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[irishman]

I find it somewhat frustrating that whenever anyone posts on this forum, even if it is a blessing to some, someone always seems to throw a damper on it!

[John81]

I find it somewhat frustrating that whenever anyone posts on this forum, even if it is a blessing to some, someone always seems to throw a damper on it!

What a negative post! I can't believe you would say such a thing!! If I had a damper to throw I would be throwing it now!!!

Most things in life have positive and negative aspects. The Ten Commandments are full of negatives but looked at inversely, there are positives. Thou shalt not lie=Thou shalt tell the truth.

When it comes down to it, everything we do, think and say should be in accord with Scripture. However, that requires that we know the Scripture and are willing to submit to the Scripture regardless of our upbringing, how we have always thought, what others say or teach, what is popular, what appeals to our flesh, etc.

The Bible is full of these things. Even Paul, while in prison, pointed out that some were preaching more strongly because they were bolder seeing him strong even in prison while at the same time there were those who didn't like Paul and were preaching stronger in an attempt to show Paul up. Rather than let that get him down, bother him or frustrate him, Paul chose to rejoice that Christ was being preached by so many!

[irishman]

What a negative post! I can't believe you would say such a thing!! If I had a damper to throw I would be throwing it now!!!

Most things in life have positive and negative aspects. The Ten Commandments are full of negatives but looked at inversely, there are positives. Thou shalt not lie=Thou shalt tell the truth.

When it comes down to it, everything we do, think and say should be in accord with Scripture. However, that requires that we know the Scripture and are willing to submit to the Scripture regardless of our upbringing, how we have always thought, what others say or teach, what is popular, what appeals to our flesh, etc.

The Bible is full of these things. Even Paul, while in prison, pointed out that some were preaching more strongly because they were bolder seeing him strong even in prison while at the same time there were those who didn't like Paul and were preaching stronger in an attempt to show Paul up. Rather than let that get him down, bother him or frustrate him, Paul chose to rejoice that Christ was being preached by so many!

John,
Are you blind? I do not mean unscripted posts, of course we are to shut them down immediately--I am referring to general posts. Some on here seem to think that they are the only ones who read the Bible! How many times have you seen the words "read your Bible" emphasized when combatting another's post.

Evading the reality of a situation does not change it; failure to admit it condones the guilt of doing so. i stand on the premise that there are many who are always trying to "point out the other side" of truths, A recent example was a post on wine. Though a scriptural post, it got a lot of contrary comments by self made "scholars" who are of the crowd that shouts "read your Bible". Hopefully we have all read the Bible from cover to cover many times, or maybe we have no business posting on scripture.; the difference is personal application and interpretation. Could it be that Perhaps I hit a sore spot with you John? Edited May 26, 2011 by irishman

[Wilchbla]

How many times have you seen the words "read your Bible" emphasized when combatting another's post.

I just recently has someone tell me I should try reading Hebrews sometime even though I've read it at least 30 times already.

[John81]

John,
Are you blind? I do not mean unscripted posts, of course we are to shut them down immediately--I am referring to general posts. Some on here seem to think that they are the only ones who read the Bible! How many times have you seen the words "read your Bible" emphasized when combatting another's post.

Evading the reality of a situation does not change it; failure to admit it condones the guilt of doing so. i stand on the premise that there are many who are always trying to "point out the other side" of truths, A recent example was a post on wine. Though a scriptural post, it got a lot of contrary comments by self made "scholars" who are of the crowd that shouts "read your Bible". Hopefully we have all read the Bible from cover to cover many times, or maybe we have no business posting on scripture.; the difference is personal application and interpretation. Could it be that Perhaps I hit a sore spot with you John?

Sorry you seem so testy on this. Currently I have no "sore spot" other than a painful left wrist. I'm sorry I'm unable to fully comprehend what it is you are trying to say.

There is a scriptural command or principle for everything in life so we should all "read the Bible" to search these out. There are times when some won't accept Scripture on all matters even when, such as the case with the wine issue, several verses have been put forth giving clear reasons why no Christian should drink alcohol. Rather than accept Scripture, some will ignore or try to explain them away and find side issues to address. What more can we do, if we wish to follow Christ, than refer back to Scripture?

