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  1. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 1 Cor 9:20 To a strictly "Jewish" audience, Paul would of course pursuaded them that the "Kingdom" (on earth) was still available to them as a Nation, and opened up the Old Testament to them.
  2. Yes, I'm sure that Paul had occasion to address his kinsmen, as the promised Kingdom (on earth) was "at stake". It is understandable that 2 Peter 3:15-16 would be mentioning this. However, the revelations given to Paul by the risen Christ, from heaven, seem to far surpass any "revelations" given to the other Apostles ("hard to be understood"). And unto the Jews I [Paul] became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 1 Cor 9:20
  3. There is only "one means" of salvation; however, the Body of Christ is SEALED by the Holy Spirit. Abraham "had the gospel preached to him" - Gal 3:8 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them [Israel in the wilderness]: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Hebrews 4:1-2
  4. For example, it is blatantly obvious to some here that some elements of Augustinian (RCC) "Replacement Theology" have even crept into the IFB ranks. As also in all his [Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest [wrestle], as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:16
  5. Ezekiel 40:42 And the four tables were of hewn stone for the burnt offering, of a cubit and an half long, and a cubit and an half broad, and one cubit high: whereupon also they laid the instruments wherewith they slew the burnt offering and the sacrifice. Ezekiel 44:11 Yet they shall be ministers [Levitical priests] in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them. Ezekiel 46:24 Then said he unto me, These are the places of them that boil, where the ministers [priests] of the house [temple] shall boil the sacrifice of the people. Ezekiel 42:13 Then said he unto me, The north chambers and the south chambers, which are before the separate place, they be holy chambers, where the priests that approach unto the LORD shall eat the most holy things: there shall they lay the most holy things, and the meat offering, and the sin offering, and the trespass offering; for the place is holy. Ezekiel 43:24-27 And thou shalt offer them before the LORD, and the priests shall cast salt upon them, and they shall offer them up for a burnt offering unto the LORD. Seven days shalt thou prepare every day a goat for a sin offering: they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without blemish. Seven days shall they purge the altar and purify it; and they shall consecrate themselves. And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the altar, and your peace offerings; and I will accept you, saith the Lord GOD.
  6. I find it somewhat amusing that so many just "assume" (because it is often repeated and repeated to them) that the Tribulation immediately follows the Rapture. I also find it somewhat amusing that many simply "assume" that those saved in the first half of the Tribulation and those saved in the second half (ie: Great Tribulation) are "saved" in the same manner, or that there one and only one "Rapture". If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. Paul, Apostle to the Gentiles 1 Corinthians 14:37-38
  7. There are a lot of "sheep" that just follow whatever their pastor or "church leader" tells them. When I stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ, I don't intend on having excuses like "so and so told me, and he is in a "leadership" position, so it must have been true". These [Bereans] were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:13
  8. An amillennialist would say that passages like Ezekiel 40-48 are merely 'symbolic' and not literal. They would deny what God has said in His Word. Augustinian theology rightly belongs in the Roman Catholic Church. A little leaven leveneth the whole lump
  9. I would suggest that Ezekiel 40-48 shows that temple worship will be reinstated and sacrifices reestablished during the Millennium under Messiah.
  10. Two missions. One was not fulfilled, but was postponed. When the fullness of the gentiles be come in, then Israel will be saved and the original mission will be consummated with the Millennial Kingdom.
  11. I'll just leave this with you to "ponder": Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Colossians 1:25-27 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: How that by revelation he [Jesus] made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: Ephesians 3:2-6 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 3:9 Paul is stating here that this "mystery" was previously hidden and now is revealed directly to Paul by the risen Jesus Christ, from heaven. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PS: If I'm not mistaken, the world will be "ruled with a rod of iron" by Jesus Messiah during the Millennial Kingdom. This surely sounds like Gentiles will be under a rule of LAW to me. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations [Gentiles]: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Rev 2:26-27 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Psalm 2:8-9
  12. And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant [Jesus] to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. Isaiah 49:6 Clearly, Israel will serve Yeshua Messiah and fulfill their destiny, during the Millennium, to be a light to the Gentiles. Jesus obediently ministered to his "kinsmen", and the Kingdom was offered to them; however, the Nation of Israel rejected their destiny.... "for now". Romans 15:8 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you [Israel]: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. Acts 13:46-47 We see that the Jews rejected their mission to be a light to the Gentiles, so the Gospel was taken directly to the Gentiles, and the Gentiles would fulfill the mission that was offered to Israel. However, during the Millennium, Israel will fulfill their mission to be a light unto the Gentiles. [see Romans 11]
  13. I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; Isaiah 42:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. Isaiah 49:6 the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. Isaiah 60:2b-3 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. Luke 2:32 [Simeon in the Temple at the dedication of Jesus by his parents] The Old Testament is loaded with prophecies concerning the Messiah and his Kingdom on earth, and that the glory of Israel will shine unto the Gentiles and that they will be blessed. These prophecies will be fulfilled following the Tribulation. (I guess that some people simply cannot accept that God has a future plan for Israel). And he [Messiah] said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places. Ezekiel 43:7 [Ezekiel is shown all things concerning the Millennial Temple in chapters 40-48]
  14. Because the Jews never fulfilled that "mission". Read your Old Testament. Israel will become a light unto the Gentiles during the Millennium. I started a thread on the "Kingdom". The verses are there. It has not been fulfilled yet. Isaiah 42:6, 49:6, 60:3, Luke 2:32, Acts 13:47, etc. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Romans 11:26-28
  15. Luke 1:32-33 [angel to Mary] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Sounds pretty Jewish to me Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: Romans 15:8
  16. I have no problem discerning the obvious contradictions and the reason that many such "contradictions" exist.
  17. Most "assume" that after the Rapture that the world will immediately go into the Tribulation. hmmmmmmm Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. Acts 2:38 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As also in all his [Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest [wrestle], as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:16 File under: "Wrestling with Paul's Epistles"
  18. A better question might be: are there any epistles that are written to (set aside for) a "future" group of disciples that will have to endure the Tribulation (following the Rapture)? Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Yea, but, but, but: Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
  19. the things that I [Paul] write unto you are the commandments of the Lord 1 Corinth 14:37b As also in all his [Pauls] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:16 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I [Paul] have laid the foundation 1 Cor 3:10a But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. (not from any man... including "the twelve") For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the [direct] revelation of Jesus Christ. Gal 1:11-12
  20. Glad you like my post on "Ambassadors".  beameup

    1. Rosie

      Rosie

      you are truly welcome

  21. 2 Thess 2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2 Thess 2:4b so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2 Thess 2:11b God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
  22. Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 2 Thess 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
  23. But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
  24. It's not unusual for a prophecy to have a "partial fulfillment" and then a yet future "fulfillment". For example, in Acts 2 Peter says "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel". Note that the Holy Spirit did not say that this is a fulfillment of Joel's prophecy, but that it was "spoken of" by the prophet. Paying very close attention to "the details" often reveal things we otherwise might miss or "gloss over". Of course, if you are a preterist, then it is necessary for you to somehow find that all prophecies have been fulfilled.
  25. "Rightly Dividing" really is the key to understanding what applies to you and where you fit into God's plan. I just left a IFB church because the pastor has no clue, he plucks verses out of context, mixes and matches them and "throws them in a blender" and calls that his Spirit inspired "sermon". No wonder his "congregation" are a bunch of immature "sheep" that have no understanding.
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