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Jordan Kurecki

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  1. So you think Tyndale was so stupid that he didnt know that Christ was not an Easter (in our modern sense) lamb? Perhaps William Tyndale understand the word Easter differently then 21st Century English Speakers....
  2. Tyndale used Passover and Easter interchangably in his text. In fact Tyndales NT said Christ is our Easter lamb. The anglo saxon NT used the word Easter every place where the Greek word “Pascha” was used. Easter is the same as Passover in Acts 12. And no the days of unleavened bread starting does not mean it could not have been Passover. Ezekiel 45:21 KJV [21] In the first month , in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten. I dont think William Tyndale was so stupid that he thought Christ wasn’t the passover lamb. Its clear from his translation, and the anglo saxon bible that Easter at one point in the English language was a synonym for passover. This rediculous idea about a Pagan holiday being called by the same Greek name in NT time as the Jewish Passover is nonsense and it makes it hard for people to take us seriously when we defend the KJV. Easter in Acts 12 is not a pagan holiday and neither is it a “goof”, It was simply a synonym for Passover in the English language at that time. According to Webster 1828 E'ASTER, n. A festival of the christian church observed in commemoration of our Savior's resurrection. It answers to the pascha or passover of the Hebrews, and most nations still give it this name, pascha, pask, paque. According to Smiths Bible dictionary Easter. Act 12:4. In the earlier English versions, Easter has been frequently used as the translation of pascha, (Passover). In the Authorized Version, Passover was substituted in all passages but this; and in the new Revision, Passover is used here. See Passover. Easton: In the early English versions this word was frequently used as the translation of the Greek pascha (the Passover). When the Authorized Version (1611) was formed, the word “passover” was used in all passages in which this word pascha occurred, except in Acts 12
  3. Agreed. I would love a modern english equivilent of the KJV. Sadly most attempts have done beyond that.
  4. I have dealt with Roby on another board several times. I have already refuted him on Easter (Though I personally disagree that Easter in Acts 12 is a Pagan holiday, my position is the word Easter was a synonym for Passover when the KJV was translated) Roby will continue to spout his same old talking points over and over and over again even after being refuted and so I refuse to engage him on this topic. My suggestion is that he should be banned because he is not willing to have an honest discussion on the KJV but has his own agenda that he wants to push.
  5. I live in the Southwest Suburbs and go to a great Bible believing and teaching church in Tinley Park. I invite you to come: https://www.calvarybaptisttinley.com For me, my Church was instrumental in God changing me, and that is the way God intended for the Church to be. Please listen to this very short message about Church that I put out years ago for new and growing Christians: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Cyo2ykALwGd28zR3lYWldDaWM/view?usp=sharing If you have a problem playing the file, just download it and it will play. https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/church_membership.html
  6. I am of the opinion that it is a combination of both positions that is the truth. I think there is a lot of shallowness and hardness in IFB that is driving people away, but I also acknowledge that there is a lot of worldly temptations that is also drawing them away. I do not think we have an either or situation here, but rather a "these are both problems" scenario.
  7. It's likely that the "Earth being turned upside down" is a symbolic way of saying that the earth will be devastated by judgments. I see no contextual or linguistic evidence to support a "pole shift".
  8. Francis Chan teaches that Baptism is how someone gets their sins forgiven. That is false teaching and yes he should be avoided. See Ephesians 2:8-9 and 1:12-14. also study the Thief on the cross
  9. Matthew 12:38-40 King James Version (KJV) 38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The Pharisees and Scribes had already seen plenty of signs from Jesus throughout his ministry, but they hated that he taught against their unbiblical traditions. Jesus said that an evil and adulterous generation seeks a sign. The scribes and Pharisees had everything they needed in the Old Testament to know that Jesus was the Messiah, See Mic 5:2, Is 7:14 for examples. It seems that the asking of a sign was not really that they genuinely wanted to know if Jesus was the Messiah, but they were seeking to try and catch him doing something they could condemn, at one point they tried to condemn Jesus for healing on the sabbath day. Jesus refers to Jonah as a sign to them. Jonah spend 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of a fish that God had swallow him up and then ultimately it spit him back out. This was to be a picture or sign that pointed to the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Read Jonah chapter 1 and 2 to see more about Jonah. The point of the passage is that we shouldn't ask God to give us miraculous signs to validate truth about God. We are told that 2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: We have everything that we need to know about God in the scriptures, the Bible. There are too many people out there that depend upon their experiences and "signs" to tell them what is true or not. Oftentimes these people end up believing things contrary to God's word and God NEVER contradicts his word. If you have an experience or a "sign" and that sign or experience teaches you something that the Bible says the opposite, your sign or experience is not from God. The point is, we have too many people that want God to prove himself to them, But God already has done that in the word of God, the word of God is full of fulfilled prophecies and the Bible tells you everything you need to know. When kids in my Jr. Church ask me about off topic random stuff such as where did Cain get his wife, I tell them that God didn't tell us, and since God didn't tell us then it's not important. So if you need to know something, God put it in his word, and if it isn't in God's word, then you don't need to worry about it.