We should all be willing to look to Scripture with an open heart to see if our view or anothers is the actual biblical view. For instance, we have had discussions here on OB regarding end-time views, the Rapture, Second Coming of Christ and such. I've been a Christian nearly 30 years and have read what the Bible says on these matters more times than I could even begin to count. Even so, I looked up references folks posted in support of their view and in rebuttal to others. Reading and studying the verses yet again. I've done the same in regard to many topics we have discussed here, from eternal security to Calvinism to pants on women.

The point being, we should always want to refer back to Scripture and accept it as is. In most cases there is not a matter of "personal application and interpretation" at hand, but rather a matter of whether one is willing, or not, to actually accept what Scripture says. One thing which used to set IFBs apart, indeed used to set most Baptists apart, was the belief that the Bible spoke clearly to the issues of life. The idea that there was some "personal application and interpretation" was not known or accepted but gained much ground in the liberal churches which applied this as "maybe it's sin for you but not for me".

[JerryNumbers]

When walking on this earth in the flesh, did peace follow Jesus everywhere He went, or was it controversy that followed Him? When Jesus spoke and taught, did everything negative disappear? Them it might be that each of us would like for everyone to agree with us on ever issue, and being they don't, we see that as being negative.

And I might mentioned one subject for instants that seems to bother many, its anything negative said towards this country, in fact its when the truth is spoken about this country. As for me, I'm not going to call something great, good, when I know its neither.

When it comes to this country even many Christians gives it a free pass, them seems to brand anyone that brings up the wrongs it has done, the many bad things its done, that its no actually are great country, as not being a good American, a patriot, even giving a hint that person cannot even be a good Christian.

That said, many measure this country against other countries, not the Word. When its measured against other countries with prejudices we Americans hold, it becomes a great country. Yet when we measure this country against God's Word, it fails miserably, comes short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23.

2Co 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

Even when we measure this country, we need to measure it against God's Word, not other countries, them be honest about the measurement.

[irishman]

When walking on this earth in the flesh, did peace follow Jesus everywhere He went, or was it controversy that followed Him? When Jesus spoke and taught, did everything negative disappear? Them it might be that each of us would like for everyone to agree with us on ever issue, and being they don't, we see that as being negative.

And I might mentioned one subject for instants that seems to bother many, its anything negative said towards this country, in fact its when the truth is spoken about this country. As for me, I'm not going to call something great, good, when I know its neither.

When it comes to this country even many Christians gives it a free pass, them seems to brand anyone that brings up the wrongs it has done, the many bad things its done, that its no actually are great country, as not being a good American, a patriot, even giving a hint that person cannot even be a good Christian.

That said, many measure this country against other countries, not the Word. When its measured against other countries with prejudices we Americans hold, it becomes a great country. Yet when we measure this country against God's Word, it fails miserably, comes short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23.

2Co 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

Even when we measure this country, we need to measure it against God's Word, not other countries, them be honest about the measurement.

Jerrynumbers
I understand what you are saying, "there is none good, no not one", and every country is made up of people, which is why there is none good, but comparatively, America is #1. (I speak in a worldly sense. Have you ever done so?) I do not say that anyone is any good as far as Christ is concerned, but I still live my country where the Lord chose to put me, and I love the God that we once exalted as the True and only God.

[John81]

I just recently has someone tell me I should try reading Hebrews sometime even though I've read it at least 30 times already.

I've probably read it around that many times too. Even so, I read Hebrews again earlier this year, and as the topic was going on here, I read it again.

Our Wednesday night Bible study covered Hebrews during the end of last year and beginning of this year.

Lord willing, I'll probably read Hebrews 2 or 3 more times this year

[brosmith]

I am not sure where this topic is going but I would like to add my 2 cents worth and I will use just one verse of scripture:

2 Peter 1:12 - "Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth."

Every once in a while all of us need to be reminded about certain truths even though we may be grounded in the word of God. There are those that will take the word of God to heart and make proper application to their lives. Then there are those that will use every means imaginable to prove (in their own minds) that "thus saith the Lord" doesn't always mean "thus saith the Lord."

