Textual/version stance

[Bakershalfdozen]

No bitterness here! :Green It is hilarious to me how folks use the bitterness card when their heros are "attacked". I know; I used to do the same thing.

I'm just judging righteous judgment, exercising discernment and trying to warn others. Calvin can't defend himself either but that doesn't stop anyone from talking about some false teaching he promoted.

[Guest Guest]

Now that these men have gotten numerous amount of attention on OB...can we get back to the Textual/version stance? I think I would welcome a learning lesson from brothers and sisters in Christ on OB...if we left men out of it. Can we stick to the Bible? This is so funny. :lol Really? Oh Lord...HELP!

[Guest Guest]

But you're the one who brought up the charge of bitterness. I don't want to argue about any of it' date=' really. Just wanted to let Bakers know that I agreed with her, and let you know that I'm not bitter. :thumb[/quote']

If we want to talk about who started it, she did by posting a long rant about what's "wrong" with Dr. Ruckman. She wasn't the first to bring Ruckman into this topic, though.

It always goes this way. On any long topic about the KJV, someone will call me or someone else a KJVO-extremist, and compare us with Ruckman as if it marks us as heretics or something. Then it turns into a big debate about Ruckman and the topic gets locked.

I'm just trying to keep it from becoming a big Ruckman debate so this topic keeps going for a while. :smile

[matie-k]

I think it's been going on plenty long enough! :tum

[Bakershalfdozen]

Candlelight, what else is there to say? Really? The poll tells us how people believe. After 26 pages, if we haven't learned something new then we probably won't. This discussion will continue in the same manner that it already has here and in other threads.

Some people believe in a directly-inspired translation, as in God breathed again in 1611. While this has no Biblical or logical basis, it is accepted by "faith".

Still others believe in preservation as the result of inspiration. God promised to preserve His Word. He didn't promise to reinspire it every time a better translation came along. This too is accepted by faith in what God has promised regarding preservation.

Some people hold to a textual line as being God's preserved line. This is accepted by faith in what God has promised regarding preservation.

Some people believe that God has preserved His Word in many different places and many different translations. This is accepted by faith in what God has promised regarding preservation.

[Bakershalfdozen]

If we want to talk about who started it, she did by posting a long rant about what's "wrong" with Dr. Ruckman. She wasn't the first to bring Ruckman into this topic, though.

It wasn't a rant because I'm not angry. I was exposing the truth. And in case you didn't notice, most of what I wrote about concerned the Hyles movement. JH and others preachers like him handle the Word of God deceitfully in order to serve their own purposes. I saw and heard the exact same thing in the video sermon I saw of PR.

[Guest Guest]

I think it's been going on plenty long enough! :tum

matie-k... Can I learn about the Textual/version stance now? The Lord Jesus Christ is my HERO, and no one else...well, I'll add my hubby, pastor, FIL...never mind. You've got my drift, I think? Let's stop this nonsense, and get back to the topic at hand. I don't want to bring anyone's experience (good or bad) into the equation. Pretty, please? :wave:

[Guest Guest]

Candlelight, what else is there to say? Really? The poll tells us how people believe. After 26 pages, if we haven't learned something new then we probably won't. This discussion will continue in the same manner that it already has here and in other threads.

Some people believe in a directly-inspired translation, as in God breathed again in 1611. While this has no Biblical or logical basis, it is accepted by "faith".

Still others believe in preservation as the result of inspiration. God promised to preserve His Word. He didn't promise to reinspire it every time a better translation came along. This too is accepted by faith in what God has promised regarding preservation.

Some people hold to a textual line as being God's preserved line. This is accepted by faith in what God has promised regarding preservation.

Some people believe that God has preserved His Word in many different places and many different translations. This is accepted by faith in what God has promised regarding preservation.

I noticed something in this post. You made every position sound "ok" except for the one that us "Ruckmanites" believe.

[Bakershalfdozen]

That's because the others are based on preservation (plenty of verses for this) and not re-inspiration (no verses for this).

[Guest Guest]

[quote="Bakershalfdozen"]That's because the others are based on preservation (plenty of verses for this) and not re-inspiration (no verses for this).[/quote]

That's because almost everyone here misunderstands the concept of God inspiring a translation. It isn't like God re-wrote the Bible. He inspired the translators (He gave them understanding) as they were translating the King James Bible.

[Bakershalfdozen]

So you say.

[HappyChristian]

[quote="matie-k"]I think it's been going on plenty long enough! :tum[/quote]
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[Guest Guest]

Looks like this topic's gonna be locked pretty soon. Happens every time.

[Bakershalfdozen]

I don't know about the other mods or the OP, but I'm not planning on locking it. Looks like we've just run out of things to say. We should start numbering these topics and referring to them that way. :lol:

KJV issue - #3
Pants - #5
Tithing - #7

Have ya'll heard the joke about the guys in prison who had heard the same jokes over and over again so many times they could just call out a number like #10! and everybody would laugh. A new prisoner arrived one day and heard about the joke system so one night he called out, #19! Nobody laughed. Down the hall another prisoner remarked, some can tell 'em and some cain't.

[Guest Guest]

[quote="Bakershalfdozen"]I don't know about the other mods or the OP, but I'm not planning on locking it. Looks like we've just run out of things to say. We should start numbering these topics and referring to them that way. :lol:

KJV issue - #3
Pants - #5
Tithing - #7

Have ya'll heard the joke about the guys in prison who had heard the same jokes over and over again so many times they could just call out a number like #10! and everybody would laugh. A new prisoner arrived one day and heard about the joke system so one night he called out, #19! Nobody laughed. Down the hall another prisoner remarked, some can tell 'em and some cain't.[/quote]

I've heard that joke before... and yeah, some topics around here just never end. Of course, I see a reason for the KJV topic to go on... it's the foundation of everything we believe. The pants issue and the tithing issue are more personal.