How real is your Christian faith ?

[Truthseeking]

Hmmm ......... :puzzled:

[Guest Guest]

It's not about labels and big shots.
Who the odd ball when it's time to agree with God on the controversial bible issues?

Summary on the bible talk before :

Hebrews 4 Sabbath teaching today

Romans 7:2-3 Divorce & Remarriage To Others

Mark 16:16 Water Baptism To Go To Heaven
John 3:5

1 Peter 3:3 Hell Message on Jewelry, Worldly Hygiene & Costly Array
2 Timothy 2:9-14

2 Timothy 2:9-14 Hell Message on Women Preachers & Women Pastors
1 Corinthians 14:34-35


Who agree with God so we can obey :

Amos 3:3
Psalms 133:1
2 Corinthians 6:14-17


Yes the unity of God comes with a heavy price:

(1) Comes with grammar fanatics avoiding the meat and potato issues of the bible.
(2) Comes with being called a bully
(3) Comes with being called a judgmental person
(4) Comes with being called a negative person

God calling for unity so it's my business to know what you are by testing you out with the
controversial bible issues as stated above.
No unity in disagreements or disagreeing with God in the book anywhere.
Never about a philosophical disagreement with man ever.

Philosophical moralism is the largest religion that's dangerous and not discerned for what it is.
Bible moralism will sometime conflict the philsophical moralism of man .
Bible moralism will sometime confilict the wisdom of man.
Who burying their philosophical moralism that's in conflict with the bible moralism of God?

Wish I know a preacher doing a wedding without jewelry and costly array only.
Holiness in the bible is waived off if you mess with 1 Peter 3:3!!!

Who not waiving off Jesus for the wisdom and moralism of man only ?
Who hungry for an equal yoke with real bible believers?
Who not waiting on a big shot to take a stand on Amos 3:3 ?
Who live and die to live out Amos 3:3 ?
Who doing a wedding without jewelry and costly array?
Who doing an anniversary every year without jewelry and costly array?
Who simply agreeing with God in practice if we mess with 1 Peter 3:3 ?

Who hear God speaking in the book here ?
Who on God's side with the book here?

[Guest Guest]

Hi tonytony. Are you criticizing the believer or the Bible? I am just wondering. God bless. :smile

[kevinmiller]

Right... :huh:

[Marcus2Israel]

Right...

Just smile and wave Kevin.

[kevinmiller]

Just smile and wave Kevin.

lol :lol

[deafnva77]

:wave:

[heartstrings]

It's not about labels and big shots.
Who the odd ball when it's time to agree with God on the controversial bible issues?

Summary on the bible talk before :

Hebrews 4 Sabbath teaching today

Romans 7:2-3 Divorce & Remarriage To Others

Mark 16:16 Water Baptism To Go To Heaven
John 3:5

Salvation is not by works....and Water baptism is something you DO....it is a work. The only way to Heaven is to repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ and that takes place in your heart; this is not a work.

1 Peter 3:3 Hell Message on Jewelry, Worldly Hygiene & Costly Array
2 Timothy 2:9-14

I don't know what you mean here, but wearing jewelry or costly array will not send a person to Hell.

2 Timothy 2:9-14 Hell Message on Women Preachers & Women Pastors
1 Corinthians 14:34-35

Neither will being a woman preacher.

Who agree with God so we can obey :

Amos 3:3
Psalms 133:1
2 Corinthians 6:14-17

The only way to have Christian unity is to first be a Christian. And you are not a real Christian if you are trusting in works for salvation. And the reason REAL born again beleivers have no unity is because we are living for self and not submitted to God.

If you have to DO something to be saved, you are in effect, trusting in your SELF for salvation and your faith is not real. But if you have true faith, you will love God and will want to live for Jesus.

[John81]

The only way to have Christian unity is to first be a Christian. And you are not a real Christian if you are trusting in works for salvation. And the reason REAL born again beleivers have no unity is because we are living for self and not submitted to God.

If you have to DO something to be saved, you are in effect, trusting in your SELF for salvation and your faith is not real. But if you have true faith, you will love God and will want to live for Jesus.

