Making America Great Again

[Alan]

11 hours ago, John Young said:

 

This is my "vise" president!   Amen?
 

vise

vīs/

noun

noun: vice; plural noun: vices; noun: vise; plural noun: vises

1. a metal tool with movable jaws that are used to hold an object firmly in place while work is done on it, typically attached to a workbench.

Origin

Brethren,

John Young clearly knows the difference between 'vice' and 'vise.' John Young used the words, 'tongue in cheek.'

Quite frankly, in the case of Vice-President Mike Pence, I prefer the word "vise." The definition of "vise" fits Vice-President Pence.

God bless!

Alan

[Alan]

One of the ways President Trump is starting to make America Great again is he brought back the bust of Winston Churchill to the Oval Office.

Winston Churchill, former Prime Minister of England, is a good role model for leaders.  And, President Trump is publicly showing his respect for our friends in England. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/21/trump-returns-churchill-bust-to-oval-office.html

 

[Invicta]

22 hours ago, Alan said:

Brethren,

John Young clearly knows the difference between 'vice' and 'vise.' John Young used the words, 'tongue in cheek.'

Quite frankly, in the case of Vice-President Mike Pence, I prefer the word "vise." The definition of "vise" fits Vice-President Pence.

God bless!

Alan

I was not suggesting that John Young had got it wrong, I was saying that US and GB spelling of the word are different'  I just checked my Funk & Wagnell's dictionary.  It says vice same as vise, I looked in my oxford English dictionary and it gave vice  tool with movable jaws that are used to hold an object firmly.  It did not list vise but visé = visa

Just as a matter of interest, I consulted my Harrap French/English visual dictionary. It gives variations between American and British English, and European and Quebec French.   It gives British English in italics, French in blue and Quebecoise in italics. (Italics when they differ.)     It shows a diagram of and engineers vice and gives vise vice  étau

Someone once said we are two nations divided by a common language.

For instance I believe you have a driving licence, but you spell it differently.

[Alan]

Thank you.

[Saved41199]

2 days in and the man is trying to change facts and distort truth. Sorry, he is under the rule of the prince of this world. 

Unfortunately, he will deceive many...keep your eyes and ears open. Be wise as the serpent and gentle as the dove. 

[fastjav390]

9 minutes ago, Saved41199 said:

2 days in and the man is trying to change facts and distort truth. Sorry, he is under the rule of the prince of this world. 

Unfortunately, he will deceive many...keep your eyes and ears open. Be wise as the serpent and gentle as the dove. 

He's "under the rule of the prince of this world" yet still ordained of God. If he wasn't he wouldn't be where he's at now. Unless you have a saved pastor as POTUS I guess that would be the case but you will never see that. In fact, you shouldn't because a pastor giving up his pulpit for politics doesn't seem right to me.

I think it is kind of petty arguing about who had the most people at their inauguration. The truth is is that conservatives or middle America don't tend to go out to political events as liberals.  This would explain the difference in crowd sizes. That and the fact that the nation is now more divided than when Obama took office in 2009.

[Saved41199]

3 minutes ago, fastjav390 said:

He's "under the rule of the prince of this world" yet still ordained of God. If he wasn't he wouldn't be where he's at now. Unless you have a saved pastor as POTUS I guess that would be the case but you will never see that. In fact, you shouldn't because a pastor giving up his pulpit for politics doesn't seem right to me.

I think it is kind of petty arguing about who had the most people at their inauguration. The truth is is that conservatives or middle America don't tend to go out to political events as liberals.  This would explain the difference in crowd sizes. That and the fact that the nation is now more divided than when Obama took office in 2009.

It's not the arguing, it's the lying. Its the attempt to twist things to present lies as truth and truth as lies. I'd have more respect for the man if he had given a coherent view of things and carried that on. There is something about him that disturbs me down to my soul. I cannot describe it. The last time I felt that way, I found out I was right about who that person really was. As a result, I will be in prayer for my country and for the world. I fear he has blinded far too many people. I pray that my brothers and sisters in Christ keep their eyes open and do not fall into this man's string of deceptions. 

