Bible - KJV or Modern Version Discussion
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I Peter 5:2-3 says, "Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly: not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock" This is from the King James Original Version. I see the prosperity preachers today begging people for money from many gullible believers who believe they are sending money to God's prophets. There are no more prophets today. They ended with the apostle Paul in the early part of the church age. These charlatans preach for money which is filthy lucre; therefore, they lord themselves over God's flock and set themselves as ba…
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1 Peter 3:10
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For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile.
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Acts 12:25 - The Devil is in the Details In Acts 12:25 we read: ?And Barnabas and Saul returned FROM (ex) Jerusalem, when they had fulfilled their ministry, and took with them John, whose surname was Mark.? This is the reading found in a multitude of Greek manuscripts and Bible versions including P74, Alexandrinus, the Textus Receptus, the Modern Greek N.T., the Vulgate 425, Wycliffe 1395, the Geneva Bible 1599, the Italian Diodati 1649, Riveduta 1927, French Martin 1744, Louis Segond 1910, Ostervald 1996, the Spanish Reina Valera 1602 - 1995, the Revised Version 1881, ASV 1901, Weymouth, Lamsa?s translation of the Syriac 1933, Douay 1950, Darby, Young?s, the NKJV 198…
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Mathew 7:1
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Judge not, that ye be not judged.
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Slaves or servants? This little word study resulted from a letter I received from another Christian who wrote me about the alleged error of translating the Greek word 'doulos' as "servant" and not always as "slave". Here is his letter and then my response to the question he brings up. This brother writes: Recently I was at a gathering and the minister made a big issue about the word "slaves" in the new versions. He said it should have been "slaves"and not "servants" as the King James says. Could you give me more info on this word "servants" and why it should be translated servants and not slaves? He implied that it was a transltors preference and nothing to do with Gr…
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Acts 10:19 ?three men?, ?two men? or just ? some men?? Further textual confusion both by Westcott-Hort and the two so called ?oldest and best? manuscripts is further seen in Acts 10:19. In the King James Bible we read: ?While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, THREE men seek thee.? The three men refers back to verses 10:7-8 where we read that Cornelius ?called TWO of his household servants, AND a devout soldier of them that waited on him continually...he sent THEM to Joppa.? Thus there were three men altogether who went to find Peter. The reading of "THREE men" is again confirmed in chapter eleven verse eleven where Peter is rehearsing the …
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Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. Do you think this ark of the testement is the ark of the covenant?
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I'm currently SBC, but I do believe the KJV is the one we're supposed to use. Other than that, can you tell me why you are a member of an Indepedent Church and why you believe it's different that SBC (other than you freely give to missionaries of your choice and the autonomy? Thanks in Advance.
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Galatians 6:2 says, "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ." Galatians 6:5 says, "For every man shall bear his own burden." We are to bear each other's burdens or loads for this is well-pleasing to the Lord! Since we are also to bear our burdens or load of our work for the Lord, then we are to obey that command also! So we can help each other out by obeying the above two commands. The Scriptures do not contradict each other! They always agree! :Green :Green :Green
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Bible and Homosexuality
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I need a quick reference to the verses that speak to the "abomination" of homosexuality and also one that speaks directly to lesbianism (somewhere in Corinthians I believe). Please help, time is of the essance!!
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I don't have much time since I'm pretty busy right now, but I have a question. My mom wants a Bible that is a literal translation, word for word. The only thing that I could find was Young's. Does anyone know what source texts he used? Thanks. :smile
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Guys, I have been looking around and saw many anti Ruckman comments. Why are thee so many anti Ruckman folks on here? Even if you do not agree with him on everything. You will still agree with him about 95% of the time. As an example I do not agree with my wife 100% of the time but I still love my wife and she is a good wife. Ruckman has helped many people out in the ministry. He has had many attend PBI his college. He has stood up for the KJV for many years. Just to name a few good things that Dr. Ruckman has accomplished. Atlas
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Do those of you who believe that the KJV is superior to the TR and the Massoretic texts, believe the margin clarifications in the KJV are inspired likewise?