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[Guest Guest]

Hi tonytony. Are you criticizing the believer or the Bible? I am just wondering. God bless. :smile

It's not about criticism it's about unity with people that make all the bible their moralism for living.
Many philosophical moralist are some of the nicest people but that's not a Christian.
A Christian is a total bible moralist with all the bible correctly.
Christians bury their philosophical beliefs if they are exalted over any of the righteousness of God.
The righteousness of God is not just the cross of Jesus only.
The righteousness of God is not just love thy neighbor as thou love thy self only.
If you only burying your cigarette habit unbelievers do that all the time.
If you going through tribulation only unbelievers do that all the time.
If you taken your jewelry and costly array off then you operating in the righteousness of God says Peter in 1 Peter 3:3.
Unbelievers refuse to do this.
They call God a philosophical legalist losing his mind in 1 Peter 3:3.
No wonder Paul had to call man a lier and state God is not a lier only.
Coming from Romans 3:3-4.
Unity is not Godly until we find total bible moralist.
Otherwise we carnal and religious only.
Coming from Romans 8:6.
Have to be in people's business to find out if Godly unity is there.
Coming from Amos 3:3 if Amos messing with you.
If he not then read about your father in John 8:44.

[HappyChristian]

And let's not forget compassion...

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It's not about criticism it's about unity with people that make all the bible their moralism for living.
Many philosophical moralist are some of the nicest people but that's not a Christian.
A Christian is a total bible moralist with all the bible correctly.
Christians bury their philosophical beliefs if they are exalted over any of the righteousness of God.
The righteousness of God is not just the cross of Jesus only.
The righteousness of God is not just love thy neighbor as thou love thy self only.
If you only burying your cigarette habit unbelievers do that all the time.
If you going through tribulation only unbelievers do that all the time.
If you taken your jewelry and costly array off then you operating in the righteousness of God says Peter in 1 Peter 3:3.
Unbelievers refuse to do this.
They call God a philosophical legalist losing his mind in 1 Peter 3:3.
No wonder Paul had to call man a lier and state God is not a lier only.
Coming from Romans 3:3-4.
Unity is not Godly until we find total bible moralist.
Otherwise we carnal and religious only.
Coming from Romans 8:6.
Have to be in people's business to find out if Godly unity is there.
Coming from Amos 3:3 if Amos messing with you.
If he not then read about your father in John 8:44.

Tonytony,
The Righteousness of God is revealed in Christ's work on Calvary
And you get that righteousness only through faith in Him alone.
Romans 1:16-17
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Also read 2 Corinthians 5:21 Romans 3:21-31
It doesn't make any difference whether you wear a simple wedding band or the crown jewels; that has no bearing on a person's righteousness. You can take all of your jewelry off if you want to, wear rags and still go to Hell. Any and ALL righteousness that we possess is ONLY in and from the Lord Jesus Christ and his work on Calvary. If you trust in anything you DO...that is not faith.
You must put your faith in Jesus alone.

[HappyChristian]

The Righteousness of God is revealed in Christ's work on Calvary
And you get that righteousness only through faith in Him alone.
Romans 1:16-17
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Also read 2 Corinthians 5:21 Romans 3:21-31
It doesn't make any difference whether you wear a simple wedding band or the crown jewels; that has no bearing on a person's righteousness. You can take all of your jewelry off if you want to, wear rags and still go to Hell. Any and ALL righteousness that we possess is ONLY in and from the Lord Jesus Christ and his work on Calvary. If you trust in anything you DO...that is not faith.
You must put your faith in Jesus alone.

:goodpost:

[Guest Guest]

A double on that one...heartstrings!!

tonytony...in the Epistle of Ephesians--- the Apostle Paul talks to the Ephesians (Church of Ephesus) about "unity." Chapter 4 of the KJV is a great chapter on "unity." Here is just a couple of verses of that Epistle.

Ephesians 4:13-17...13 Till we all come in unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight (tricks) of men, and cunning craftiness (cleverness), whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying (building up) of itself in love. 17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, 18 Having the understanding darkened, bing alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: KJV 1611 AV. "Truth in Love"

[John81]

Many unbelievers don't wear jewelry or costly array. Consider the Amish, Muslims, Buddhist monks, etc. That has nothing to do with the righteousness of God.