[JerryNumbers]

Jerrynumbers
I understand what you are saying, "there is none good, no not one", and every country is made up of people, which is why there is none good, but comparatively, America is #1. (I speak in a worldly sense. Have you ever done so?) I do not say that anyone is any good as far as Christ is concerned, but I still live my country where the Lord chose to put me, and I love the God that we once exalted as the True and only God.

Heaven is my home, I can't feel that this is my home nor can I feel at home in it, I'm just sojourning here for a little while. All my love is in Heaven. Yet I will live out my life here doing that which God called me to do as best as I know how. Whatever I do, I try to do for the glory of Jesus, not this world, not this country, for it is all about Jesus.

[revivedbygrace]

I find it somewhat frustrating that whenever anyone posts on this forum, even if it is a blessing to some, someone always seems to throw a damper on it!

I think I know what you mean. We have to keep in mind though that sometimes it is very hard to convey what we mean and what is in our hearts in a post.
Even if when we do a good job of putting forth our thoughts and ideas there is no guarantee that others are going to get the point we are trying to make.
They will tend to focus on the portion that speaks most to them and let the rest fall by the wayside. Often as not this will be a minor point in the post.
They won't even get to the "meat" of it, and if they do it is often "flavored" by their preconceived notions.
Then you have those people that have to always be right and are adept at the scripture copy and paste arguing. Not realizing that a lot of times they
copy and paste right out of context.
And then sometimes people are just caught on a bad or off day and they don't mean a thing by it. It's just that everything they say and do comes out wrong.
( I have a lot of these LOL)

On my good days I don't let it bother me and don't take it personal. On my bad days this is much harder to do.

[John81]

I am not sure where this topic is going but I would like to add my 2 cents worth and I will use just one verse of scripture:

2 Peter 1:12 - "Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth."

Every once in a while all of us need to be reminded about certain truths even though we may be grounded in the word of God. There are those that will take the word of God to heart and make proper application to their lives. Then there are those that will use every means imaginable to prove (in their own minds) that "thus saith the Lord" doesn't always mean "thus saith the Lord."

:amen:

[Guest]

I find it somewhat frustrating that whenever anyone posts on this forum, even if it is a blessing to some, someone always seems to throw a damper on it!

Do you mean some comments seem to be void of the following? ...

Galatians 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

1 Thessalonians 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

Colossians 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Yes, I've noticed too and regrettably, guilty of the same.

[John81]

Do you mean some comments seem to be void of the following? ...

Galatians 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

1 Thessalonians 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

Colossians 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Yes, I've noticed too and regrettably, guilty of the same.

Often, when someone is trying to edify in love they get accused of all sorts of things. Sometimes when folks simply share what the Word says in order to be of help, they are attacked.

Much of it comes down to how one engages in discussions. Are we engaging in a discussion to see what the Word says and are we willing to abide by the Word whether it agrees with our beginning position or not? Or, are we engaging in a discussion to simply win, regardless of the Word?

Scripture tells us it's a matter of love to "reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine". Paul, out of love (not malice or an attempt to throw a damper on their party) confronted Peter to his face in public, rebuking and exhorting him. Peter, with a heart set to follow Christ, accepted Paul's rebuke and grew in Christ.

In Paul's episitles, and other books of the Bible, Christians are continually reminded to read the Word again and again. They were continually reminded to remember what the had already been taught, to continually look to the Word, to shine the light of truth where there was error, to separate from the wicked and those who teach false teachings, etc.

All of this is a matter of love.

[Alimantado]

What I find most unhelpful in discussions is when people make unsupported assertions, including about others; things like 'this person is twisting scripture' or 'this person is ignoring the plain meaning of scripture' or 'the Bible says X' without demonstrating such assertions. There are people on this forum who consistently make these sorts of comments, yet if you look back over their posts you will rarely see them backing up their own comments with scripture. Of course, an unsupported assertion can be perfectly true, but how useful is it in a discussion where we are supposed to be "seeing what the Word says", to quote John81? To give a parallel, would anyone support a Pastor who always preaching on the Bible but never quoting it, even if they happened to be correct most of the time?