  10. Well, in this one scenario I believe Jesus chose to use the word sleep because he knew he was about to raise her from the dead therefore he described her as sleeping because he was going to "wake" her. But typically sleep is just an idiomatic way of saying death. I did not say it always means that, because context and cultural usage defines the meaning of words and you can't force the meaning of it one context on all other contexts. You can disagree with me if you want, but the Bible nowhere teaches the concept of soul sleep, only a metaphorical word in place of the word death in some cases.
  11. When you see the word sleep in the Bible it's a euphemism/idiom for death, kinda like how when someone dies and we say they "passed away" or "kicked the bucket".
  12. I will grant that FBWWM seems like a less restrictive board than BIMI
  13. The handbooks of boards says a whole lot about them. I saw many of the things Alan mentioned already in some handbooks.
  14. I believe CMC is a worthy mention for this thread.
  15. Of course they always have “reasons” for their rules. The rule book will tell you something about the board though. I am going to just use facial hair for one example, the bible absolutely is not against facial hair, therefore if a board is going to make a rule about that it tells me they think thats important. If a board is going to tell you that you cant have facial hair what else will they dictate? To me that tells me that they feel strongly about something that is not biblical or significant in the big picture of missions. To me it seems like a bit of a legalistic spirit. I am yet to see any mission board admit that they are controlling. Every mission board says that they are “local church”. But the proof is in the pudding when you get down to the nitty gritty details. Listen, if someones wants to give up some of their autonomy for the help and aid of a mission board then thats fine, I wont condemn anyone for that. But for me personally I would not go with a Board that gives evidence to me that they will try to micromanage my ministry and life. Unfortunately there is definately a legalistic spirit out there amongst Independant Baptists, There is a serious problem with people pushing their own personal preferences on others and I see this with mission boards. I have just watched how one unnamed mission board has tried to destroy a godly missionary and his family and get them kicked out of the country simply because he did not agree with their missions philosophy and he wasnt even under their board. I am not against Mission boards, but we need to be honest and realize that many missions boards do restrict the missionaries freedom. You have to realize you are trading some freedom for help from the board. And of course you can talk to the people from the boards, but realize they are probably not going to tell you the negative consequences of being with their board and they are of course going to have “reasons” for all of their rules. I am not trying to attack any mission boards or person. I respect Pat Gordon and what he is doing. For me though I looked into them and it wasnt a fit for me. Maybe it is for someone else, but not for me.
  16. Col 2:16 clearly refutes the idea of NT believers being obligated to keep the Sabbath.
  17. If I was you I would ask to see their guidebook/handbook, that is what turned me off from BIMI and FBWWM, I just saw so many rules that restricted the missionaries freedom and many of the rules had nothing to do with the Bible. Unfortunately today, people sometimes think their own philosophy of missions is the only way to do missions, there are many things the Bible does not address but certain mission boards and missionaries feel so strongly about. I have personally seen where missionaries and boards try to Lord it over another missionary. But you will have to decide for yourself what is best for you.
