Correcting the King James Bible

[Tim]

So what exactly does Chevy make that can come close to beating a Ford Mustang? :cool

Do you mean other than a Corvette ? In 1998 the year my wife's Camaro (bright RED) was built her 3.6L V6's claim to fame was that it would beat a 1998 Mustang GT 5.0 V8 from 0-60mph (of course after that the V6 was toast on the track )

How about against a truck

2004 Chevrolet Colorado ZQ8
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/2004/chevrolet/colorado/zq8/page1.html
"Except for the fact that you

[kevinmiller]

Okay then, how about a Ford GT-40? :cool

My dad has a restored 1968 1/2 Mustang, a very rare model. Less than 500 made. I think my dad said it had around 400 hp.

He also has a 2001 Mustang convertible and I used to have a 1965 Mustang but I got rid of it because it was too much for me at that point when I just needed a car to get to work. It needed to be completely rebuilt.

[JerryNumbers]

Americans have become so materialist that they have an appetite that cannot be quenched, we just have to keep having more an more or we are so unhappy that we cannot stand ourselves and have got to the point we think God is for giving all of our hearts desires to keep us happy.

If it takes material items to keep one happy, them they really have never found what being content with the Lord really is.

I wonder how many material possession Paul could have had if he had not spent his time preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but had spent it gaining material possessions? But of course Paul found his happiness in the Lord and working for the Lord, not in wealth or possessions.

And of course our Lord and Savior had nowhere to lie His head, but yet He could have had ever material possession possible and He is the example we should follow.

21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

1 Peter 2:21 (KJV)

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 2:5-6 (KJV)

The scripture says he that abided in Christ ought to walk as He walked, that is live their life as Christ lived His life. How many of has really humbled ourselves that much?

What was Jesus' priority?

Was it to have the biggest fanciest house?

Was it to have the fanciest fastest ride in town?

Was it to have more possession than anyone else?

Was Jesus ever a show off?

57 And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.

58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

59 And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

61 And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house.

62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

Luke 9:57-62 (KJV)

How many of us are much like this man who talked to Jesus that day so many years ago?

How many of us would follow Jesus if He come into our lives today and said to us, "Follow me," if His possession was as they were in Luke 9:58?

No, man tends to follow the ones who shows success by having many earthly possession, those who do not, we look down on them as if they have no ambitions for earthly possession and therefore could not be of Christ and are not worthy of our presence.

[Doc H]

Yes, Biblically, he is disqualified to be a pastor. And the only way you can excuse it is if a person twist their KJV to fit into the KJV-Defender's doctrine, which could be made into a denomination if we were to add up all of his extra-biblical doctrines.

Is that so?

Then Biblically any and all pastors that are not:

1. Blameless
2. Vigilant
3. Sober
4. Given to hospitality
5. Apt to teach
6. Patient
and are greedy of filthy lucre, brawlers and strikers and don't rule their own house had better stand down IMMEDIATELY for those are the qualifications (BIBLICAL) of a pastor.

Why only focus on one qualification at the exclusion of the others?

Now 'husband of ONE wife' what does that really mean? Surely, exactly what it says. There is no need to go to the Greek. If a man has been divorced then he is no longer married, he has no wife. If he remarries then he has 'become the husband of one wife'. It's pretty simple.

Now something to think about for my fellow brothers and sisters who hold onto Baptist Tradition like Benedict XVIth does to Catholic Tradition.

Those pastors who were fornicators before they got saved actually got married in God's eye's when they had sex. You don't need to have any marriage ceremony or certificate to say you are married, unless I have missed something in the NT.

So if Dr Ruckman is not qualified to pastor then dare I say that there are hundreds if not thousands of IFB pastors who should step down immediately.

I certainly don't have a problem with Dr Ruckman having been married twice before since he is NOT my pastor. If he is your pastor then I suggest you leave and find a church where the pastor is BLAMELESS.

Ithank my God that he is full of grace and forgiveness that he even allows those who were drunkards, fornicators, brawlers etc to become pastors if called to do so.

[Doc H]

Multiple marriages, but yet he want step down, that is proof that he is not following God's instructions, enough said, how many more errors is he following where he thinks he knows better than God?

