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[quote]When we do wrong we can expect it to be brodcast far and wide and that is a good reason for us to be very careful abot what we do, surely we don't want to bring shame of our lord.

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Very good point.

I think too as we raise our kids we need to make sure what we are teaching them is in their heart. Too many kids are being raised in Christian homes to go through the motions, but they really don't have a relationship with God. I know Christian newlyweds who have had affairs or even completely left their spouse within only a year or two...and initially the marriage looked "made in Heaven". They had a form of godliness.....

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I don't believe for one second its the newspaper picking on churches, clearly the neighbor mentioned they were active members of a Fundamental Baptist Church and the newspaper just quoted the neighbor as they did with them being a quite newly weds.

When we do wrong we can expect it to be brodcast far and wide and that is a good reason for us to be very careful abot what we do, surely we don't want to bring shame of our lord.


I agree with the basic point that we need to be careful what we do because it affects others and that things like that will be broadcast about us, however...if the neighbour had mentioned that a person who had committed such a crime attended the Muslim Mosque down the street, the paper would not have allowed that quote to be published. They would have had many quotes from the neighbours, interesting that they published one that was, in reality, totally unrelated to the story. I was taught in journalism class in college that you only write relevant information in news stories, so when something that isn't really relevant is brought up, it is because someone has an agenda. It's not the churchs fault that this happened, it is the fault of the individual, but now people will blame the church based on that quote that had it been a different "religion" would not have been published.
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The basic point is, you do not know what this paper would have mentioned if this concerned a Muslim Mosque. All your doing is speculation and stating your opinion. This may well be a family run newspaper and who knows, the family that owns it may be Christians and if it had been a Muslim they may have gone more in-depth with it.

Now if this was some larger national newspaper, I might just agree with you.

And of course, when someone does something bad and a person knows they attend a church, more than likely they're going to mentioned it for they are in shock that they would do such a bad thing.

Its a fact, good people do bad things, its the fallen nature of everyone of us.

Several pictures of Christa Ann Alexander.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ewychopen/BeautifulChrista

This is her husband MySpace page.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =268443353

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His MySpace page doesn't look very pastor-ish to me....

Poor Christa, the wedding pix were sad, in retrospect.

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I don't believe for one second its the newspaper picking on churches, clearly the neighbor mentioned they were active members of a Fundamental Baptist Church and the newspaper just quoted the neighbor as they did with them being a quite newly weds.

When we do wrong we can expect it to be brodcast far and wide and that is a good reason for us to be very careful abot what we do, surely we don't want to bring shame of our lord.




Exactly...when we do wrong, it is like being on the network news. When we do something good, no one (or just a few) will learn of it. Fortunately Our Lord and Savior knows.

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What a tragedy this is. I am so sorry to hear this news. :sad I will keep all in my prayer journal.

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I thought they said he was working on planting a church or something...?


I don't know nothing about him planting a church, but I understand they both had been on a mission trip.

But Christa had been on several mission trips with her parents.

I was disappointed in his MySpace page. Maybe I expect to much from young ones.

Christa and family were singers, they went and sang at many churches, I don't know if they recorded anything or not. But I understand they are very good.

A local church had them sing at their church about a year ago, but I really did not approve of it, it was on a Sunday morning and they canceled preaching service for them to sing, I completely disagree with a church doing this. I don't believe its proper to cancel preaching service for such a thing as singing. I might go along with canceling Sunday School, but not preaching services.

Suzy, Do you suppose those who really do the talk, or as you say, "strongest "external" convictions," are all talk and really don't have that much convictions, hardly ever walk the walk. I say this because of one of our members, she had the talk and she can say the right things, but every time she turns around she messes up. There is no doubt she knows the right thing to do, she has great Bible knowledge, but in daily life she just don't seem to make use of it. I feel this way about her, she is her own worse enemy. It was bad before her mother died, but now its all down hill for her, and to think her father was a preacher, and her mother would never miss church.

And another person I am so disappointed in, her husband baptized me in 61, but died in early 70's. I am so disappointed at her church attendance, she will come 3 or 4 weeks, them miss 2 to 4 weeks, anytime her children come home she will miss church, says she can't leave them at home by their self. And to think, one of her daughters is married to a pastor. I might say, she to has great Bible knowledge.

My thought, its not how much knowledge one has, it is how one uses the knowledge they do have.
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There are many comments on this site, and most the time I wouldn't even comment on anything like this. I know the families involved. We loved both of these young people, and we were there at their wedding. Christa was a sweet, innocent, godly, young lady who had a contagious joyful spirit. Couty, in the past, had been a sweet, godly, young man. Any parent would have felt honored to have either of these young people as an in-law. It is obvious that in recent months or years, Couty began living a double life. The Bible says, "A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways". Couty had battles that we don't know. He must have tried to get back on the right track. He must have thought Christa would help him to accomplish that. The Bible is always true. You can't fool God, and your sin will always find you out. His myspace account surely makes it evident that this young man had a double life. But, the one thing we can hold to is that God allowed this to happen. He knew Christa's life would be taken, and yet, he allowed it for his purpose. I am sure God has been trying to bring Couty back to a walk with him. But, Couty must have not heeded the Holy Spirit's calling, and Satan is a deceiver and a liar, who slowly deceived Couty, little by little. And, sad to say, he listened to the lies, and sin is always fun for a season. Christa's family has forgiven him, and I know God will too. And we can rest in the faith of knowing she stands before God a good and faithful servant. It will be hard especially for both moms. They each lost a child. The Alexander family will deal with such a heavy burden that only God can give the grace to comfort. And for Couty, we must pray that he doesn't become bitter and angry, but that the Holy Spririt will work in his heart to bring him in repentance to God. His life is ruined as far as the plans God had, but God can use him as a witness in prison. We need to pray that God will be glorified through this, and if there are teens or young people out there who think you can play with sin and it won't affect them, I hope they will see just how far sin will take you.

