Is the word "ship" wrong in the KJB?

[John81]

Its my opinion that truth' date=' not given in the right spirit, is just about as worthless and untruth.[/quote']

I believe the tone and spirit of the message is as important as the message itself. If the message is right but weighed down with meanness or pride or personal attacks, then the message is diminished and often lost.

[zealyouthguy]

And I'll add hopefully that we all separate the issue of "Who we agree with" when discussing the issue of Christian charity and kindness.

Meaning... that the issue brought up by those above doesn't mean they are "modernist bible deniers" etc. etc.

I was basically accused (I am new here, but I don't offend easily so it's no biggie to me) with some acidic remarks that were veiled attacks on whether I believe in the inerrancy of the KJV. Some "assumptions" were made and then the accusation followed.

It's the inability to discuss the issue kindly that is at hand I believe.

But I suppose the easy answer is "You're all heretics."

[John81]

And I'll add hopefully that we all separate the issue of "Who we agree with" when discussing the issue of Christian charity and kindness.

Meaning... that the issue brought up by those above doesn't mean they are "modernist bible deniers" etc. etc.

I was basically accused (I am new here, but I don't offend easily so it's no biggie to me) with some acidic remarks that were veiled attacks on whether I believe in the inerrancy of the KJV. Some "assumptions" were made and then the accusation followed.

It's the inability to discuss the issue kindly that is at hand I believe.

But I suppose the easy answer is "You're all heretics."

:amen:

[dwayner79]

john, zeal, :tip:

[jamesnc2006]

:loco Uh yeah' date=' I would say that is definitely straining at gnats. Who are these ppl anyway who quibble over ship or boat???[/quote']

Humanistic Pharisees of course! :dead: :verymad:

[pneu-engine]

This is one of the reasons that I am moving away from the Baptist denomination....

It's astounding that all the time that Will K has been here that everyone who agrees with seems to have forgotten his attitude and rude remarks and accusations. Somehow, in this forum we forget that we are all a part of the body of Christ. That means that we are all brothers in Christ. Yet, Baptists seem so anxious to throw one of their brothers to the wolves or attack them when they disagree. I don't know, I think if my sister disagreed with me on the KJV or music or dress, I would still be kind and loving to her and do my best to keep a strong relationship between us. What do Baptists do to their brethren? Separate, condemn, mock, cheer on others that do? Yup, let's all give Will a hearty "amen" as he tears down the body of Christ. It may not bother the rest of you, but whether I agree with them or not, I get deeply offended when my brother is mocked or bullied.

The main problem that I see with the whole attitude that wants to attack Will Kinney and his style is that the attackers act like they have forgotten that there is a war on. That war has been waging since Eve gave Adam a forbidden fruit to eat.

Nowadays there seems to be a great proliferation of those that want to be weak, wimpy, wishy-washy and cry foul if they feel like they ought to be offended.. How is it they can't just take it on the chin and roll with the punches??????? This is infinitely worse than football or rugby. This is a war wherein the enemy is doing it's best to wreak havoc on God's pure and holy Word is by watering it down and adulterating it. Will K. sees that fight and feels the heat of the battle. My hat's off to him. :thumb :thumb :clap:

[kevinmiller]

Don't you see attacks and criticism against our brethren as counter-productive? Or better yet, unbiblical? Last time I checked, we weren't commanded to "throw punches" at our brothers in Christ. Wow, I just can't follow that line of reasoning. There is a right and a wrong way to do things. Will K doesn't do it the right way. Not the Biblical way anyway.

[Will]

Don't you see attacks and criticism against our brethren as counter-productive? Or better yet' date=' unbiblical? Last time I checked, we weren't commanded to "throw punches" at our brothers in Christ. Wow, I just can't follow that line of reasoning. There is a right and a wrong way to do things. Will K doesn't do it the right way. Not the Biblical way anyway.[/quote']

I agree. Will K goes about it all wrong.