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I was reading Revelations 5, trying to picture what John saw, tonight. And a thought crossed my mind. biblion = scroll That the "book of life" is really a scroll of life (the bit about it being written on the front and back got me thinking about it). Why did the word "book" get used when the English word "scroll" exists? Any thoughts on this?
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Hi everyone, I've been wondering over the last couple days about this: Missionaries crack a new language, and begin translating the Bible into their language. From what do they translate? A Greek text? The KJV? Does the nation need to learn English? Thanks, Andrew
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What's it all about? It is pointed out by Jesus in the surrounding chapters that people of the OT have had faith even though they were given a lot less than the people around Him, and I can understand that argument. But here He seems to be talking about the truth being 'hidden' from those who are cautious. What does He mean?
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Anyone heard of this? Thought it was kind of interesting. http://personalpromisebible.com/?text=Kevin
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I love the KJV. I am evangelist who works among young people who are not very literate. When I studied theology at a liberal college I realised how the devil has attacked the inerrancy of the Received Text by bringing out heretical modern versions based on the gnostic/papist Westcott Hort edition. So I am working currently on a KJV version true to the Received Text, a true transliteration of the Word of God, not a free translation. I am looking for people, even those who would disagree with putting the KJV into current English, to peer-review my work. If you would like to peer-review what I am doing, my email address is nigelthomasvibartdixon@hotmail.co.uk. Please …
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Go ahead. I read the NIV and KJV. I've heard a few arguments but never anything that holds weight. Since signing up yesterday with this forum, I've seen that the NIV changes who killed Goliath and also calls the Devil the "Morning Star" as well as Jesus being the Morning Star. 2 good arguments yet two that I have never heard. Please... give me more.
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I am an evangelists wife and have always used the KJV without question. I recently started a bible study in which the Scripture is from the NIV. What are a few of the problems in particular with this version?
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(This is stemming from the conversation about the updated KJV and some discussions I have had about the term marriage - I did not want to derail the other thread, so here goes.) I have been thinking about the redefining of marriage. Since, as a culture, we seem to be heading in the direction of marriage no longer meaning one woman and one man, we are presented with a problem. As words change meaning, the literature that uses those words ends up unclear. I am not trying to turn this into a KJV debate, so lets leave scripture out of it (for now). Should we think about a new term that makes the distinction between marriage as the traditional definition says and marr…
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D.L. Moody 1 2
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Can anyone tell me what version of the Bible did D.L. Moody use? I have a co-worker who went to Moody Bible Institute and he made the comment that the KJV was a "bad" translation because the translators used the Latin translations to translate the KJV. I corrected him once, he assured me he was correct, and rather than choke my co-worker, I simply walked away. I went back to the 1611 preface and found where the translators specifically said they used the Hebrew and Greek. Part of my counter-argument to the KJV being a "bad" translation was that the Great Awakenings began by preachers preaching out of the KJV. Since my co-worker was a Moody graduate, I thought I would p…
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I first listened to J. Vernon Mcgee when I was a teenagers and saw the movie Jaws at the theater, and found I couldn't sleep for several nights afterwards (closed my eyes and I'd see hsrak's teeth). I turn on the local Christian station and one of the programs was J. Vernon McGee. His voice was so soothing and the message relaxing I was able to sleep. I heard him again, live when he came to speak at John Brown universtiry when I was in college. He died not long after. When I was working landscape maintenance, I'd listne to him while I mowed and trimmed, among other preachers on that station. I was able then to follow more of the equence of studies, and while I didn't…
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The ESV is the updated version of the RSV, it went back and replaced "young woman" with virgin and some other stuff like that.
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I am a Heartland Baptist Bible College Student and i am needing some info about the NASB We have to research on where it came from and why did the translaters do it and what text did they use if any one has any info on this subject it is greatly needed. Thank You And May God Bless You
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