The 7th Shemita is here

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

On 7/16/2015 at 11:23 PM, John81 said:

There are many good, biblically sound refutations of this whole contemporary shemitah, blood moon, Cahn and associated stuff online and elsewhere.

What are they?  Can you or anyone name 1 or 2 Scriptural refutations of the 8 tetrads on the Feast days since Christ's day?

-- John Henry

[Invicta]

John81 has not been on since June.  Anyone know what happened to him?

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

SIGNS IN THE HEAVENS & BIBLICAL FEASTS DAYS

"And I WILL SHEW WONDERS IN HEAVEN ABOVE, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: THE SUN SHALL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS, AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, before that great and notable day of the lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Acts 2:19-21; cf. Joel 2:30-31)

"And THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, AND IN THE STARS; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring. ... And WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN TO COME TO PASS, THEN LOOK UP, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." (Luke 21:25, 28)

SIGNS & SEASONS

Genesis 1:14, 16:  "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: ... And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."

The word "seasons" in verse 14 above is translated from the same Hebrew word as is translated both "feasts" and "seasons" in Leviticus 23:4 below.  It is translated as "set feasts" in Numbers 29:39, 1 Chronicles 23:31,  2 Chronicles 31:3,  Ezra 3:5,  Nehemiah. 10:33. The basic meaning of the Hebrew word is "set time" or "appointed time" and is translated as such in Genesis 17:21, 18:14, 21:2; Exodus 9:5, 23:15; 1 Samuel 13:8; Jeremiah 46:17; Daniel 8:19, 11:27, 29 (cf. Ex. 34:18; Num. 9:2, 3, 7, 13, 28:2; Josh. 8:14; Job 30:23).

Leviticus 23:4:  "These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons."

The names of the 7 appointed or set feasts of the LORD are enumerated in Leviticus 23. (cf. Ex. 23:14-17; Deut. 16:16; 2 Chron. 8:13)

 

Edited October 22, 2016 by JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

8 LUNAR TETRADS FALLING ON

THE BIBLICAL FEAST DAYS

SINCE THE DAY OF CHRIST

A Tetrad is 4 total Lunar eclipses in a row without any partial Lunar eclipses between them.  Only 8 Tetrads have fallen on Biblical feast days since Christ's day.  Eight in the Bible is the number of new beginnings (1 Pet. 3:20; 2 Pet. 2:5; Lev. 12:3 Acts 7:8; cf. Rom. 2:29; et. al.).  There will be no more like this for 549 years.

 

 

 

 

 

FOR MORE INFO SEE: http://prophecy.landmarkbiblebaptist.net/Signs/8Tetrads.html

 

 

Edited October 22, 2016 by JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com

[Invicta]

There are lies, there are D..n lies and there are statistics.

Edited October 22, 2016 by Invicta

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

On 10/23/2016 at 2:41 AM, Invicta said:

There are lies, there are D..n lies and there are statistics.

There is also the infallible and immutable word of God. 

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A few questions:

1. Has knowledge increased, both Biblical and scientific, in these last days?

Daniel 12:4:  "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."

2. Was one of the Almighty's purposes for the lights of the heaven for them to be for signs and seasons?

Genesis 1:14, 16:  "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: ... And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."

3. Is the Hebrew word for "seasons" in Genesis 1:14 above also translated set time and time appointed? 

Leviticus 23:4:  "These are the feasts [Hebrew: moade] of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons [moade]." (cf. Lev. 23: 2, 37. 44; Ex. 13:10; Num. 9:2-3, 7, 13, 28:2; Deut. 16:6)

Exodus 23:15:  "Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed [moade] of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt ..."

Psalms 102:13:  "Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time [moade], is come." (cf. Gen. 17:21, 21:2; Ex. 9:5; 1 Sam. 9:24, 13:8; 2 Sam. 20:5)

Psalms 104:19:  "He appointed the moon for seasons [moade]: the sun knoweth his going down." (cf. 1 Chron. 23:31; 2 Chron. 2:4, 8:13, 31:3; Ezra 3:5; Neh. 10:33; Isa. 1:14; Ezek. 45:17; Hos. 2:11, 10:33)

4. Did God foretell that there would be signs and wonders in the sun moon and stars "before" the day of the Lord come?

Luke 21:10-11, 25, 28:  "Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:  And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and GREAT SIGNS SHALL THERE BE FROM HEAVEN. ... And THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, AND IN THE STARS; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring. ... And WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN TO COME TO PASS, THEN LOOK UP, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

Acts 2:19-21: "And I WILL SHEW WONDERS IN HEAVEN ABOVE, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: THE SUN SHALL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS, AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, BEFORE that great and notable day of the lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." (cf. Joel 2:30-31)

5. Is "the day of the Lord" the last week of Daniel 9:27, the day of God's wrath?

1 Thessalonians 5:1-5:  "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.  2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.  3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.  4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.  5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness."