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There are many comments on this site' date=' and most the time I wouldn't even comment on anything like this. I know the families involved. We loved both of these young people, and we were there at their wedding. Christa was a sweet, innocent, godly, young lady who had a contagious joyful spirit. Corty, in the past, had been a sweet, godly, young man. Any parent would have felt honored to have either of these young people as an in-law. It is obvious that in recent months or years, Couty began living a double life. The Bible says, "A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways". Couty had battles that we don't know. He must have tried to get back on the right track. He must have thought Christa would help him to accomplish that. The Bible is always true. You can't fool God, and your sin will always find you out. His myspace account surely makes it evident that this young man had a double life. But, the one thing we can hold to is that God allowed this to happen. He knew Christa's life would be taken, and yet, he allowed it for his purpose. I am sure God has been trying to bring Couty back to a walk with him. But, Couty must have not heeded the Holy Spirit's calling, and Satan is a deceiver and a liar, who slowly deceived Couty, little by little. And, sad to say, he listened to the lies, and sin is always fun for a season. Christa's family has forgiven him, and I know God will too. And we can rest in the faith of knowing she stands before God a good and faithful servant. It will be hard especially for both moms. They each lost a child. The Alexander family will deal with such a heavy burden that only God can give the grace to comfort. And for Couty, we must pray that he doesn't become bitter and angry, but that the Holy Spririt will work in his heart to bring him in repentance to God. His life is ruined as far as the plans God had, but God can use him as a witness in prison. We need to pray that God will be glorified through this, and if there are teens or young people out there who think you can play with sin and it won't affect them, I hope they will see just how far sin will take you.[/quote']

True, And we know that God can do this.

Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

And we all know that good people do bad things, that the only unforgivable sin is unbelief on Jesus, hopefully Couty will make uses of God's grace very soon, no doubt he needs the support of many prayers.

But in situations like this, i suppose we all discuss it, we're in shock, hoping to make some sense of it, and also with hopes of learning something that will help us help someone else on down the road.

No, no one can play with sin, anyone who thinks they can only fools their self.

Edited to all this.

After heading to bed I thought about this part of your post and came back to my computer.

<<"There are many comments on this site, and most the time I wouldn't even comment on anything like this.">>

Wondering, if you don't normally post comments on such a topic, why do so now? Is it because you think we mean disrespect? If so see my next to last paragraph above. We each deal with situations differently, some discuss them, some don't discuss them, I suppose neither are rightly wrong, but many times discussing helps. But I assure you, no disrespect is meant under this topic. I hope you don't think it is.

I might add, I looked thru each of those pictures of Christa, seeing the many looks on her face, the beautiful smiles, she must have had a wonderful personality.

And believe me, I know of one church and its members who have offered up prayers for everyone involved in this matter and or effected by this. Plus I feel sure after my 1st post on here about this, there has been many prayers offered up on this matter to from members of OB because I asked for them.

In fact, that was one reason I started this topic as I did put this in the 1st post, "Please pray for this family..."
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Good posting Isaiah. These people would rather talk about and judge a couple they never knew because it's like a hobby to them. They have no clue what really happened, but it makes for excellent gossip...it's sad that it's that way but it's the way it is.

The families look like they are doing well, all things considered.

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Good posting Isaiah. These people would rather talk about and judge a couple they never knew because it's like a hobby to them. They have no clue what really happened, but it makes for excellent gossip...it's sad that it's that way but it's the way it is.

The families look like they are doing well, all things considered.


We see your hobby quite often but you know nothing about my hobby.

And those families that truly have Jesus in their life, well this explains it better than any human can.

13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thess 4:13-18 (KJV)
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These people would rather talk about and judge a couple they never knew because it's like a hobby to them. They have no clue what really happened' date=' but it makes for excellent gossip...it's sad that it's that way but [b']it's the way it is.


I don't think that is a fair assessment of the folks here on OB. I don't think anyone here has judged the heart of either of the young people involved in this situation. They have stated facts and wondered how such an awful thing transpired.

A young man murdered his wife. Some of the folks here (including you) know them or of them personally. I don't think there is anything wrong with a frank discussion of what happened.

It is one of the greatest deceptions of Satan that saved people aren't capable of such sins. We are all capable of murder. We have to face this and realize that, without the grace and strength of God to guide us and help us, we may fall into any number of sins. That is why it is important to consistently feed the spiritual man and starve and crucify the old man.

Let me share a personal instance:

I went to high school at a Christian school with a girl named Amanda. If people had been honest, they would have recognized that she had problems and tried to help her. But, since she sang in the youth choir and always went to youth meetings and revivals and the mere fact that she was a member of a certain church, she was always given the benefit of the doubt and never dealt with seriously.

Fast-forward 7 years after high school and she has a son out of wedlock and is doing drugs and not attending church. Her grandparents pay for the young boy to attend Tabernacle Christian School.

Last fall she killed her own 2nd grade son in the back seat of the car at a 4-way stop by suffocating him with a pillow. Then she concocted a story of a man carjacking her and killing her son while she helplessly watched from outside the locked car.

Even after it was apparent that she had killed him, some folks incessantly defended her because she had grown up at a certain church, went to a certain school, or simply because they couldn't possibly know a murderer.

It would have been better to recognize the truth and learn from it than to bury their collective heads in the sand while other young people leave the church in droves.

It's time for us to be honest about things and quit smoothing over sin. :2cents

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