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Just curious...

I haven't really researched Glenn Beck but I hear him occasionally on the radio when I'm out and about doing errands. I know he is Mormon. However on his radio progams, even the short amounts of time I listen to him, he is plain that the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ and that the country needs revival...he speaks often of the founders of our country believing in Christ and serving God and says the most important thing in his life is to get the message out to the country to turn back to God.

Is it possible for a Mormon to be saved? I've read books on fundamentalist Mormons (polygamists) and they are FAR from believing in true salvation but when Glenn Beck talks...I can hardly hear any "Mormon" in him. I realize I just may not listen to him enough to hear it though.

Anyone have any insight? (Please only those who have listened extensively to him or actually KNOW facts, not just suppositions...I truly want to know because I think its a wonderful thing that someone with as much clout as he has will try to get the message out about salvation.)

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Just curious...

I haven't really researched Glenn Beck but I hear him occasionally on the radio when I'm out and about doing errands. I know he is Mormon. However on his radio progams, even the short amounts of time I listen to him, he is plain that the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ and that the country needs revival...he speaks often of the founders of our country believing in Christ and serving God and says the most important thing in his life is to get the message out to the country to turn back to God.

Is it possible for a Mormon to be saved? I've read books on fundamentalist Mormons (polygamists) and they are FAR from believing in true salvation but when Glenn Beck talks...I can hardly hear any "Mormon" in him. I realize I just may not listen to him enough to hear it though.

Anyone have any insight? (Please only those who have listened extensively to him or actually KNOW facts, not just suppositions...I truly want to know because I think its a wonderful thing that someone with as much clout as he has will try to get the message out about salvation.)


The FLDS church (polygamists) has separated so far from the LDS that the FLDS is generally recognized as a cult from my understanding. They do believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus and believe in salvation by grace. They do have the Book of Mormon which adds to the Bible and they believe this was revealed to their prophet Joseph Smith. That's my knowledge of Mormons so I guess it would be possible for them to be saved, as it's possible for anyone - just comes down to if as long as you believe in salvation through Jesus by grace through faith and you add other stuff does that change salvation? I'm not sure.
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No, they preach another gospel. All of the Latter Day Saints are cults, yet many today accept them. You will even find some here that will defend them.


True. They believe Jesus was the highest level of man, not the Son of God. They also teach that Jesus and the devil are brothers. Their teaching is that all men can attain to godhood.

Beck plays to the Christian conservative crowd very well. However, if you watch/listen to him enough, he's selective in his messages so as to twist the message the way he wants it to go.
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Actually, Mormons do believe that Jesus is a son of God, just as Lucifer is...The only thing is, their belief is that God was once a man - their saying is: "As God was, man is. As God is, man is becoming." The goal of a devout Mormon is to become a god, with the ability to procreate spirit children who will take on physical bodies to continue the quest for godhood. (and, believe me, some of the young men take the idea that they are going to be gods to the extreme...some of the women they marry have horror tales to tell. Some don't, believing they are serving a high purpose in bearing lots of kids to raise as good Mormons)

As to their belief in Jesus Christ: as I said, they do believe that Jesus is a son of God. His plan for salvation was better than Lucifer's and so was accepted by Father. The LDS accepts the Bible, but believes that the Book of Mormon is equal to it. My mother's best friend's hubby explained it to me as: Imagine a chalkboard with only one nail in the middle of it. It will swing from side to side because it isn't anchored. But if you put a nail on each end of it, it is stable. The Bible and the Book of Mormon are like that. Either one alone, and things aren't stable. Together they are.

Anyone who has read the Book of Mormon knows that it teaches things that aren't scriptural. Although it is easy to read and quite entertaining! Joseph Smith literally took chapters out of the Bible and placed them in the BoM in certain books.

Salvation is by works with them. Yes, believe that Jesus Christ is Saviour, but then you have to do...because Mormons (the men, anyway) are working to become gods.

Beck did not grow up in the LDS, so I don't know how much he actually knows about what they believe. His girls liked the stake (Mormon's name for their individual church buildings) they went to, so he went as well...and liked it, so he stayed - for his girls, basically, at first. I don't know if Beck has read the Pearl of Great Price, the book of Abraham, and other writings that are considered gospel. I'm sure that he went through the lessons that one has to go through in order to be baptized into the church. Those lessons are interesting...and kinda scary!(I went through them when I was 18, so I know firsthand...)