Isaiah 26:2-4, 19-21:  "Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in.  3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.  4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength: ... 19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.  20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.  21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain." (cf. 1 Pet. 2:9; 1 Cor. 15:51-52; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; Rev. 4:1; Matt. 24:15, 21, 37-42; Rev. 2:22, 7:14)

Zephaniah 1:14-15, 2:1-3:  "The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.  15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, ... 1 Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired;  2 Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD’S anger come upon you.  3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD’S anger."

Now, in all honesty, can anyone who knows that Almighty JEHOVAH set the sun, moon and stars in motion, say that it was not He that caused the consecutive eclipses and other astronomical phenomenon to fall on His Biblical feast days, and that they are definitely signs from Him?

 

 

[Invicta]

2 hours ago, JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com said:

There is also the infallible and immutable word of God. 

There is also the human imagination.

"And THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, AND IN THE STARS; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring. ... And WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN TO COME TO PASS, THEN LOOK UP, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." (Luke 21:25, 28)

Refers to the time before the Roman conquest.

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

8 minutes ago, Invicta said:

"And THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, AND IN THE STARS; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring. ... And WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN TO COME TO PASS, THEN LOOK UP, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." (Luke 21:25, 28)

Refers to the time before the Roman conquest.

So you deny the Scriptural evidence and charge me with imagining that the Bible says what it says concerning signs in heaven. You also deny that the 4 lunar eclipses that occurred in 2014 / 2015 occurred on Passover and Tabernacles? And further say, "There are lies, there are D..n lies and there are statistics."  Denial of the facts is not enough, my friend.  Bring forth Scriptural evidence not pontification.

Your Protestant doctrine of Preterism has you very confused.  Pastor Sam Adams of a Baptist Church in Florida wrote this in his introduction to a refutation of the unscriptural doctrine of Preterism.  He says it "... is a system of non-literal Biblical interpretation which generally holds the position that all Bible prophecy, including all but the last 2 chapters of Revelation, was fulfilled before the present church age. According to preterists the 'great tribulation' referred to by Jesus in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 and detailed in Revelation 6-19 was fulfilled in AD 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem and the dispersion of the Jews by Rome. Preterists deny that the Lord Jesus will ever reign visibly and bodily on earth and believe that God has forever put Israel aside and has no further plan or purpose for national Israel."

Is that what you believe?!

 

 

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

[Invicta]

33 minutes ago, JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com said:

So you deny the Scriptural evidence and charge me with imagining that the Bible says what it says concerning signs in heaven. You also deny that the 4 lunar eclipses that occurred in 2014 / 2015 occurred on Passover and Tabernacles? And further say, "There are lies, there are D..n lies and there are statistics."  Denial of the facts is not enough, my friend.  Bring forth Scriptural evidence not pontification.

Your Protestant doctrine of Preterism has you very confused.  Pastor Sam Adams of a Baptist Church in Florida wrote this in his introduction to a refutation of the unscriptural doctrine of Preterism.  He says it "... is a system of non-literal Biblical interpretation which generally holds the position that all Bible prophecy, including all but the last 2 chapters of Revelation, was fulfilled before the present church age. According to preterists the 'great tribulation' referred to by Jesus in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 and detailed in Revelation 6-19 was fulfilled in AD 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem and the dispersion of the Jews by Rome. Preterists deny that the Lord Jesus will ever reign visibly and bodily on earth and believe that God has forever put Israel aside and has no further plan or purpose for national Israel."

Is that what you believe?!

 

 

No I absolutely don't believe that I am not a preterist. Eric.  Never was .  But it is foolish to deny that some things have already been fulfilled.  

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

1 hour ago, Invicta said:

There is also the human imagination.

"And THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, AND IN THE STARS; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring. ... And WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN TO COME TO PASS, THEN LOOK UP, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." (Luke 21:25, 28)

Refers to the time before the Roman conquest.

If you don't believe the Protestant doctrines of Preterism, why did you say, "Luke 21:25, 28 refers to the time before the Roman conquest?"  That is Preterism, my friend.

Edited October 24, 2016 by JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com

[Invicta]

10 minutes ago, JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com said:

If you don't believe the Protestant doctrines of Preterism, why did you say, "Luke 21:25, 28 refers to the time before the Roman conquest?"  That is Preterism, my friend.

By reading the scriptures and not Brethren teachings,

 

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

Just now, Invicta said:

By reading the scriptures and not Brethren teachings,

No, Christ's prophecies of Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21, all spoken by the Lord during His last week before His crucifixion, were end time prophesies, with the exception of the destruction of the Temple (Matt 24:1-2; Mk. 13:1-2; Lk 21:4-5) which was fulfilled by the Roman General Titus in 70 AD. 

In Matthew 24 the Lord answered similarly to the apostles question, "... Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" (Matt. 24:3)  That is, 1) when will the Temple be destroyed and 2) what would be the sign of His return.  The Temple was destroyed just 40 years later, but the signs of His return were far in the future.

One of the future signs was the sign of the "fig tree" which symbolized the return of Israel (Hosea 9:10; Joel 1:2-7).

Matthew 24:32-34: "Now learn a parable of THE FIG TREE; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS, TILL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED."

Luke adds "... and all the trees" to his narrative.

Luke 21:29-32:  "And he spake to them a parable; Behold THE FIG TREE, and ALL THE TREES;  When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.   So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.   Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS AWAY, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED."

This brings us back to the tetrads.  The 1949 / 1950 Tetrad heralded the return of Israel back to her homeland. But what about Luke's account of "all the trees" (Lk. 21:29)?

1. On New Years day of 1948 BENELUX [BElgium, NEtherlands & LUXembourg] was born. The treaty forming the "BENELUX Customs Union" came into effect on 1 January. BENELUX was the embryo of the modern European Union (EU) and the EU is the model for the other 9 trade areas (AL, AU, EAU, GCC, PIF, ASEAN, NAFTA, SAARC, UNASUR) that have been or are now being formed (Dan 2:41-42, 7:7, 20, 24; Rev 13:1, 17:3, 7, 12, 16). "[Then on March 18th of] 1948, Britain, France and the Benelux countries signed the Pact of Brussels, a vague commitment to set up a joint defensive system. No surrender of independence or sovereignty was involved, ... albeit ... the wording did speak of the purpose of encouraging the progressive integration of Europe. ... They decided to widen the Brussels Treaty of 1948 so that Italy and Germany could join in an enlarged Western European Union which was created in 1955." (Watts, Duncan; The European Union; Edinburgh University Press; 2008; pp. 29, 36)

2. On January 4th 1948, Britain granted independence to Burma (now Myanmar).

3. On April 3rd 1948, President Harry Truman signed the Marshall Plan, which authorized $5 billion in aid to rebuild 16 nations of Europe (Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom).

4. On April 30th 1948, the charter of the Organization of American States (OAS) was signed in Bogota, Colombia. Now there are 35 member nations. At it's beginning the OAS had these 21 members: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela.

5. On May 27th 1948, the Provisional Central Government of Vietnam, partially autonomous of the French, was established during the end of French rule. It has been called Pre-Vietnam.

6. On June 7th 1948, the Communists completed the takeover of Czechoslovakia with the resignation of President Eduard Benes. They began the takeover on February 25th with a coup d’etat.

7. On June 21st 1948, Lord Mountbatten resigned as Viceroy of India signaling the total withdrawal of the British Empire from India.

8. On August 15th 1948, the Republic of Korea (South Korea) declared independence.

9. On September 9th the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea) emerged from Soviet occupation, with Kim Il-sung as prime minister.

10. In 1948 Chiang Kai Shek evacuated the Republic of China from the mainland to the Island of Formosa renaming it, Taiwan, and declaring itself the legitimate government of China.

11. On September 1st 1948 the Chinese Communists formed the North China People's Republic.

 

 

[DaveW]

7 hours ago, Invicta said:

By reading the scriptures and not Brethren teachings,

 

This again.

This has been clearly covered in this site that you constant accusation of "brethren teaching" are false.

These trachings were around long before the brethren existed, and you know it.

Stop with the lying accusations.

[JohnBaptistHenry@yahoo.com]

4 hours ago, DaveW said:

This again.

This has been clearly covered in this site that you constant accusation of "brethren teaching" are false.

These trachings were around long before the brethren existed, and you know it.

Stop with the lying accusations.

Oh, so Invicta is talking about John Nelson Darby of the original Plymouth Brethren? OK I get it now.  I thought he was talking about Baptist brethren.

No, Invicta, I have never read behind Darby, but am aware he was a Dispensationalist. He also taught on astronomical signs in heaven? If not what does a Protestant offshoot denomination have to do with the subject at hand?