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Repent, in itself, cannot possibly mean to turn from or feel sorry for sin... Unless you are willing to call God a sinner "And God REPENTED of the evil that he said he would do unto them and did it not." Jonah 3:10.

 

Look up the word repentance in the KJV. God repents more than anyone else in the entire bible. Repent simply means to change your mind. If we had to 'turn from' or 'be willing to turn' from our sins to be saved, that would be works salvation. Anyone who teaches lordship salvation, or repent of your sins salvation is an heretic out of hell.

 

Turning from your sins is works.

 

"And God saw their WORKS, that they turned from their evil way." Jonah 3:10

it depends upon what you mean by turn from your sins, if you mean stop those sins, then yes that's a work, but you have to repent of sin in order to be saved, in that you must be willing to change your mind about sin as something that you desire to be saved from, The Rich Young Ruler went away from Jesus sorrowful because of his sin of covetousness, he should have turned from his covetousness and turned to Christ for salvation, instead he went away sorrowful because of his love of possessions.

 

Some people love their sin too much to really turn to Christ, this love of sin and refusing to turn away from it keeps people from being born again.

 

You absolutely have to repent of sin to be saved, no one will be every truly be saved without the Spirit convicting of sin and a turning to Christ for salvation.

 

By the way, the bible says repentance is a gift from God. 

 

2Ti_2:25  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 

 

Repentance is a grace that God offers to all who will choose to accept it, any person can repent of their sin if God draws them in conviction... many reject this drawing unfortunately, but accepting his drawing and the repentance is not a work.

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Repent, in itself, cannot possibly mean to turn from or feel sorry for sin... Unless you are willing to call God a sinner "And God REPENTED of the evil that he said he would do unto them and did it not." Jonah 3:10.

 

Look up the word repentance in the KJV. God repents more than anyone else in the entire bible. Repent simply means to change your mind. If we had to 'turn from' or 'be willing to turn' from our sins to be saved, that would be works salvation. Anyone who teaches lordship salvation, or repent of your sins salvation is an heretic out of hell.

 

Turning from your sins is works.

 

"And God saw their WORKS, that they turned from their evil way." Jonah 3:10

 

Yes, but this is a 'heart' turning, when in reference to salvation.

And anything from the heart is not works.

Repentance is the after effect of believing with all your heart; and you do

choose to resist sin, because you are now in that 'kind of nature', because, at the moment of truly

believing, you are born again, and have changed into something you weren't a moment before, a new creature.

Following repentance comes remission. Because you have repented, or amended your ways, choosing not to 'fall' into the same ol' sinful ways

like you used to, the after effect of that brings about the 'lessening' of you deciding to choose sin over OBedience to God and his ways.

Hence, your lifestyle of 'sinning' has gone into remission, not disappeared, but like cancer after treatment, your sins are 'in remission',

not gone, but not in control of you, and, Lord willing, your OBedience will increase and overcome the desire to sin.

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Hi, I was going to start a thread about this, partly for some feed back, since it is one thing to come up with a new understanding of something from Scripture, but it is another thing to prove it from scripture, that takes time.

I have read quite a few good comments ,Jordan Kurecki said 'The word repent means a change of mind, heart, or emotion about something, repentance is not ceasing from sin, penance or paying for sin, reformation, or turning over a new leaf. Repentance is simply a change of our heart and attitude towards something.' I agree with this, apparently even the English word repent in its early recorded usage meant only remorse. wretched   said 'The turning away from sin part however still smacks somewhat of works.' I agree with that also, if we could turn away from sin then we would be doing something that no one could do before.

Ac 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Ac 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Ac 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Ac 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

This is the account in Acts where some of the Jews were professing to be Christian teachers and were teaching something which was VERY similar to Lordship Salvation, ie

Ac 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

Ac 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

Change the word 'circumcise' for 'christen' to put it in a modern context.

Paul said of  this matter Ga 1:9  ...If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.'

Ga 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Ga 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

To say we need to turn from sins is like saying we need to keep the law.

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Change the word 'circumcise' for 'christen' to put it in a modern context.

 

I was amening most of the post until I saw this line. What is this about?

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I am TR only, and I read the AV, as such I generally trust

Strong's Greek Dictionary
3340. metanoeo
Search for G3340 in KJVSL metanoew metanoeo met-an-o-eh'-o

from 3326 and 3539; to think differently or afterwards, i.e. reconsider (morally, feel compunction):--repent.

