Clarence Larkin - Revelation

[Invicta]

I do hope that your church secretary gets well.

Thanks Alan. He was taken into hospital on Friday and has had tests and injections.  He was expecting to come out tomorrow, but he may now come home later today.  He will have to inject himself with two drugs and go back for tests later in the week. 

[Invicta]

Thanks again Alan.  He is at home now and his wife missed our evening meeting to take care of him. 

Earlier you asked

What do most of the Reformed Baptist churches in England believe about the Tribulation Period? A brief answer would probably be sufficient if possible.

I asked Ian and he said "pass" this evening I asked one of our members who is a retired Grace Baptist Pastor (Rehoboth Church, Margate then, I think it is in Broadstairs now) All he would say is that it will happen sometime.

[Alan]

Invicta,

Thank you. Your friend is correct; the tribulation period will happen sometime. Give my regards to Ian.

“Revelation 6:1-19:21, Overview.”

By Clarence Larkin

Review by Alan

Four review notes by Alan.

1. The charts in this review are copied from my own book. As there is not a page number on some of the doubled charts, I am giving the reader the page number before and after the chart in question.

2. When I quote Larkin, I will quote him as he wrote; i.e., Capitalization, bold print, punctuation and COMPLETE WORD CAPITALIZATION.     

3. I have changed my title of this overview from, “Revelation 6:1-19:10,” to, “Revelation 6:1-19:21,” to reflect Larkins’ rendering of Daniel’s Seventieth Week.[1]

4. The charts are not given a number designation.

“Daniel’s Seventy Weeks.”

Clarence Larkin, from page 48-52, convincingly proves that the events from Revelation 6:1-19:21, are in fulfillment of the prophecy given to Daniel in Daniel 9:1-27.

Larkin says, “The Vision of the “SEVENTY WEEKS” is the most important revelation, in many ways, made in the Scriptures. We are here told that this Period of “SEVENTY WEEKS” was determined upon Daniel’s people ( the Jews ), and upon the HOLY CITY ( Jerusalem ). This is very important. It discloses the fact that the “SEVENTY WEEKS” have nothing to do with the Gentiles, or the Church, but only with the JEWS and JERUSALEM. It also discloses another important fact that the “SEVENTY WEEKS” only cover the period when the Jews are DWELLING IN THEIR OWN LAND, and does not cover the present period of their Dispersion. We are told in verse 24 that those “SEVENTY WEEKS” were determined for a SIX-FOLD purpose.”[2]

Larkin then goes into suitable detail to prove his interpretation of Daniel 9:24-27 and the fulfillment thereof in Revelation 6:1-19:21

Larkin sets the foundation of the fulfilled prophecy in Revelation according to the prophecy given to Daniel in Daniel 9:1-27 Larkin proceeds to interpret each statement in Daniel 9:24-27 with the proper relationship with the nation of Israel according to Old and New Testament scripture. For example: Romans 11:26 & 27; Zechariah 12:10, 13:1; Isaiah 66:8; Habakkuk 2:14; Ezekiel 41; Zechariah 6:12 & 13, etc...

Larkin goes into the necessary detail with the dating involved in Daniel 9:24-27

Larkin’s, “The Tribulation Period or Daniel’s

  Seventieth Week” the Reign of the Antichrist.” Chart.

 

 

 

The above chart is located between page 48 and 49

Coupled with the above chart, Larkin then proceeds with another chart to show the relationship of the timing of Daniel’s Seventy Weeks as compared with the, “Times of the Gentiles.”

Larkin’s, “SEVENTY WEEKS” “Times of the Gentiles,” chart

 

 

 

The above chart is on page 51.

Matthew 24 and Revelation 6

Immediately after his dissertation on Daniel 9 Larkin gives us some interesting similarities between the, “Olivet Discourse,” of the Lord Jesus and the order of fulfillment in Revelation 6.

Larkin’s, “Comparison of Christ’s “Olivet Discourse” and “Revelation Six,” charts.

 

 

 

 

The above chart (one of two charts), in found on page 62 & 63

 

 

 

This chart (number two of two charts), is found on page 64.