I don't need him nor do I need to read about him.

But, all that said, I follow God and Jesus, no man, seems like the car man is a follower of a man.

The only car I know spoken about in the Bible is an accord, but nothing is said about what year model it is. But we know one thing, they were in one accord.

jerry,

Multiple marriages?

Actually I heard some one say that Dr Ruckman has been married SIX times and is currently a guest at the 'Pensacola Institute for the Biblically Insane'

[Doc H]

No. Ruckman believes in the KJV because it has the name "KJV" written on the front of it. He believes and teaches advanced revelation and that the KJV "corrected" ERRORS in the ORIGINAL Greek and Hebrew. He also defends the KJV with arrogance, condemnation and foul language. Not someone a Christian should be associated with. He gives KJVO'ers a bad name.

The Vaticanus omits the books of Genesis and Revelation and also omits chapters from Hebrews which disprove the Catholic Mass.

The Vaticanus also contains the Apocrypha as part of the OT canon.

As you well know most if not all perversions are translated from parts of this corrupt manuscript.

So of course the KJB corrects the Hebrew and Greek. Once again it's pretty simple and not heretical if you take the time to study it out.

[kevinmiller]

Then Biblically any and all pastors that are not:

1. Blameless
2. Vigilant
3. Sober
4. Given to hospitality
5. Apt to teach
6. Patient
and are greedy of filthy lucre, brawlers and strikers and don't rule their own house had better stand down IMMEDIATELY for those are the qualifications (BIBLICAL) of a pastor.

Thanks for pointing that out. But by your comments, I assume this is one area that we are to ignore the Bible on?

Now 'husband of ONE wife' what does that really mean? Surely, exactly what it says. There is no need to go to the Greek. If a man has been divorced then he is no longer married, he has no wife. If he remarries then he has 'become the husband of one wife'. It's pretty simple.

Biblically, he is still married. No two ways about it. The Bible CLEARLY states, in the KJV, that if you separate from your wife that you are to remain unmarried. Ruckman has disqualified himself as a pastor.

Now something to think about for my fellow brothers and sisters who hold onto Baptist Tradition like Benedict XVIth does to Catholic Tradition.

It's a shame you don't hold to the Bible tradition as much as you think you do.

So if Dr Ruckman is not qualified to pastor then dare I say that there are hundreds if not thousands of IFB pastors who should step down immediately.

No doubt you are probably right.

Actually I heard some one say that Dr Ruckman has been married SIX times and is currently a guest at the 'Pensacola Institute for the Biblically Insane'

lol, so did you post that for our enjoyment or to reprove us?

[kevinmiller]

The Vaticanus omits the books of Genesis and Revelation and also omits chapters from Hebrews which disprove the Catholic Mass.

The Vaticanus also contains the Apocrypha as part of the OT canon.

As you well know most if not all perversions are translated from parts of this corrupt manuscript.

So of course the KJB corrects the Hebrew and Greek. Once again it's pretty simple and not heretical if you take the time to study it out.

Sure it does... :loco

Good thing the KJV wasn't translated from the Vaticanus. :loco

[Doc H]

Thanks for pointing that out. But by your comments, I assume this is one area that we are to ignore the Bible on?


Biblically, he is still married. No two ways about it. The Bible CLEARLY states, in the KJV, that if you separate from your wife that you are to remain unmarried. Ruckman has disqualified himself as a pastor.


It's a shame you don't hold to the Bible tradition as much as you think you do.


No doubt you are probably right.


lol, so did you post that for our enjoyment or to reprove us?

No I didn't say that.

So far you and others have focused on divorce/remarriage at the exclusion of ALL the other qualifications.

What do you make of 1 Cor 7:28 "But if thou marry, thou hast NOT SINNED".

Maybe the KJB is not innerrant since Paul is clearly contradicting himself with what he wrote to Timothy if 'husband of one wife' means what you believe.

'Bible Tradition'? I said Baptist tradition which can be just as deadly as Catholic tradition if it goes against the Scriptures.

So since you agree with me in part about the other pastoral qualifications will you now be naming the names of some pastors who should be stepping down?

Or will you do the Biblical thing and go by Galations 6:1?

Why kick our own wounded?

What happened to grace and forgiveness???????

