It wasn't easy to undo 50+ years of thinking I knew the truth. During this process of doing a 180 degree turn, it was similar to trying to reverse the direction of the Titanic in a small harbor. Like a small tugboat, I had to keep pushing. Looking back, the Holy Spirit was the captain of that tugboat, as I couldn't have done it by myself. Not after all those years of being "educated" that God flipped a switch and sat back to watch evolution unfold on earth.

IMHO, the judge is much like my pastor. One of the few voices who try to challenge "truths" people think they know. From what I understand civics is no longer taught in schools. Today, few understand the difference between a republic and a democracy. "States Rights", the Bill of Rights, and more are just dusty old concepts that have no bearing on today's MODERN society.

This post is getting too long, so I'd better close with:

Yes, it is hard to undo the indoctrination of humanistic secular schools. They had us from 8 to 5 for 5 days a week and nine months out of every year.

Another example you missed would be like a destroyer at sea trying to avoid an aircraft carrier turning into the wind to launch during night ops. You better know for sure which way the wind is blowing.

[Wilchbla]

Interesting video but what is his point? You can say "what if" a millions times for anything.

"What if when we die we find Allah sitting on the throne with Muhammed next to him? Or Elohim with Joseph Smith next to him. Or we have to apologize to Mary for all the nasty things we've said about the RCC?"

Also, if you really really want to win the war on drugs don't legalize them which is absolute lunacy but deal with it the way the Taliban dealt with the problem. Kill all the cartels and dealers and burn down the fields.

Edited March 19, 2012 by Wilchbla

[John81]

Interesting video but what is his point? You can say "what if" a millions times for anything.

"What if when we die we find Allah sitting on the throne with Muhammed next to him? Or Elohim with Joseph Smith next to him. Or we have to apologize to Mary for all the nasty things we've said about the RCC?"

Also, if you really really want to win the war on drugs don't legalize them which is absolute lunacy but deal with it the way the Taliban dealt with the problem. Kill all the cartels and dealers and burn down the fields.

The point with saying "what if" was to try and get people to think and consider for themselves, not to say one can say "what if" about anything. If one considers the matters the judge mentioned it's clear that the "what if" leads one to see that "it is".

The "war on drugs" has been and is a failure. The entire "war" is filled with fraud and corruption and has totally failed to end the drug problem, to lessen the drug problem, or to even limit the drug problem. Drugs are more available and more potent now than when the "war on drugs" was declared. There are far more on drugs today than then. Prisons are overflowing with those arrested on drug or drug related charges, and the prisons themselves are filled with drugs. The "war on drugs" needs to be ended and some new approach put into place.

[OLD fashioned preacher]

If you would allow employers to do drug tests without notice to 100% of employees and fire them on the spot for any trace of drugs (not prescribed to them) at any level at any time (even if it was something they took or smoked during the weekend on their own time but showed up in the test) with the reason for termination showing up in a job reference plus mandatory "treatment"

If visitation rights of non-custodial parents were terminated based on a positive drug test on day of visitation plus mandatory "treatment"

If public assistance meant mandatory drug test twice a week with a positive test resulting in disallowance of benefits plus mandatory "treatment"

Given a little time you would make more headway (at less overall cost) than the current SOP in this "war"


btw: I realize you can't eliminate sinful or self-destructive behavior of lost people, but you don't have to make their sin easy for them to bear. I also know that worldly treatment programs are dismal failures but you can't force someone into true salvation (their only real hope)

[John81]

If you would allow employers to do drug tests without notice to 100% of employees and fire them on the spot for any trace of drugs (not prescribed to them) at any level at any time (even if it was something they took or smoked during the weekend on their own time but showed up in the test) with the reason for termination showing up in a job reference plus mandatory "treatment"

If visitation rights of non-custodial parents were terminated based on a positive drug test on day of visitation plus mandatory "treatment"

If public assistance meant mandatory drug test twice a week with a positive test resulting in disallowance of benefits plus mandatory "treatment"

Given a little time you would make more headway (at less overall cost) than the current SOP in this "war"


btw: I realize you can't eliminate sinful or self-destructive behavior of lost people, but you don't have to make their sin easy for them to bear. I also know that worldly treatment programs are dismal failures but you can't force someone into true salvation (their only real hope)

This is the sort of thing that needs to be considered. The "war on drugs" is a failure. Something new needs to be brought into play.

One reason this option would be hard to get passed is because there are so many who use drugs today. Businesses could find it difficult to fill their job openings. Politicians wouldn't want to deal with that. Then there would be all the pressure from Unions against such. Every liberal group and "minority rights" groups would rise up against the "opression" and "racism" of such because it would have such an impact upon the poor and "minorities".

For these reasons alone, the Dems would not go along and most Repubs would fear to push for this as well.

For these same reason, and some more, the "Taliban solution" would not be accepted in the America of today.