So when I see 'Repent' in the NT I read it as 'change your mind'.

This could mean different things in different contexts.

If we are talking about a God fearing Jew, they would already agree that the Law is good, so they don't need to repent about sins, but they would need to repent about how to be saved, ie trust no more in sacrifices of Moses Law and trust in Jesus as atonement.  So the Jews had to have Heb 6:1 'repentance from dead works', and have ...'faith toward God,' Joh 14:1 .. ye believe in God, believe also in me.

If we were talking about pagan sinners who think all manner of sin is ok, they might need to change their mind about that as well before they understand that they need a saviour. Ps 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me: This leads us to John the Baptist.

Mt 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: I think Repentance here means a change of mind, or the ability to 'see', they need to be 'illuminated' by the true light of the world, I think John perceived that they weren't genuine believers. God has blinded them and only God can open their eyes, so who's eyes will he open? the meek, the contrite in heart, those in who's heart is no guile.

 

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I was amening most of the post until I saw this line. What is this about?

​Hello, wretched, I was meaning that Lordship salvation isn't scriptural, it is similar to the damnable heresy which they were teaching there in Acts 15, people might not notice how similar it is because Lordship Salvationists don't teach Circumcision, but some of them do teach sprinkling infants in stead of circumcision, which is just as bad or even worse. can you agree with that, or do you agree with sprinkling infants?

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​Hello, wretched, I was meaning that Lordship salvation isn't scriptural, it is similar to the damnable heresy which they were teaching there in Acts 15, people might not notice how similar it is because Lordship Salvationists don't teach Circumcision, but some of them do teach sprinkling infants in stead of circumcision, which is just as bad or even worse. can you agree with that, or do you agree with sprinkling infants?

​Oh no sir, I get it now, thanks

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Mt 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

I would interpret this as saying to him who cannot believe, ‘go and get your heart right so that God may open your eyes and thus you will have a change of heart and see the truth of the Gospel’ So if one can't believe, one must bring forth fruits unto repentance/the faith, if one can believe one sould simply believe/receive and enter into the kingdom through the new birth.

I don’t believe that old testament saints were saved, (Heb 11:39 Eph 4:8 Mt 27:52-3) but that the law was to lead them to Faith in Christ, but that was only given after Christ had ascended to the father. However the following scriptures show what is meant by ‘fruits meet for repentance’

Ps 50:23 Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.
Ps 34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
Ps 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
Joh 1:47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!

Ga 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Ga 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

So this right heart would be the result of the sanctifying work of the Spirit, by which means we are elect. not saved. 1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, 2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Isa 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
Isa 40:5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

as regards election it is by a 'change of mind' :Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Hope that makes some sense, hopping for some constructive criticism. (I don't suppose I need to ask.)

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Repentance from sin certainly is taught in the Word of God.

In the Old Testament:

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

The word "turn" in the above verse is transltated from  the Hebrew word "shuwb" and means repentance.  It can also be found in the book of Ezekiel...

Ezekiel 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

Notice, in the verse above, the same Hebrew word for "Repent" is also used for the word "turn." 

In the New Testament:
Revelation 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

Jesus gave Jezebel space to repent of what?  Not believing in God?  NO!  He gave her space to repent of her fornication.

Repentance is more than a change of mind.  It is also a turning from sin.  If one does not turn from sin, God will not hear his prayers.

Psalms 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
 

Ezekiel 33:14-15 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

​in response to Ezekiel 8:30- Have you turned away from all transgression?

if this verse is talking about Salvation, then who is saved?

 

same thing with 33:14-15- how much lawful and right must we do?

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As I see it there is basicly TWO COVENANTS The old covenant was of works and was basicly the created order which Adam was under and which to Moses was spelt out.

Ro 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Ro 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Ro 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

So all were created subject to the natural law of creation, this is what God taught the Isrealites, The old covenant was related to this and was of works, ie, 'do this' and live long on the earth.

The New Covenant was promised to Abraham in advance and prophesied by Jeremiah and was wrought and brought in by Christ. The New is not like the old, it is not of works but it is of faith. And legitimately you can have one or the other not both*, one is of earth, which is old and ready to pass away, the other is heavenly and is entered into by faith and lasts for ever.

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One not the other!

*Ro 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Ro 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Ro 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Ro 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Ro 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

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Have we all noticed that Rom 10 is contrasting the Law to Grace, or the Old Covenant to the New?

Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Ro 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
Ro 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise.......

Unfortunately many are been taught that the old and new covenants can go together, this is in an attempt to nullify the gospel.

the fact that we need to die to the old and be born into the new must be understood, before repentance can be understood and put in context. The Gospel can be lost due to wrong teaching.

Who has noticed that in Johns Gospel, which is specifically an evangelical outreach letter [Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.] to the unsaved, the word Repentance does not appear?

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As I see it there is basicly TWO COVENANTS The old covenant was of works and was basicly the created order which Adam was under and which to Moses was spelt out.

Ro 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Ro 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Ro 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

So all were created subject to the natural law of creation, this is what God taught the Isrealites, The old covenant was related to this and was of works, ie, 'do this' and live long on the earth.

The New Covenant was promised to Abraham in advance and prophesied by Jeremiah and was wrought and brought in by Christ. The New is not like the old, it is not of works but it is of faith. And legitimately you can have one or the other not both*, one is of earth, which is old and ready to pass away, the other is heavenly and is entered into by faith and lasts for ever.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

One not the other!

*Ro 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Ro 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Ro 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Ro 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Ro 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Have we all noticed that Rom 10 is contrasting the Law to Grace, or the Old Covenant to the New?

Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Ro 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
Ro 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise.......

Unfortunately many are been taught that the old and new covenants can go together, this is in an attempt to nullify the gospel.

the fact that we need to die to the old and be born into the new must be understood, before repentance can be understood and put in context. The Gospel can be lost due to wrong teaching.

Who has noticed that in Johns Gospel, which is specifically an evangelical outreach letter [Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.] to the unsaved, the word Repentance does not appear?

http://www.wayoflife.org/database/john316repentance.html

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you have quoted my post and posted some verses from Ezekiel, but you haven't made a point as such, I read that chapter I looks to me like it is talking about the old covenant which God made with Isreal, [or a sub covenant within the creative covenant] which they are judged under, then at the end of the chapter the New Covenant is promised. Under which Israel will have sinful daughters but won't be judgemental toward them them.

Eze 16:60 Nevertheless I will remember my covenant [old] with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant. [new]
Eze 16:61 Then thou shalt remember thy ways, and be ashamed, when thou shalt receive thy sisters, thine elder and thy younger: and I will give them unto thee for daughters, but not by thy covenant.
Eze 16:62 And I will establish my covenant [new] with thee; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD:
Eze 16:63 That thou mayest remember, and be confounded, and never open thy mouth any more because of thy shame [Eph 4:32], when I am pacified toward thee for all that thou hast done, saith the Lord GOD.

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In the case of John the Baptist, "repent and be baptized" applied to Israelites.  They had a lot to repent about, as they were chosen by God and given the Scriptures and the Prophets.  This message was to prepare Israel for their Messiah.  So, in this case, "repentance" required "works" (as illustrated in the Gospels and Acts, as well as the Hebrew Epistles... like James). 

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In the case of John the Baptist, "repent and be baptized" applied to Israelites.  They had a lot to repent about, as they were chosen by God and given the Scriptures and the Prophets.  This message was to prepare Israel for their Messiah.  So, in this case, "repentance" required "works" (as illustrated in the Gospels and Acts, as well as the Hebrew Epistles... like James). 

Repentance never required works for salvation.

Works was just the result of obedience, in the heart of one who heard and believed the truth about Jesus being the Christ.

In the 1611 edition of the KJB there is a note explaining repentance in Matthew 3:8 - "meet for repentance" means "answerable to amendment of life", see below -

Matthew Chapter 2 Original 1611 Bible Scan

 

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Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38

 

That verse sounds like they were to be baptized for salvation, but I hope everyone here agrees that this was not the case. The way it was explained to me in Bible college, was that the word "for" sometimes means "suiting the purposes of" "because of" or "on account of" . If that be the case, then the verse  should be understood to say "Be baptized "on account of" the remission of sins.. or "be baptized because of the remission of sins...." Likewise, the meaning of the phrase "bring fruits meet for repentance" could mean 'because of' or 'suiting the purposes of' repentance". At any rate, we know that repentance in faith must come first before any 'fruit' is produced.

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Repentance never required works for salvation.

 

"Repent and be baptized" was the message to Israel.  Peter continues in Acts with the proclamation of John the Baptist. 

This command is for Israel.  This command does not apply to the Body of Christ.  When you try to apply instructions for

Israel to the Body of Christ, then you err. 

