You're Confederate ... But Don't Know It?

[John81]

You're Confederate ... But Don't Know It?

by Charley Reese





Most of the political problems in this country won't be settled until more folks realize the South was right.

I know that goes against the P.C. edicts, but the fact is that on the subject of the constitutional republic, the Confederate leaders were right and the Northern Republicans were wrong.

Many people today even argue the Confederate positions without realizing it.

For example, if you argue for strict construction of the Constitution, you are arguing the Confederate position; when you oppose pork-barrel spending, you are arguing the Confederate position; and when you oppose protective tariffs, you are arguing the Confederate position. But that's not all.

When you argue for the Bill of Rights, you are arguing the Confederate position, and when you
argue that the Constitution limits the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, you are arguing the Confederate position.

One of the things that gets lost when you adopt the politically correct oversimplification that the War Between the States was a Civil War all about slavery is a whole treasure load of American political history.

It was not a civil war. A civil war is when two or more factions contend for control of one government. At no time did the South intend or attempt to overthrow the government of the United States. The Southern states simply withdrew from what they correctly viewed as a voluntary union. They formed their own union and adopted their own constitution.

The U.S. government remained intact. There were just fewer states, but everything else remained as exactly as it was. You can be sure that, with as much bitterness and hatred of the South that
there was in the North, the Northerners would have tried Confederates for treason if there had been any grounds. There weren't, and the South's worst enemy knew that.

Abraham Lincoln's invasion of the South was entirely without any constitutional authority. And it's as plain as an elephant in a tea party that Lincoln did not seek to preserve the Union to end slavery. All you have to do is read his first inaugural address. What Lincoln didn't want to lose was tax revenue generated by the South.

As Northern states gained a majority in both houses, they began to use the South as a cash cow. Here's how it worked: Most Southerners who exported cotton bartered the cotton in Europe for goods. When the protective tariffs were imposed, that meant Southerners had to pay them. To make matters worse, the North would then use the revenue for pork-barrel projects in its states. The South was faced with either paying
high tariffs and receiving no benefits from the revenue or buying artificially high-priced Northern goods.

Southerners opposed pork-barrel spending. Their correct view was that, because the federal government was merely the agent of all the states, whatever money it spent should be of equal benefit. Their position on public lands was that they belonged to all the people and the federal government had no authority to give the lands away to private interests.

Northerners had announced they would not be bound by the Constitution. What you had was the rise of modern nationalism fighting the original republic founded by the American Revolution.

So, regardless of where you were born, you may be a Southerner philosophically.

[IM4given]

:goodpost: :amen:

[Marcus2Israel]

:amen:

I really wish more people would see the truth of the civil war. Lincoln wasn't so great.

[Guest Guest]

I really wish more people would see the truth of the civil war. Lincoln wasn't so great.

Indeed. The Civil War was not, as most people probably now think, about slavery.
There are many misconceptions around that time in history amongst America's citizens.
God bless,
Crushmaster.

[PreacherE]

by Charley Reese Most of the political problems in this country won't be settled until more folks realize the South was right. I know that goes against the P.C. edicts, but the fact is that on the subject of the constitutional republic, the Confederate leaders were right and the Northern Republicans were wrong. Many people today even argue the Confederate positions without realizing it. For example, if you argue for strict construction of the Constitution, you are arguing the Confederate position; when you oppose pork-barrel spending, you are arguing the Confederate position; and when you oppose protective tariffs, you are arguing the Confederate position. But that's not all. When you argue for the Bill of Rights, you are arguing the Confederate position, and when you argue that the Constitution limits the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, you are arguing the Confederate position. One of the things that gets lost when you adopt the politically correct oversimplification that the War Between the States was a Civil War all about slavery is a whole treasure load of American political history. It was not a civil war. A civil war is when two or more factions contend for control of one government. At no time did the South intend or attempt to overthrow the government of the United States. The Southern states simply withdrew from what they correctly viewed as a voluntary union. They formed their own union and adopted their own constitution. The U.S. government remained intact. There were just fewer states, but everything else remained as exactly as it was. You can be sure that, with as much bitterness and hatred of the South that there was in the North, the Northerners would have tried Confederates for treason if there had been any grounds. There weren't, and the South's worst enemy knew that. Abraham Lincoln's invasion of the South was entirely without any constitutional authority. And it's as plain as an elephant in a tea party that Lincoln did not seek to preserve the Union to end slavery. All you have to do is read his first inaugural address. What Lincoln didn't want to lose was tax revenue generated by the South. As Northern states gained a majority in both houses, they began to use the South as a cash cow. Here's how it worked: Most Southerners who exported cotton bartered the cotton in Europe for goods. When the protective tariffs were imposed, that meant Southerners had to pay them. To make matters worse, the North would then use the revenue for pork-barrel projects in its states. The South was faced with either paying high tariffs and receiving no benefits from the revenue or buying artificially high-priced Northern goods. Southerners opposed pork-barrel spending. Their correct view was that, because the federal government was merely the agent of all the states, whatever money it spent should be of equal benefit. Their position on public lands was that they belonged to all the people and the federal government had no authority to give the lands away to private interests. Northerners had announced they would not be bound by the Constitution. What you had was the rise of modern nationalism fighting the original republic founded by the American Revolution. So, regardless of where you were born, you may be a Southerner philosophically.

You're Confederate ... But Don't Know It?

:goodpost:

[deafnva77]

Slavery did have something to do with civil war. I mean look at gay marriages today.. Right now we have the state deciding who can marry or not.. but we are one step closer to getting the Fed to take over the state's decision.

We would argue that we just didn't want the fed to usurp the state's decision.
the fed want to get their hands on the state just so they could legalize gay marriage in every states. If the fed do take over the state, and IF people start a war over this (I am NOTsaying they should or will.. just saying "IF" ).. Down the line people would say this war was about gay marriages. Just like they say that civil war was about slavery.

[IM4given]

The reason the history books state that the Civil War was due to Southern support of the Institution of Slavery was due to the efforts of Mr. John Brown and a few other abolishionists ( http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/brown/timeline/index.html ) who wanted to wage a "Holy War" against slavery - which the ENTIRE country - not just the south - was in support of and benefited from socially and financially. Slaves were servants owned by the wealthy few aristocracy, not by common ordinary people.

If you want to read a history of the first shot fired of the Civil War, check this site out - it seems fairly accurate: http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/sumter.htm

[trc123]

As in any war, to the victor go the spoils.............quit your griping! :bonK:

[Guest Guest]

I totally agree!!

[Guest Guest]

As in any war' date=' to the victor go the spoils.............quit your griping! [/quote']

:lol:

[Anon]

The main thing that concerns me about confederacy is the idea of security...the smaller the area, the more vulnerable to outside forces and the more difficult trade and other things are.

[Guest Guest]

"Isaiah 8:12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid."

Yes I know this verse has nothing to do with the civil war, posted for humor reasons only.

:Green

[trc123]

"Isaiah 8:12 Say ye not' date=' A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid."[/color']

Yes I know this verse has nothing to do with the civil war, posted for humor reasons only.

:Green

Don't worry, some very serious and pious poster will take offense by both your and my attempts at humor!

[IM4given]

Don't worry,some very serious and pious poster will take offense by both your and my attempts at humor!

[futurehope]

Boy, I sure hope BO doesn't read OB!!!!

They're gonna shut us down!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :Bleh