It is not in the bible !....why is it accepted ?

[winca\m]

1/   it is not in the bible that Jesus said 'we must be born again' - this is a latter day money making Protestant scam

2/                                          Mary had 'children other than Jesus'

Edited April 11, 2017 by winca\m

[No Nicolaitans]

13 minutes ago, winca\m said:

1/   it is not in the bible that Jesus said 'we must be born again' - this is a latter day money making Protestant scam

You're absolutely correct; the Lord Jesus Christ didn't say, "We must be born again." However, the Lord Jesus Christ did say, "Ye must be born again." (John 3:7)

2/                                          Mary had 'children other than Jesus'

You're absolutely correct. He had both brothers and sisters. (Mark 6:3)

 

[winca\m]

6 minutes ago, No Nicolaitans said:

does Jn.3:7 say we or thee and does Mk.6:3 say Mary had children other than Jesus.......not at all at all at all - wincam 

 

[Invicta]

45 minutes ago, winca\m said:

does Jn.3:7 say we or thee and does Mk.6:3 say Mary had children other than Jesus.......not at all at all at all - wincam 

 

Mt 1:25  And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Lu 2:7  And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
If Jesus was her firstborn she must have has other children.

[HappyChristian]

 "Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him." Besides her firstborn - Jesus - Mary had 4 other boys and at least two girls (sisters being plural indicates more than one). 

The next verse says: "But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house."  Jesus makes it clear that He understands they are referencing His brothers and sisters - kin, own house.  They could not be His brothers and sisters if they were not Mary's children because Joseph was not Jesus' father. 

In context, John 3:7 is clearly teaching that "ye" is talking about all men. "Ye" is a plural personal pronoun. "Ye must be born again." Plural form of "you", and in this context meaning mankind.

[No Nicolaitans]

In addition to Mark 6:3...

The Lord Jesus' brothers...

Matthew 13:55, John 2:12, John 7:3, John 7:5, and John 7:10

The Lord Jesus' sisters...

Matthew 13:56

1 hour ago, winca\m said:

does Jn.3:7 say we or thee

No, but it does say ye. Ye must be born again. I've already agreed with you twice. What seems to be the problem friend? 

[winca\m]

On ‎12‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 0:24 AM, No Nicolaitans said:

In addition to Mark 6:3...

The Lord Jesus' brothers...

Matthew 13:55, John 2:12, John 7:3, John 7:5, and John 7:10

The Lord Jesus' sisters...

Matthew 13:56

No, but it does say ye. Ye must be born again. I've already agreed with you twice. What seems to be the problem friend? 

 

[winca\m]

none ofwhat you quoted says Mary had children other than Jesus - this is in your imagination but not in the bible - re being born again Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus about Jews and other non Christians - wincam

[Jim_Alaska]

wincam, are you here only to argue? Everything you have posted is an argument against the plain teaching and grammar structure of Scripture. You have been shown numerous times what the bible plainly says and yet you continue to assert that the bible doesn't say what is plain to others.

This is a place of fellowship, not a place to air pet theories and posts deliberately designed to argue nonsense. In this vein I would direct you to the forum guidelines, one of which states plainly:

"9) We will not allow the following
Online Baptist is a place for fellowship, disagreements you may have with others should not be handled here.
Members that come just to argue doctrine instead of fellowship."

If you have anything uplifting and edifying to post, we would welcome what you have to offer.

[No Nicolaitans]

1 hour ago, winca\m said:

none ofwhat you quoted says Mary had children other than Jesus - this is in your imagination but not in the bible - re being born again Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus about Jews and other non Christians - wincam

Since the Bible clearly and plainly states that the Lord Jesus Christ had both brothers and sisters, then Mary had other children. Does this verse help? 

Galatians 1:19 - But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

The Lord was speaking to Nicodemus about Nicodemus himself, and as you said...Jews, and other non-Christians. You nailed it! It may benefit you to look up what the word "ye" means, because though you've actually given an excellent definition, I don't think you meant what you said. Have a nice day friend.