[pneu-engine]

Don't you see attacks and criticism against our brethren as counter-productive? Or better yet' date=' unbiblical? Last time I checked, we weren't commanded to "throw punches" at our brothers in Christ. Wow, I just can't follow that line of reasoning. There is a right and a wrong way to do things. Will K doesn't do it the right way. Not the Biblical way anyway.[/quote']

Is it possible, kevin, that you see Will K. as so wrong because you don't have the same fervor and conviction for the righteousness of God that he has????? You don't do the same level of study that he does, do you??????? You don't see the need to keep the faith and God's pure and holy Word ultra-precise, do you?????????? The question is how much error are you willing to put up with??????? Will doesn't want any at all in God's Word. In your work, Kevin, is a little error ok??????? It isn't in mine. If I make an error in design, it could cost millions of dollars in a failed concept, not to mention the injury to personnel and damage to equipment.

What would ypou answer to the Apostle Paul when he refuted Peter to his face?????? Would you side with Peter saying that Paul was too harsh???????

You do have one thing right though::::::::::

There really and truly is a right and wrong way to do this thing that Will does. Yea verily, I praise God that he (Will) is indeed doing it right and proper. :thumb :clap:

[dwayner79]

The main problem that I see with the whole attitude that wants to attack Will Kinney and his style is that the attackers act like they have forgotten that there is a war on. That war has been waging since Eve gave Adam a forbidden fruit to eat.

Nowadays there seems to be a great proliferation of those that want to be weak, wimpy, wishy-washy and cry foul if they feel like they ought to be offended.. How is it they can't just take it on the chin and roll with the punches??????? This is infinitely worse than football or rugby. This is a war wherein the enemy is doing it's best to wreak havoc on God's pure and holy Word is by watering it down and adulterating it. Will K. sees that fight and feels the heat of the battle. My hat's off to him. :thumb :thumb

WOW! Either you think those of us that do not agree with wills position are actually on the Devil's side, and are therefore your enemy in Christ, or you are actually ok with "going to war" against your fellow Christian. Either way, I think I pity you. That sounds nothing like the body of Christ we find in the NT.

[Madeline]

WOW! Either you think those of us that do not agree with wills position are actually on the Devil's side' date=' and are therefore your enemy in Christ, or you are actually ok with "going to war" against your fellow Christian. Either way, I think I pity you. [b']That sounds nothing like the body of Christ we find in the NT.

:thumb

[pneu-engine]

WOW! Either you think those of us that do not agree with wills position are actually on the Devil's side' date=' and are therefore your enemy in Christ, or you are actually ok with "going to war" against your fellow Christian. Either way, I think I pity you. That sounds nothing like the body of Christ we find in the NT.[/quote']

DW, did you forget that Jesus told us that judgement has to first begin in the Church??????? Neither Will K. nor I are at war with all of you that disagree with us. The very fact that you think that we are attacking you is indicative that you might be a bit soft. We are told to endure hardness, as soldiers of Jesus Christ, meaning that we should be willing to take it on the chin when we are rebuked.

Anyway, you are wrong on both counts. I'm not your enemy, and I'm not at war with you.

[kevinmiller]

Perhaps we are going about this the wrong way. I would like to ask you how Will K is doing it the Biblical way? Please, explain to me how arrogance, condemnation, mocking of fellow believers is Biblical. Please, show me a verse that backs up his methods. Rebuking or exhorting is far too generic. Saying he has more zeal and that is why I have a problem is a strawman. Please show me how his METHODS are Biblical and God-honoring.

[Pastor Matt]

Ok, let's get this back to "Is the word "ship" wrong in the KJB?" or I see no need to keep this thread going. Let's keep posts about the topic rather than the poster. That goes for all members including myself.

[dwayner79]

Chapter and verse pleaseYou sir said we were at war. I was simply responding. I do not think I am being attacked. I do think Will (and often you) debate from a position of arrogance, unwilling to hear what other folks are saying, or consider their idea. If he/you do consider them, you are not willing to live with someone who differes in opinion without resorting to name calling. There is nothing Godly about that. I would love to know how you came to that conclusion.
Again, your words, not mine. :dunno: