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Can someone give me a good analysis of Ray Comfort's Evidence Bible which is a "Comfortable" King James Version. It doesn't seem to change the meaning like the NKJV does, but it has a lot of the "archaic" words updated. Some will dismiss it right away, some will say that Ray did a good jOB updating, but I want a real in-depth analysis to see how it measures up to the original KJV. So far, I haven't been able to find a good analysis anywhere on the web. I'm not allowed to post in the KJB forum, so I'm posting it here.

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I would like to know more about Ray Comfort, other than what Wikipedia has to offer. His publications seem extensive, although I never read any of his books.

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I can't give an in-depth review but from what I read from one of the Comfortable Bibles, I noticed no changes in text or meaning, just an updating of some words.

That said, I never read the entire Bible and for myself I much prefer the KJB as is. Odd as it sounds to some, I grasp the KJB as is better than anything updated.

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The Evidence Bible isn't a King James Bible...it is advertised as a KJV but according to the author of this 4 page PDF document, it isn't what it claims to be:

My link

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The purpose of this writing is not to affirm the original King James as a superior translation – which, in light of several other modern English translations available today, it is certainly not and is the subject of some controversy.

It seems the writer of the article is not a KJV supporter either. He's just opposed to Comfort calling his Bible translation KJV.
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Thanks guys. If anyone finds a good in-depth analysis though, or would do one, that would be great.


The Evidence Bible isn't a King James Bible...it is advertised as a KJV but according to the author of this 4 page PDF document, it isn't what it claims to be:

My link


That isn't really saying anything. The guy is just afraid that Ray might have made some mistakes because Ray doesn't have the credentials this guy would want him to. Then again, most of you guys here don't trust the guys with credentials anyway, since most of them don't back the KJV these days, so why would you take what this guys has to say? In the end, that article said absolutely nothing of the actual merit, or lack thereof, of the Comfort-able KJV.
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That isn't really saying anything. The guy is just afraid that Ray might have made some mistakes because Ray doesn't have the credentials this guy would want him to. Then again, most of you guys here don't trust the guys with credentials anyway, since most of them don't back the KJV these days, so why would you take what this guys has to say? In the end, that article said absolutely nothing of the actual merit, or lack thereof, of the Comfort-able KJV.


It's not a matter of whether or not a man has "credentials" or not, if the KJB is the word of God and he rejects the word of God, then Bible believers typically have better things to do than read his stuff, credentials or not.
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It's not a matter of whether or not a man has "credentials" or not, if the KJB is the word of God and he rejects the word of God, then Bible believers typically have better things to do than read his stuff, credentials or not.


I agree, which is why I don't accept that person's arguments who reviewed only Ray's lack of credentials instead of actually reviewing the text in his Bible. I want someone to do a thorough review of that text since I usually read the Evidence Bible rather than my paperback KJV which I gave to my sister.

BTW, off topic: Where can I get a KJV Bible similar in format to this ESV Bible here? http://www.crossway.org/product/9781581346794
Here's how it looks on the inside as well: http://www.crossway.org/assets/bibles/esv.personal.size.reference.sample.pdf

The features I'm looking for are the small size, cross-references, words of Christ in black (I find red-letter editions distracting), and genuine leather (bonded leather wears out too quickly for me).
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Need to watch out for those who call something that it is not.

If you call a KJB a KJB, yet its been rewritten, its not a KJB.


Ray Comfort's THE EVIDENCE BIBLE Exposed!




I know nothing about the man, yet if he has to rewrite the KJB and call it a KJB, that in itself tells me all I need to know, and I know with the KJB I've got Gods true written word to man, with his bible, I would not know that.

Amazing at the rabbit trails many will run off on trying to gain some new inside knowledge, and how they will try and drag others with them. Its amazing, although its been happening all through the ages of men. There will always be a few that will not be drawn aside, those who be among that number will be surely blessed with blessing in heavenly places.

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Need to watch out for those who call something that it is not.

If you call a KJB a KJB, yet its been rewritten, its not a KJB.


Ray Comfort's THE EVIDENCE BIBLE Exposed!




I know nothing about the man, yet if he has to rewrite the KJB and call it a KJB, that in itself tells me all I need to know, and I know with the KJB I've got Gods true written word to man, with his bible, I would not know that.

Amazing at the rabbit trails many will run off on trying to gain some new inside knowledge, and how they will try and drag others with them. Its amazing, although its been happening all through the ages of men. There will always be a few that will not be drawn aside, those who be among that number will be surely blessed with blessing in heavenly places.


I'm not sure who the author of that review is but I'd check anything he says directly because some of what I'm reading there doesn't seem to add up.

I've read one book by MacArthur and it deals with Lordship Salvation. In that book he declares that what many call Lordship Salvation isn't true and that he rejects any who hold to such views. What he said about Lordship Salvation was that one can't have Christ as Saviour without also having Christ as Lord. He said if one is saved their life will show this because they will seek to follow Christ and OBey His Word; which means Jesus is their Lord.

Other than that, I know exceedingly little about MacArthur.
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All that article does is attack Lordship Salvation. Lordship Salvation doesn't mean that you must forsake all your sins in order to be saved, but that you will forsake your sins (you won't be sinless, but won't be living in sin) if you are saved. That is Biblical teaching. That is off topic though. That article only looks at one text, which really isn't as bad as they make it out to be. They don't address most of the actual text, but mostly just the commentaries. Are there no reviews which actually take apart the text and show if there really are any errors in it?

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All that article does is attack Lordship Salvation. Lordship Salvation doesn't mean that you must forsake all your sins in order to be saved, but that you will forsake your sins (you won't be sinless, but won't be living in sin) if you are saved. That is Biblical teaching. That is off topic though. That article only looks at one text, which really isn't as bad as they make it out to be. They don't address most of the actual text, but mostly just the commentaries. Are there no reviews which actually take apart the text and show if there really are any errors in it?


I am with you there anime. It looks more like a witch hunt on false pretenses. I am glad you have asked the question about the Evidence Bible because I too own one. I like to read it every once in awhile instead of my KJV.
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I'm not sure who the author of that review is but I'd check anything he says directly because some of what I'm reading there doesn't seem to add up.

I've read one book by MacArthur and it deals with Lordship Salvation. In that book he declares that what many call Lordship Salvation isn't true and that he rejects any who hold to such views. What he said about Lordship Salvation was that one can't have Christ as Saviour without also having Christ as Lord. He said if one is saved their life will show this because they will seek to follow Christ and OBey His Word; which means Jesus is their Lord.

Other than that, I know exceedingly little about MacArthur.


Rewriting the KJB ought to be enough for anyone to leave him alone, yet I understand there be many that are always looking for a better version, but hey, this is KJV Bible site, why is someone asking about a version that is not a KJB on here?

Many do not understand what Lordship Salvations is, maybe this will help.

MacArthur, He is one who holds to that Calvinism doctrine that's not found in the Bible, so no, him pointing him out is a plus for him.

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