  18. Personally, I would avoid Boards like BIMI and FBWWM, I believe they try to excersize too much control over the missionary. I dont believe its a mission boards place to micro manage things like facial hair, what you can do with your money on the mission field, etc. I am personally going to go with All Points Baptist Mission because they give dont attempt to control things that they dont really have scriptural authority to control. Pat Gordon is a good man and Im not saying you shouldnt go with FBWWM, but personally I dont want a body outside of my local church dictating non biblical things to me. As to where God wants you to go, I believe if God gives you a burden or desire for a specific place, follow that desire, Jesus already said Go into all the world, so there is your “call”. As long as you are qualified biblically then I say follow God and he will give you the desires of your heart. I am praying this year that God will call 100 people to unreached people groups. Maybe you are one of them, please listen to this short (12 minutes) radio broadcast I did on the topic of missions and unreached people groups. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Cyo2ykALwGQWtpRl90eVFQOHM/view?usp=drivesdk
  19. Men were saved by faith in the OT. Galatians 3:6 KJV [6] Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Romans 4:1-5 KJV [1] What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? [2] For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. [3] For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. [4] Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. [5] But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. the sacrifices and rituals of the law never endowed salvation or justification. Salvation has Always been by faith alone and always will be.
  20. Bro Dave, respectfully, I think of all issues to be precise with language, the things of the Gospel and eternal life are most important. I cannot tell you how many people I have met who doubt their salvation, all because of well meaning preachers who were not precise and careful with what they said. I have made a few threads on this issue: https://onlinebaptist.com/forums/topic/27152-rethinking-evangelism/?tab=comments#comment-438652
  21. Well, Respectfully I do not think your position is in agreement with the word of God. the Apostle John clearly was writing his epistle to those who believed in Christ, so that they might know that they have eternal life. the word MAY in the Greek is in the subjunctive case, indicting possibility. Clearly it is possible for someone to trust in Christ but to face doubts about whether or not they know that they have eternal life. As to James 2:19, I see no connection between that and what we are talking about. Belief in God does not save anyone, not Jews, not Muslims, and not Americans. Most American's believe in God, but they don't trust in Christ. So I fail to see the connection here. It does not say "thou believest in Christ".. It's true that by trusting in Jesus Christ, his death, burial, and resurrection, that we can know that we have eternal life. But that only comes after someone understands the Gospel. But I have known plenty of good who have trusted in Christ and are plagued with Satanic attacks upon them that cause them sometimes to doubt their salvation. I disagree vehemently that just because someone has doubts about their salvation that they are not saved. Even Abraham faltered in his faith after God told him he was going to have son, we see that Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness, but we also see that he doubted God's promise, hence the incident with Hagar and Ishmael. As to the wino in the gutter proclaiming that he believes in Jesus, people can say whatever they want, obviously that doesn't mean they do. But just because some claim they believe in Jesus and don't, that does not negate the fact that all it takes for salvation is simple trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Th 5: 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, God is no telling the Thessalonians to get saved when he says to put on the helmet, which is the hope of salvation, he is encouraging them to keep trusting God, because they have believed the Gospel. I believe he is telling them the same thing the Apostle John has in 1 John 5:13. I believe the doctrine that if someone is not 100% sure of heaven that they are not saved is not a doctrine found in the word of God. I do believe however that it is the privilege of everyone who has trusted in Jesus Christ, to have assurance of eternal life, but just because they have the privilege does not mean they will understand and access that privilege. Now if they are trusting in Baptism, Church, good works, etc, then clearly they are not saved. But I know people who have trusted in the Gospel and have been plagued by Satan.
  22. Salvation is not asking God for forgivness. That is not really how you get forgiveness, before I became a born again Christian, I asked God to forgive me plenty of times, But i was NOT saved and forgiven until I put my trust in the Death, Burial, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Apologizing and telling God you are sorry does not grant forgiveness, Jesus Christ’s death on the cross does. Are you implying that if someone has any doubt about being saved that they aren’t? 2 Peter 1:9 KJV [9] But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 1 John 5:13 KJV [13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. seems from 1st John 5:13 that someone can believe and not KNOW for sure that they have eternal life. He says im writing to you who believe...that you MAY know...that you may believe.
  23. rabbit trail. Proverbs 24:16 cannot be divorced from vs 15 of the same chapter. I dont think it means what it is only preached or quoted to mean.
  24. Catholicism is not biblical. I encourage you to read the link Salyan posted from wayoflife.org
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