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Our Fourth Amendment rights are being violated all day every day all over our country in examples like this. The government has no Constitutional right or authority to be performing these warrantless searches and invading people's personal privacy like this. The body scans are pornographic and the body checks are molestation, if either were done on the street it would be considered sexual assault. These are not one-time isolated incidents, this is happening way too frequently.

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I agree, just glad I'm not a traveler using the air lines. And of course they will resist searching those they should profile for fear of lawsuits.

There is many way that todays president and congressmen say, "We know what is better for you and your family, much more so than you do, and we are here to take care of you, and we will let nothing get in the way of us caring for you, we will overrule you if we have to."

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Agreed. I would never allow my wife to be viewed through such scanners nor would I allow someone to "feel her up", which is most often what it amounts to.

Myself, I would not submit to such illegal measures either.

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I am the oddball into this because, I can see why they are doing this. First off that video they should of picked a better song than shout by tears for fears from the 80's.
Anyhow, Anyone that is against this checking remember what happened on 9/11/01? After that date they wanted to be cautious. This isn't taking our freedoms away. They are making sure you don't have anything that will hurt a pilot or anyone on the plan. Blame the bad people of the world that wants to causes trouble and kill off people for this. The government isn't invading our privacy because they want to monitor what we are doing. What is the difference between a doctor X raying your body verses TSA stuff? They see bones and sometimes muscles. they aren't going to invade your privacy because each person looks the same . They are looking for weapons or anything that will hurt someone.
The airports are not happy they are using that and using this stuff on people but to protect Americans here and around us we have to follow the law of the land. That is what the Bible states some place we have to follow the law.

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So Kay, if someone felt your husband's testicles you'd be okay with it in the name of safety? Your husband would be okay with someone feeling your breasts and vagina too? Yes, I used those words for shock value because that's EXACTLY what is happening all over this country and you shouldn't be okay with it you should be disgusted! It's sexual assault!

There are reports of TSA goons putting their hands inside of people pants because the clothing was too baggy. Cavity searches are next, why not?

Oh, and the government IS spying on its own people. We live in a police state whether you like it or not. Read "A Nation of Sheep" by Judge Andrew Napolitano, which is a few years old. He's not a quack - he's a judge. He documents cases where police and other law enforcement personnel use modern technology to spy on people without warrants (that is a violation of the Fourth Amendment).

The government ALWAYS seeks to get its filthy hands into our business all the time. It's called POWER and CONTROL and when the government has it we DON'T HAVE FREEDOM.

The government is taking our freedoms away. If it is not stopped, which I don't think it will be, at some point people who "speak out" against the government's safety practices will need to be dealt with "in the interest of national security." What this translates to is Christian persecution in this generation or the next.

Reagan was right, these are the scariest words ever spoken: "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

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Deuteronomy 25:11-12 (KJV)

11) When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:
12) Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity [her].


I didn't watch the video however; I see the point of security. But this I believe is "placebo" security and invasion of privacy.
People have gotten through these security measures (At least heard so I think on the news.) and also, I believe they could cause damage without even getting past the metal detectors if they wanted.
At best I believe this protects you once you are ON the plane. Which in effect if they wanted to kill people wouldn't have to be on the plane in the first place.

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I didn't watch the video however; I see the point of security. But this I believe is "placebo" security and invasion of privacy.
People have gotten through these security measures (At least heard so I think on the news.) and also, I believe they could cause damage without even getting past the metal detectors if they wanted.
At best I believe this protects you once you are ON the plane. Which in effect if they wanted to kill people wouldn't have to be on the plane in the first place.



EXACTLY.

Now if Americans stand by and accept this sort of treatment from the government, then terrorists will start blowing up buses. Then we'll have to go through all of this for a bus ride. Then they'll blow up something else, then we'll have to be checked when we travel from state to state, just like under the U.S.S.R.

All for "national security."

If we don't have our freedom, if we don't have our Constitutional rights, we don't have anything and the terrorists have won.

We're effectively the U.S.S.A. at that point.

I would encourage you to watch all the videos on the link I provided. I was "iffy" and on the fence about this until I did. Edited by Rick Schworer
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Please note that middle easterners are not subjected to this type of thing. Who says the TSA isn't profiling?

Bag-checking is one thing. Molesting is another. When someone puts their hands in the private area of someone who does not want those hands there (the exception would be wardens examining prisoners as they come into prison) is molestation, no matter what veneer people try to put on it.

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I'll be flying soon, hoping I don't have to deal with it. Usually, as a returning service member, I get a fairly nice greeting but seeing as they take 3 year olds to the side and pat them down...not sure me being in the military will have much stock.

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Next the government will require body scans and pat downs for life flight emergencies!
They could be terrorists posing as critically ill patients. :o

I only have to fly one more time and thats it.
Thankfully, His full body scan can search the heart, joints and marrow.
That scan is one I look forward to.

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Can someone see your private parts on these scanners? I don't normally fly but may have to for work some day.

Yes. What can be seen is so clear and graphic it can't even be shown on TV. TSA workers have been caught numerous times gathering around when a "hot woman" comes through the line.

Were it not the government doing it this would be considered pornographic and a gross violation of ones privacy.

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