 

 

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[1] Larkin, Clarence. The Book of Revelation. 1919. Glenside, PA: Clarence Larkin Estate, n.d., Page 48

[2] Larkin, Clarence. The Book of Revelation. 1919. Glenside, PA: Clarence Larkin Estate, n.d., Page 49

 

 

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[Invicta]

[Alan]

HaHaHaHa! I love those signs.  

[Eric Stahl]

Daniel 11:35,36-43a, describes the first seal white horse and probably Psalm 83 war and Obadiah.

[Daniel Gladu]

I am a student currently at Landmark Baptist College and Dr. Mickey Carter is the pastor of the church and president of the college. He teaches a class on Revelation and uses this book as the text book for the class. It is a very good book and I highly recommend it!

[Alan]

Eric Stahl,

We appreciate your bringing to our attention Daniel 11:35-46a and the first seal, the White Horse, in Revelation 6. I think you are correct.

Daniel Galdu,

Welcome to the discussion! We do hope that your studies are doing well at Landmark. I for one, and I am sure other folks at here on OnLine Baptist, do appreciate the fine ministry that the Lord has given to Pastor Mickey Carter. I believe Pastor Carter has been at Landmark Baptist Church for 40 years. Praise the Lord!

Thank you also bringing out that Pastor Carter is using Clarence Larkin's book on Revelation as his texbook for his Revelation  Bible class.  My hat is off to you.

Brethren,

I cannot over emphasize the importance of Larkin's book in the area of prophecy. I would encourage everyone not only to get a copy ( the current book I am using for the charts in this study is my second copy ), but to study carefully every section, the verses referenced too, and every chart dilgently.

God bless you all.

Alan

 

 

[Invicta]

HaHaHaHa! I love those signs.  

Good, here are some more.  They of course refer to the London Tube railway. When a station is on a bend there is a gap between the platform and the train

[Invicta]

Daniel 11:35,36-43a, describes the first seal white horse and probably Psalm 83 war and Obadiah.

Danniel 11 has absolutely no connection with Revelation.  It is a history written in advance of the Persians and Greeks and ends up with ministry of Jesus and the Christian Jews fleeing Jerusalem as commanded by Jesus in the Olivet prophecy. Dan 12:1

 

[Alan]

In relationship with the prophetic history of Israel, already fulfilled, Daniel 11:1-34 is a complete history of the four kings mentioned in Daniel 11:1 & 2

The four kings are:

1. Ahasuerus: Ezra 4:6 and Esther 1:1

2. Artaxerxes: Ezra 4:6-24

3. Darius Hystaspis: Ezra 4:6-24 King of Persia

4. The mighty king in Daniel 11:3 is Alexander the Great who destroyed the Persian Kingdom in 332 B.C.

Please note: in Daniel 11:4 we have the prophecy that after the fourth king was destroyed his kingdom would be broken up into four other kingdoms. Clarence Larkin, in his explanation of Daniel 8, goes into detail how this was historically fulfilled on page 112-115 of his book. Again, I would suggest that you, and anyone else interested in a serious study of prophecy, obtain Clarence Larkin's book on Revelation and study it along with your Bible.

Daniel 11:1-34 was completed prophecy and is considered history as we speak.

If you read Eric Stahls' post he clearly, and correctly, delineated Daniel 11:35-43a from Daniel 11:1-34. Eric knows his biblical history and what was fulfilled and what will be fulfilled in the future as recorded in the book of Revelation.

If you read Daniel 11:35 very, very closely it is obvious that the prophet Daniel is clearly referring to another king.  "... even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed." The "...time of the end ..." has not been reached as we speak. From verse 35 and following the prophet Daniel ceases to talk about the kings of Persians, Greeks, and any other Kings in history (such as Antiochus Epiphanes B.C. 175-165). Daniel 11:35-43 and he is clearly referring to the end times as recorded in Revelation.

It is historically, and prophetically, incorrect to say that any portion of Daniel 11 was completed after the ministry of the Lord Jesus in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed Jerusalem  and it is an incorrect interpretation of the teaching of the Lord Jesus as recorded in the Olivet discourse.

Eric Stahl was correct and I was correct when I agreed with him.  