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"Repent and be baptized" was the message to Israel.  Peter continues in Acts with the proclamation of John the Baptist. 

This command is for Israel.  This command does not apply to the Body of Christ.  When you try to apply instructions for

Israel to the Body of Christ, then you err. 

  Opinions are such funny little things - you think they mean something, but they just don't.

  When a person believes in God with all their heart, like the people who were at Johns baptism and the people that Peter was preaching to in Acts 2, they were all believing with all their heart in the Messiah they were to know, or knew, as Jesus Christ, because he IS God.

  He that hath the Son hath life, he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. The 'race' didn't matter when it came or comes to salvation, it is by believing in Jesus Christ with all your heart that matters, and anyone can do that when they have heard the preaching of the word of God by God's own 'chosen vessels' like John the Baptist and Peter. They preached the same gospel, just from two viewpoints in time. John before the cross, Peter after. If one is to believe that the Gospel was different in Peters 'view' compared to Pauls 'view', you create a mess. Two brides. Two 'heavens'. Two types of Fatherly love. Etc.

  And that falls down at the feet of truth as false teaching.

Edited by Genevanpreacher

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"Repent and be baptized" was the message to Israel.  Peter continues in Acts with the proclamation of John the Baptist. 

This command is for Israel.  This command does not apply to the Body of Christ.  When you try to apply instructions for

Israel to the Body of Christ, then you err. 

So was/were the Israel you are referring to not the "Body of Christ" then?

That makes them not of the church and not saved then.

You do err, not knowing the scriptures.

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Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38

 

That verse sounds like they were to be baptized for salvation, but I hope everyone here agrees that this was not the case. The way it was explained to me in Bible college, was that the word "for" sometimes means "suiting the purposes of" "because of" or "on account of" . If that be the case, then the verse  should be understood to say "Be baptized "on account of" the remission of sins.. or "be baptized because of the remission of sins...." Likewise, the meaning of the phrase "bring fruits meet for repentance" could mean 'because of' or 'suiting the purposes of' repentance". At any rate, we know that repentance in faith must come first before any 'fruit' is produced.

Notice the proper punctuation in Acts 2:38 from the 1611 printing and compare it to your common KJB - the word 'repent' connects to 'remission of sins', not baptism -

 Acts Chapter 2 Original 1611 Bible Scan

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You do err, not knowing the scriptures

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Here in Acts 3, Peter is preaching the Gospel of the (Earthly) Kingdom to Israel.  The Messiah must remain in "heaven" until Israel repents.
Heaven is the destiny of the Body of Christ.  Israel will receive its King & Priest when they repent.  They will repent at the end of the Tribulation, and Jesus will return to earth. 
 
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.  Exo 19:6a
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You do err, not knowing the scriptures

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Here in Acts 3, Peter is preaching the Gospel of the (Earthly) Kingdom to Israel.  The Messiah must remain in "heaven" until Israel repents.
Heaven is the destiny of the Body of Christ.  Israel will receive its King & Priest when they repent.  They will repent at the end of the Tribulation, and Jesus will return to earth. 
 
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.  Exo 19:6a

:lol:

 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 

14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations; according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
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The greek word metanoia means 'change of mind'

The Word Repent in  English means sorrow

And Repent in theology means sorrow and penitence, apparently the early use of the English word repent only meant sorrow.

I think we need to take the word to mean 'change of mind' because that is what it means, every time we read in the new testament and look at the context.

For example Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

This was written the Hebrew Christians, it means that they are to change their mind about trusting in works of the law.

Ro 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. This means if God saves you your saved for good, if He calls you you are called for good. ... etc. check the context and the Bible word, metanoia  not the historical distorted word.

God Bless.

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A moral person would not relay need to repent about his views on the Law, he would know good works were good works and sins were sins, he would need to repent about what he believed concerning the Gospel of Jesus Christ in relation to good works.

An moral person who was a drunk and a murderer, and thought nothing of it, would also need to repent about his views on sins and his views of the gospel and the law of God.

I don't think 'Repent and believe the gospel' means turn from your sins and believe the gospel, otherwise that would be the same as saying 'keep the law and believe the gospel, and Paul prayed that preachers of that gospel would be cursed. Acts 15 & Gal 2

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Is repenting work? 

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

No, it is not a work to reconsider something, or to change ones mind, one could do this while laying in bed half asleep, or while hanging on a tree being put to death.

Edited by Old-Pilgrim
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