[Doc H]

Anyways, I have spent enough time defending a brother who is not even my pastor.

I will end by saying that I will respect any man who believes what he preaches, stands on the KJB as the FINAL AUTHORITY and is still willing at the age of 85 years to stand on a street corner in down town Pensacola and PUBLICKLY PREACH THE GOSPEL BECAUSE HE LOVES HIS SAVIOUR AND FELLOW MAN.

It's a pity that more pastors don't get out from behind the pulpit and do likewise being ensamples to their flock.

But then again I guess they are just to busy attacking a brother who is doing something for the Kingdom.

Here endeth my rant.

If I have come across as being arrogant and unchristian in my 'speech' and have caused anyone offense, I apologise for that was not my intention.

I was just trying to contend for the faith ONCE delivered to the best of my God given ability.

If I have made some of you think about some of your Baptist traditions which have been passed down from one generation to another without critical and Holy Ghost empowered examination then I have achieved something.

God Bless you,

Doc H

[Guest Guest]

Anyways, I have spent enough time defending a brother who is not even my pastor.

I will end by saying that I will respect any man who believes what he preaches, stands on the KJB as the FINAL AUTHORITY and is still willing at the age of 85 years to stand on a street corner in down town Pensacola and PUBLICKLY PREACH THE GOSPEL BECAUSE HE LOVES HIS SAVIOUR AND FELLOW MAN.

It's a pity that more pastors don't get out from behind the pulpit and do likewise being ensamples to their flock.

But then again I guess they are just to busy attacking a brother who is doing something for the Kingdom.

Here endeth my rant.

If I have come across as being arrogant and unchristian in my 'speech' and have caused anyone offense, I apologise for that was not my intention.

I was just trying to contend for the faith ONCE delivered to the best of my God given ability.

If I have made some of you think about some of your Baptist traditions which have been passed down from one generation to another without critical and Holy Ghost empowered examination then I have achieved something.

God Bless you,

Doc H

I appreciate your posts, Doc H. I agree with everything you said about Dr. Ruckman...good posting!

[Jerry]

Those pastors who were fornicators before they got saved actually got married in God's eye's when they had sex. You don't need to have any marriage ceremony or certificate to say you are married, unless I have missed something in the NT.

Fornication does not equal marriage! If it did, the Bible would not contain this command:

1 Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

What do you make of 1 Cor 7:28 "But if thou marry, thou hast NOT SINNED".

Take this statement in context with the whole chapter: if a Christian spouse is abandoned by a non-Christian spouse, then they are free to remarry (hence, not sinning). The Bible does not say the Christian who divorces their spouse is blameless, nor that their are blameless if they do this and remarry.

Why only focus on one qualification at the exclusion of the others?

We are not doing that - HOWEVER, you are explaining away a portion of Scripture by implying no pastor can keep all these qualifications, therefore we should not abide by them... It is not one OR the others; it is all.

The Vaticanus omits the books of Genesis and Revelation and also omits chapters from Hebrews which disprove the Catholic Mass.
The Vaticanus also contains the Apocrypha as part of the OT canon.
So of course the KJB corrects the Hebrew and Greek. Once again it's pretty simple and not heretical if you take the time to study it out.

I think we can call this a smokescreen. Ruckman states the King James Bible corrects ALL the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts - not just the corrupted Alexandrian manuscripts. That is the problem. If the KJV is different than the preserved manuscripts it is translated from, there is a problem.

Or will you do the Biblical thing and go by Galations 6:1?
Why kick our own wounded?
What happened to grace and forgiveness???????

We are restore repentant brethren, not those who justify their wrongdoing or are unrepentant.

[kevinmiller]

Excellent post Jerry.

[JerryNumbers]

Doc H wrote.

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Baptist tradition? No, Bible teaching at its best, the man you support does not fulfill the qualifications for a New Testament pastor set by none other than God, not the Baptist.

Although I do know many Baptist Churches who set their own qualifications as you do, but I will not have nothing to do with them for obvious reasons.

Kathie, so you think its fine for a pastor to have been married over and over again. That surprises me for you to support such teachings as this.

[lettheredeemedsayso]

I refuse to listen to people correcting the KJV!!!