Mormonism is a Luciferian religion and one that steals the glory and praise due to Almighty God, giving it to Lucifer and man. I don't believe that someone who accepts all of the tenets of Mormonism could be saved. However, just as in Catholicism, I do believe that some are (my mom's best friend was saved at 13, never discipled and joined the LDS because her hubby was one...although she was very unhappy because he married his first wife in the temple, so she is his wife in eternity...)

Beck is ultra-conservative, which appeals to a broad spectrum of people, both saved and lost. He does know his facts, and he is a showman so he is captivating in his delivery. And I think it's very interesting to note: there is a Mormon prophecy that the Constitution will be saved by a Mormon...

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Oh....that is very interesting about the prophecy. I do know that Mormons are anxious to be the "one" to fulfil prophecy.

I guess maybe his statements are so general that they can be taken for Christian...its sad, though, to think someone would place their faith through Jesus Christ but yet not accept all the truths necessary to be saved.

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They are actually very close to Catholicism. In fact, there are many Mormons who have said (I've known a number) that, if the Mormon church were ever proven to be false, they would become Catholic.

Both religions believe in a queen of heaven.

Both have a leader (the pope, and the prophet) who can speak ex-cathedra. Catholics have the Cardinals, while Mormons have the Apostles (supposedly through succession of laying on of hands, going clear back to when John the Baptist laid hands on Joseph Smith...).

It is very sad. Mormons are portrayed as being such family oriented groups. And yet, if someone leaves the church, they are removed from the rolls...and can never achieve heaven. My adopted daughter's hubby was raised Mormon, and when he got saved and left the church, it was really bad. His father and one brother got saved as well. He has two brothers still in there. It's a real burden on his heart.

Mormons have a good store of genealogical information...because they baptize for the dead, believing that will help the dead achieve heaven. Kinda like Catholic high mass to pray someone out of purgatory.

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Beck is not ultra-conservative, Beck is libertarian.

Beck is good with the facts he chooses to use but purposefully avoids the facts which don't fit his overall view. In doing this he presents a distorted view of some (individuals, events, etc.).

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Beck is not ultra-conservative, Beck is libertarian.

Beck is good with the facts he chooses to use but purposefully avoids the facts which don't fit his overall view. In doing this he presents a distorted view of some (individuals, events, etc.).

And libertarians aren't ultra-conservative?

As to presenting facts which he chooses to use: that is the common MO for most people who are presenting facts...
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And libertarians aren't ultra-conservative?

As to presenting facts which he chooses to use: that is the common MO for most people who are presenting facts...


Good question! Such would depend upon who you talk to. Many who call themselves hard core conservatives would disagree as would purist libertarians. There is much overlap between the two but how they would be categorized is somewhat subjective. If you want to go with your view, I'll ride along.

True about the common MO deal but that doesn't make it right. It's especially not right when he is attempting to attack on president based on the facts he puts forth yet builds up another president who did the same sort of things and calls him a role model.

Beck has also grossly distorted the facts with regards to MLK and has urged conservatives and Christians to follow his example.

These are the tactics of liberals, socialists, communists, progressives and totalitarians and tyrants in general. Such should not be the case for libertarians or conservatives who supposedly support the idea of putting all the facts forth and dealing with them.
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Don't get me started on Beck and don't get me started on Mormons either. I had a friend that for only two years was mormon. She had to leave that church because they told her that if she got married her non mormon friends and family was not welcomed. Also if she was going to marry a non mormon she would have to find a mormon also to marry on top of the man she will be marrying. There was other things that this friend said that got me to laugh so hard I can't stand it.
As for Beck I don't care for him because I think he is negative in alot of things. He says things to do more harm then Good. I am not trying to say not to listen to him but, my husband and I agreed we don't need to listen to shows like that.

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I remeber hearing Beck mock street preachers on his radio program calling them all loons yet if you watch his show he's almost adopted the street preacher's style of a "voice in the wilderness".

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I remeber hearing Beck mock street preachers on his radio program calling them all loons yet if you watch his show he's almost adopted the street preacher's style of a "voice in the wilderness".


In his early days on Fox was the 1st time I had seen or heard of this man. at 1st impression I liked him and watched him some days. But as his show has matured he seems to have changed and really is quite different than at 1st.

Your right, he is now preaching his agenda to America people, it has nothing to do with reporting the news in a none bias manner. Its far from we report, you decide. I think this verse sums up his agenda quite well.

1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

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