Alan

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[Invicta]

In relationship with the prophetic history of Israel, already fulfilled, Daniel 11:1-34 is a complete history of the four kings mentioned in Daniel 11:1 & 2

The four kings are:

1. Ahasuerus: Ezra 4:6 and Esther 1:1

2. Artaxerxes: Ezra 4:6-24

3. Darius Hystaspis: Ezra 4:6-24 King of Persia

4. The mighty king in Daniel 11:3 is Alexander the Great who destroyed the Persian Kingdom in 332 B.C.

Please note: in Daniel 11:4 we have the prophecy that after the fourth king was destroyed his kingdom would be broken up into four other kingdoms. Clarence Larkin, in his explanation of Daniel 8, goes into detail how this was historically fulfilled on page 112-115 of his book. Again, I would suggest that you, and anyone else interested in a serious study of prophecy, obtain Clarence Larkin's book on Revelation and study it along with your Bible.

Daniel 11:1-34 was completed prophecy and is considered history as we speak.

If you read Eric Stahls' post he clearly, and correctly, delineated Daniel 11:35-43a from Daniel 11:1-34. Eric knows his biblical history and what was fulfilled and what will be fulfilled in the future as recorded in the book of Revelation.

If you read Daniel 11:35 very, very closely it is obvious that the prophet Daniel is clearly referring to another king.  "... even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed." The "...time of the end ..." has not been reached as we speak. From verse 35 and following the prophet Daniel ceases to talk about the kings of Persians, Greeks, and any other Kings in history (such as Antiochus Epiphanes B.C. 175-165). Daniel 11:35-43 and he is clearly referring to the end times as recorded in Revelation.

It is historically, and prophetically, incorrect to say that any portion of Daniel 11 was completed after the ministry of the Lord Jesus in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed Jerusalem  and it is an incorrect interpretation of the teaching of the Lord Jesus as recorded in the Olivet discourse.

Eric Stahl was correct and I was correct when I agreed with him.  

Alan

No Eric was not correct. There is no gap after verse 34, it carries straight on through Roman times.

The four kings were:  first their Bible name and then the name which has come down to us from History. Cyrus being the king reigning at the time. Dan 10:1 

1. Ahasuerus: Ezra 4:6  Cambyses, son of Cyrus. not the same Ahasuerus as Esther 1:1 Who was same as No 3

2. Artaxerxes: Ezra 4:6-24 The Psuedo Smerdis, also known as the Magi, reigned for only 8 months (Herodotus) or 1 year (Josephus)  The difference no doubt being the way the Jews calculated the reign of kings.

3. Darius : Ezra 4:6-24 King of Persia  Darius Hystaspis Who was probably the same as Artaxerxes of Nehemiah

4 Xerxes the king who stirred up all nations against Grecia.  He invaded Greece with an army of millions.from all nations including India.

THEN the mighty king , Alexander, would stand up, the first willful king in the chapter.

 

 

[Alan]

No Eric was not correct. There is no gap after verse 34, it carries straight on through Roman times.

THEN the mighty king , Alexander, would stand up, the first willful king in the chapter.

 

 

Invicta,

Eric was indeed correct as he simply believed the scriptures as it is written in Daniel 11:35  as quoted and carefully explined in my above post. Your interpretation that verse 34 is carried to Romans times is both scriptually and historically incorrect.

By the way, if you know your history concerning Alexander the Great you would see that Daniel 11:37 (nor a careful reading of the rest of Daniel 11), cannot apply to Alexander the Great  The history of Alexander the Great is very interesting reading, but, he was not the "willful king" as prophesied by Daniel.   

As this thread is concerning a review of Larkin's book on Revelation I will forego any more time and effort in trying to convince you otherwise.

Brethren,

I will be continuing the review of Larkin's book soon. I will be reviewing the section entitled, "The Interval Between the Sixth and Seventh Seal, " page 65 and following. This section starts with Revelation 7 looking forward to your hearing your thoughts, comments, and questions.

May God bless you all.

Alan

 

 

[beameup]

Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

2 Thess 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

[Invicta]

If you notice carefully what I said, you will see that I said Alexander was the first willful king I didn't give the verse and perhaps I did not word it well.  Alexander was the willful  king in verse three whose kingdom was split into four after his death.