Churches Abandon Baptist Name

[BrotherTony]

54 minutes ago, TheGloryLand said:

John the Independent Baptist, started the first church.

LOL John was a Jew, and was a "baptizer," not a Baptist, per se. And we all know who founded the Christian church!

[Jim_Alaska]

Matthew 3:1 (KJV) In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,

Luke 7:28 (KJV) For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

Luke 7:33 (KJV) For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.

Matthew 11:12 (KJV) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

[BrotherTony]

4 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

Matthew 3:1 (KJV) In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,

Luke 7:28 (KJV) For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

Luke 7:33 (KJV) For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.

Matthew 11:12 (KJV) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

English TRANSLATION of a Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic word...his action was that of a baptizer, or "baptist." Using your reasoning, we could well call ourselves "The church of God," or "the church of God."  

Edited May 16, 2023 by BrotherTony
To put back in what my correction software deleted.

[Pastor Scott Markle]

As for myself, I must contend that our Lord Jesus Christ started the New Testament church, NOT John the Baptist.

[TheGloryLand]

6 hours ago, Pastor Scott Markle said:

As for myself, I must contend that our Lord Jesus Christ started the New Testament church, NOT John the Baptist.

I’m just a voice in the wilderness.

[Jim_Alaska]

I was not contending that John was the founder of the church at all, someone else stuck that thought in there.

What I was pointing out is that God Himself, in the form if HIs Holy Spirit, as well as Jesus Himself, named John "The Baptist." That is why I gave Scripture to support this thought; Scripture calls him "The Baptist". Baptist was not his name, nor did it define what he did, but rather who he was. Baptist was his title, just as our title, being Baptists, is Baptist.

If God named John, " the Baptist" that is good enough for me and does not torture Scripture. Matthew 3:1 (KJV) In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,

[TheGloryLand]

On 5/16/2023 at 4:53 PM, Jim_Alaska said:

I was not contending that John was the founder of the church at all, someone else stuck that thought in there.

What I was pointing out is that God Himself, in the form if HIs Holy Spirit, as well as Jesus Himself, named John "The Baptist." That is why I gave Scripture to support this thought; Scripture calls him "The Baptist". Baptist was not his name, nor did it define what he did, but rather who he was. Baptist was his title, just as our title, being Baptists, is Baptist.

If God named John, " the Baptist" that is good enough for me and does not torture Scripture. Matthew 3:1 (KJV) In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,

When John the Baptist was baptizing, was he in the Old Testament or he was already in the New Testament? Before Jesus started His ministry. When does the New Testament exactly begin? Before His birth, or at His birth.

[Jim_Alaska]

John was the last of the Old Testament Prophets and the first of the New Testament preachers.

[TheGloryLand]

What happens to a Baptist church when they start turning Pentecostal? Who tells them that they must remove the name Baptist?

[Salyan]

Why waste our time with hypotheticals?  

[TheGloryLand]

On 7/10/2023 at 11:22 AM, Salyan said:

Why waste our time with hypotheticals?  

It might be a waste of time for you. Why ask why? We have many readers here. I don't say you are wasting my time.

[BrotherTony]

1 minute ago, TheGloryLand said:

It might be a waste of time for you. Why ask why? We have many readers here. I don't say you are wasting my time.

Because hypotheticals ARE a waste of time in most instances. 

[TheGloryLand]

2 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Because hypotheticals ARE a waste of time in most instances. 

Maybe, like what you are eating. Just saying, it interesting for some.

[BrotherTony]

14 minutes ago, TheGloryLand said:

Maybe, like what you are eating. Just saying, it interesting for some.

What one is eating is a valid question when it comes to weird dreams. Any good doctor or psychologist will tell you that. Hasn't this thread gotten a bit off track?

[TheGloryLand]

12 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

What one is eating is a valid question when it comes to weird dreams. Any good doctor or psychologist will tell you that. Hasn't this thread gotten a bit off track?

Yes, it has gotten off track