[fastjav390]

2 minutes ago, Saved41199 said:

It's not the arguing, it's the lying. Its the attempt to twist things to present lies as truth and truth as lies. I'd have more respect for the man if he had given a coherent view of things and carried that on. There is something about him that disturbs me down to my soul. I cannot describe it. The last time I felt that way, I found out I was right about who that person really was. As a result, I will be in prayer for my country and for the world. I fear he has blinded far too many people. I pray that my brothers and sisters in Christ keep their eyes open and do not fall into this man's string of deceptions. 

Maybe. Time will tell. We could be at a period in American history now that it wouldn't matter who was voted into office because the writing is on the wall.

[Alan]

On ‎2016‎年‎8‎月‎12‎日 at 10:59 AM, Alan said:

Nor do I want to get in a verbal heated discussion over this matter with my friends.

Brethren,

I wrote the above admonition on August 12, 2016 for a reason. I would prefer that  we not get in a heated discussion.

Thanks!

Alan

Edited January 23, 2017 by Alan
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[Invicta]

20 hours ago, Alan said:

Thank you.

No probs, thank you.

[Genevanpreacher]

No one is concerned that Trump was sworn in with two Bibles - a Revised Standard Version, on top of Lincolns Bible (https://www.wdl.org/en/item/11358/view/1/9/) which was an 1853 KJB?

Edited January 23, 2017 by Genevanpreacher

[Alan]

On ‎2016‎年‎8‎月‎10‎日 at 9:23 PM, Alan said:

We are voting for the President of the United States, a public office, and not a church office. The qualifications for a man in the ministry is not the qualifications of a man seeking public office. Nor should Christians be limited to only to vote for dedicated Christians. When a man takes up arms and fights for his country he is fighting for the Constitution and for the government to follow the Constitution; not the qualifications for a church office. God gave the government to responsibility to defend (physically), the citizens. It is the responsibility of the man of God, the church, to stand up and defend the spiritual (doctrines), of the scriptures. I am not voting for a pastor

Genevanpreacher,

If I was looking to join the church that President Donald Trump was pastoring than I would find him using a non-KJV bible a great concern. But, as my commander-in-chief I am not going to make it an issue.

When I fought for my country in the Vietnam War, and everyone else who has been in a combat situation fought for our country, I was more concerned that my officers over me knew their business in making war and not if they were qualified to be the pastor of the church I attended.

Brethren,

I started this thread with the sole intention of discovering how Donald Trump would make our country great again economically, politically, morally, and whether or not he would abide by the Constitution of the United States in leading our country in times of peace and war.

Nor did I start this thread to use as a sounding board to downgrade, browbeat, and for others to try and nick pick the faults of Donald Trump as President. For those brethren who want to continue to find fault with everything President Trump does, belittle him, cause disrespect to him and his policies, than please start you own thread. 

Furthermore, in his first few days in office so far, I think President Donald Trump has done great and that his policies are going to benefit the citizens of the United States of America. I firmly believe that the liberals, communists, wackos, Hillary and her crowd of extremeist feminists, and the liberal press are lying about President Trump and are trying to destroy his effectiveness as the President of the Unites States of America.

Please take careful note. If you heard his inaguration speech it was clearly stated that he is the President of the United States of America and he will perform his duties as President for the benefit of America and not of the world. And, he will take away the destructive policies of Obama and the liberal policies he put in place.

Brethren, unless you can say something positive about President Trump, or give honest, I repeat, honest, constructive criticism, please leave this thread and express your negative and destructive criticisms of President Trump somewhere else.

Alan

Edited January 24, 2017 by Alan
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[Jim_Alaska]

Bro. Alan is making a reasonable request since this thread was started by him. If someone would like to take up his suggestion to start a separate thread I would ask that you please do it in the "Lounge".

I found this article on the Electoral College this morning and thought it might add some positive information regarding the election process that so many liberals have criticized.

Here are the facts:

Trump won the popular vote in 31 states to her 19 and DC. 62% to her 38%.

Trump led in the total popular vote for all states except California.

Hillary won California 5,860,714 to Trump’s 3,151,821. 61.6% to 33.1% exclusive of the other candidates. Thus California gave Hillary the popular vote for all states as claimed by the Democrats and their media stooges.

But deduct her California vote from her national vote leaving her with 54,978,783, and deduct Trump’s California vote from his national total, leaving him with 57,113.976, he wins in a landslide in the other 49 states, 51.3% to her 48.7%.

So, in effect, Hillary was elected president of California and Trump was elected president of the rest of the country by a substantial margin.

This exemplifies the wisdom of the Electoral College, to prevent the vote of any one populace state from overriding the vote of the others. Trump’s Campaign Manager, Kellyanne Conway, whose expertise is polling, saw this early on and devised her strategy of “pathways to the White House.”

This meant ignoring California with its huge Democrat majority and going after the states that would give him the necessary electoral votes to win, FL, NC, MI, PA, OH, and WI.

At its lowest point since the civil war! Could this mean the end of the Democrat Party? When the afternoon of January 20, 2017 arrives, the Republican Party will have:

1) The Presidency.
2) A majority of the House of Representatives.
3) A majority of the Senate.
4) Almost two-thirds of all the governorships.
5) Total control of the statehouses in almost two-thirds of all the states.

And in the near future, Republicans will be able to add:
6) A majority of the Supreme Court. The above has never happened before in American history.

Think about that and let it sink in for a moment. And it's all because of one reason: Barack Obama's forcing his extreme far-left agenda on an unwilling country by executive orders, left wing judges, and obsequious bureaucrats. It's important to pass this on. With the demand that we do away with the Electoral College and take the popular vote being pushed by the media, etc, all Americans need to know that the Electoral College is working exactly as our Founding Fathers intended.

 

[Genevanpreacher]

I liked his speach.

I thought it a little too 'promising', but as a speach, (that sounded like he himself wrote), I thought it was refreshing.

The only reason I brought up the Bible issue is I figured some here might think that was important.

I agree with Alan.

But I really thought that would be a hang-up for such a KJB minded set of people as most on this site.

Guess it's not as important 'which Bible' is used when it comes to leaders of our nation?

I am surprised.

But let me state - I voted for a business leader - Trump, and a Christian leader - Pence. 

They are the team the Lord has for us - whether for our good or not.

And I do trust the Lord.

Edited January 24, 2017 by Genevanpreacher

[No Nicolaitans]

5 minutes ago, Genevanpreacher said:

I liked his speach.

I thought it a little too 'promising', but as a speach, (that sounded like he himself wrote), I thought it was refreshing.

The only reason I brought up the Bible issue is I figured some here might think that was important.

I agree with Alan.

But I really thought that would be a hang-up for such a KJB minded set of people as most on this site.

Guess it's not as important 'which Bible' is used when it comes to leaders of our nation?

I am surprised.

My view is...

We are dealing with a secular office. In my opinion, gone are the days when placing one's hand on the Bible meant something to the majority of Americans. It might mean something "in the moment", but the moment is soon forgotten. I was unaware of the two-B(b)ibles issue to be honest. However, I see no difference in that and the Muslim who was sworn into some office a year (or two or three years) ago with their hand on a Koran (sorry...don't remember the details).

I just want him to do his job, do it to the best of his ability, and do it in accordance with the Constitution of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and the original vision of America. If he does that, he will far surpass the last eight years of the Socialist/Communist/Marxist takeover that has enveloped this nation...of which, this nation willingly and gladly accepted it. They didn't just accept it...they wanted it. No wonder the liberals are in a tizzy.

As Obama apologized to the Muslims, let me apologize for that last statement...if that offended anyone, then...

GET A BACKBONE AND BUCK IT UP!